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The Pastor
18th April 2010, 16:22
Hi,

Im looking at doing as much gravel as possible between Auckland and warkworth (maybe extend it up to welsford)

attached is my path i've chosen from google earth.

Has anyone done this? Dose anyone know if the roads are locked?

Im wanting to know about the forestry road i start off with, is it open?

Any suggestions for some more gravel?

This ride will be finished off with a visit to the puhoi pub!

The Pastor
18th April 2010, 16:24
also any one know wtf is this? might have to check it out on the way back!

Magua
18th April 2010, 16:28
also any one know wtf is this? might have to check it out on the way back!

Looks like a wrecker's yard.

The Pastor
18th April 2010, 16:36
Looks like a wrecker's yard.

car grave yard more like it.

Crisis management
18th April 2010, 16:56
The route you have chosen is not ridable in a couple of places...Riverhead forest is private land, don't go in there, Waitemata motorcycle club has worked hard to retain access for off road events in the forest and we don't take kindly to people pissing the forestry owners off. Similarily the bit between Rainer road and Ahuroa valley road is farm land, as long as you gain permission first, no problem.

The surfaces up there are all hard packed and easy riding, my typical route is as follows:

NW motorway to SH16, Turn off after Riverhead (can't locate the name) onto Ararimu valley road to Bald hill road, Ireland road to Waitoki, same as parts of your route.
If you want a longer ride....
Waitoki road, Monowai road, left on Krippner road, left on Tahekeroa road, to Makarau, Wech access road to west coast road then woodcocks to Warkworth. There is no gravel on Kaipara flats road but if you need more do a loop around Kaipara hills road.
I never go to Warkworth usually turning down Ahuroa road off west coast road to Puhoi then back via Krippner or upper waiwera road.

Get hold of the AA maps of the area they are accurate and show both sealed and unsealed roads.

If you want company post the ride up on this forum and there are usually a few vagrants hanging around...

Maha
18th April 2010, 16:59
also any one know wtf is this? might have to check it out on the way back!

Thats looks like its on Krippner road, which comes out at Puhoi. Massive views from up there.

Devil
18th April 2010, 17:11
If you end up just north of Kaukapakapa on SH16, the turn off to the Mt Auckland walkway is Kaipara Hills road. Quite amusing stringing that one together with the roads listed above. Back through puhoi etc.

The Pastor
18th April 2010, 17:48
The route you have chosen is not ridable in a couple of places...Riverhead forest is private land, don't go in there, Waitemata motorcycle club has worked hard to retain access for off road events in the forest and we don't take kindly to people pissing the forestry owners off. Similarily the bit between Rainer road and Ahuroa valley road is farm land, as long as you gain permission first, no problem.

The surfaces up there are all hard packed and easy riding, my typical route is as follows:

NW motorway to SH16, Turn off after Riverhead (can't locate the name) onto Ararimu valley road to Bald hill road, Ireland road to Waitoki, same as parts of your route.
If you want a longer ride....
Waitoki road, Monowai road, left on Krippner road, left on Tahekeroa road, to Makarau, Wech access road to west coast road then woodcocks to Warkworth. There is no gravel on Kaipara flats road but if you need more do a loop around Kaipara hills road.
I never go to Warkworth usually turning down Ahuroa road off west coast road to Puhoi then back via Krippner or upper waiwera road.

Get hold of the AA maps of the area they are accurate and show both sealed and unsealed roads.

If you want company post the ride up on this forum and there are usually a few vagrants hanging around...

thanks for that, i've found a suitable bybass for the forestry bit, Ararimu valley road to Bald hill road.

That bit you said was farmers land - how would i get in contact with the owner?

Crisis management
18th April 2010, 18:48
That bit you said was farmers land - how would i get in contact with the owner?

Wander up there and start knocking on doors.....

There are a lot of what look like roads that are on private land, if you get access just remember you may need knobblies to actually cross that land!

johannvr
18th April 2010, 19:21
If you want company post the ride up on this forum and there are usually a few vagrants hanging around...

Yip, that is true. About time for another gander up north?

nallac
18th April 2010, 19:54
question..how do you open the kmz files?
want to haave a gander at the maps but can't open em.

The Pastor
18th April 2010, 20:02
question..how do you open the kmz files?
want to haave a gander at the maps but can't open em.

you open them with google earth

Crisis management
19th April 2010, 07:31
Yip, that is true. About time for another gander up north?

Hi Johann, you are probably right....I'm busy the next couple of weekends, after the king country ride I will post something up and we can bicker over where to go.

johannvr
19th April 2010, 09:52
Bicker? Us? Never! We don't do that, get lost, run outta fuel or anything such - our bickering is called constructive disagreement ... Would be good to have pretty much a final ride up north for me - moving to the land of Wellywood in July ...

Devil
19th April 2010, 10:01
I'm up for a ride, assuming it randomly falls on a free weekend (haven't seen many of those recently!).

Big Dave
19th April 2010, 10:36
It's all shit - you don't want to go there - head the other way. Terrible roads - way busy and heaps dangerous. South is your answer.

The Pastor
19th April 2010, 10:38
It's all shit - you don't want to go there - head the other way. Terrible roads - way busy and heaps dangerous. South is your answer.

dangerous is my middle name.

Big Dave
19th April 2010, 10:40
dangerous is my middle name.

No, feck off - I ride up that way.

The Pastor
19th April 2010, 10:47
No, feck off - I ride up that way.

wanna come with us on the ride? a few of the smcers might be coming!

Big Dave
19th April 2010, 12:21
wanna come with us on the ride? a few of the smcers might be coming!

Could do - at the moment I have supersports tyres on the tractor. Too soft and easily holed.
But I am in line for the Guzzi Stelvio soon.

When?

The Pastor
19th April 2010, 15:22
Could do - at the moment I have supersports tyres on the tractor. Too soft and easily holed.
But I am in line for the Guzzi Stelvio soon.

When?

it wont be for a few weeks yet, its going to be a pretty relaxed ride, im on a 145cc beast, and it might not be the smallest bike coming along.

Big Dave
19th April 2010, 16:13
it wont be for a few weeks yet, its going to be a pretty relaxed ride, im on a 145cc beast, and it might not be the smallest bike coming along.

I'll let you know what it was like.

The Pastor
19th April 2010, 16:20
I'll let you know what it was like.

Not sure i follow you, but cheers!

Big Dave
19th April 2010, 19:27
Not sure i follow you, but cheers!

'e used sarcasm - meaning - I'll be back home before you get to the start of the dirt.

I shall look forward to advice of the date.

Magua
20th April 2010, 15:55
If you end up just north of Kaukapakapa on SH16, the turn off to the Mt Auckland walkway is Kaipara Hills road. Quite amusing stringing that one together with the roads listed above. Back through puhoi etc.

Nice. I've often wondered if that road lead beyond the mountain.

The Pastor
20th April 2010, 19:02
'e used sarcasm - meaning - I'll be back home before you get to the start of the dirt.

I shall look forward to advice of the date.

9th may is the date!

Squiggles
3rd May 2010, 09:57
Anyone know what is between Hoteo and Wayby?


My Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Paremoremo+Rd&daddr=Ridge+Rd+to:Coatesville+Riverhead+Hwy+to:Ara rimu+Valley+Rd+to:Forestry+Rd+to:Waitoki+Rd+to:Har uru+Rd+to:Tahekeroa+Rd+to:Krippner+Rd+to:Krippner+ Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:West+ Coast+Rd+to:Old+Woodcocks+Rd+to:Kaipara+Flats+Rd+t o:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Tauhoa+R d+to:Wharehine+Rd+to:Journeys+End+to:Wharehine+Rd+ to:-36.283859,174.444695+to:Wellsford+Valley+Rd+to:Sch ool+Rd&geocode=FdQ9z_0duj9pCilHkvY5JjwNbTFr2X9cu04gSQ%3BF eUfz_0dwIhoCg%3BFYwLz_0dYv5nCg%3BFRAz0P0d11ZnCg%3B Fazq0P0d3pFnCg%3BFVN_0f0dpBFoCg%3BFbMi0v0daPpmCg%3 BFQGa0v0dm5tnCg%3BFWt10v0dwNVnCg%3BFW_U0v0d1BxpCg% 3BFTQr0_0df4VoCg%3BFVR-0_0dinhnCg%3BFfCO0_0dIEtnCg%3BFYzP0_0d2LBnCg%3BFQY-1P0dtG5nCg%3BFTR81P0dhl1nCg%3BFfov1P0dTxNnCg%3BFa4 U1P0d9SRnCg%3BFTbt1P0d_O1lCg%3BFYCS1f0dB4tlCg%3BFX nY1f0dyBljCg%3BFbk01v0dO4VlCg%3B%3BFWpv1v0dbEFmCg% 3BFWNS1v0dY_ZmCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=17,18&mrsp=22&sz=13&via=10,14,17,21&sll=-36.292437,174.464092&sspn=0.063507,0.110378&ie=UTF8&z=13)

Ixion
3rd May 2010, 10:05
Nothing. You can't get from Hoteo to Wayby by any public road. I've tried. It is very annoying. The only way is to ride along the railroad track. I've tried that too. Or find a friendly farmer I guess.

Maha
3rd May 2010, 10:09
Nothing. You can't get from Hoteo to Wayby by any public road. I've tried. It is very annoying. The only way is to ride along the railroad track. I've tried that too. Or find a friendly farmer I guess.

Its called Wayby Station rd.

Crisis management
3rd May 2010, 10:17
Its called Wayby Station rd.

It's even on the map.........now there's an idea, buy a map?

I highly recommend the AA maps.

The Pastor
3rd May 2010, 10:17
187 km – about 8 hours 55 mins??? lol

Maha
3rd May 2010, 10:22
Its after the Lookout, down on the flats, and before Port Albert rd (which is about 5K out of Wellsford on the left)
Waybe Station rd is on the right.

The Pastor
3rd May 2010, 10:34
Waybe Station rd is lame

Maha
3rd May 2010, 10:35
Waybe Station rd is lame

Its even boring in the Work Van.

Magua
3rd May 2010, 10:37
Been working on the route with Squiggles.

What do you think of this route North?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Paremoremo+Rd&daddr=Ridge+Rd+to:Coatesville+Riverhead+Hwy+to:Ara rimu+Valley+Rd+to:Forestry+Rd+to:Waitoki+Rd+to:Har uru+Rd+to:Tahekeroa+Rd+to:Krippner+Rd+to:Krippner+ Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:West+ Coast+Rd+to:Old+Woodcocks+Rd+to:Kaipara+Flats+Rd+t o:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Tauhoa+R d+to:Wharehine+Rd+to:Journeys+End+to:Wharehine+Rd+ to:-36.283859,174.444695+to:Wellsford+Valley+Rd+to:Sch ool+Rd&geocode=FdQ9z_0duj9pCilHkvY5JjwNbTFr2X9cu04gSQ;FeU fz_0dwIhoCg;FYwLz_0dYv5nCg;FRAz0P0d11ZnCg;Fazq0P0d 3pFnCg;FVN_0f0dpBFoCg;FbMi0v0daPpmCg;FQGa0v0dm5tnC g;FWt10v0dwNVnCg;FW_U0v0d1BxpCg;FTQr0_0df4VoCg;FVR-0_0dinhnCg;FfCO0_0dIEtnCg;FYzP0_0d2LBnCg;FQY-1P0dtG5nCg;FTR81P0dhl1nCg;Ffov1P0dTxNnCg;Fa4U1P0d9 SRnCg;FTbt1P0d_O1lCg;FYCS1f0dB4tlCg;FXnY1f0dyBljCg ;Fbk01v0dO4VlCg;;FWpv1v0dbEFmCg;FWNS1v0dY_ZmCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=17,18&mrsp=22&sz=13&via=10,14,17,21&sll=-36.292437,174.464092&sspn=0.063507,0.110378&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.304059,174.537392&spn=0.218023,0.308647&t=h&z=12&dirflg=d

And this route south?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Port+Albert+Rd&daddr=Tauhoa+Rd+to:kaipara+flats+to:woodcocks+to:a huroa+to:puhoi&geocode=FUgg1v0d3PNmCg;FQzK1P0d7PlmCg;FTV81P0dil1n CimFQAkwPOEMbTEBW7279wA5kg;FQDS0_0dDrZnCikzHbjdU-AMbTFngroKPK_Pfw;FXNq0_0dRIFnCinJaGJAzR8NbTG5Ts_2P K6dQA;&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=-36.516052,174.664249&sspn=0.054357,0.077162&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.437304,174.482803&spn=0.4353,0.617294&t=h&z=11&dirflg=d

The Pastor
3rd May 2010, 10:43
Been working on the route with Squiggles.

What do you think of this route North?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Paremoremo+Rd&daddr=Ridge+Rd+to:Coatesville+Riverhead+Hwy+to:Ara rimu+Valley+Rd+to:Forestry+Rd+to:Waitoki+Rd+to:Har uru+Rd+to:Tahekeroa+Rd+to:Krippner+Rd+to:Krippner+ Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:Ahuroa+Rd+to:West+ Coast+Rd+to:Old+Woodcocks+Rd+to:Kaipara+Flats+Rd+t o:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Kaipara+Hills+Rd+to:Tauhoa+R d+to:Wharehine+Rd+to:Journeys+End+to:Wharehine+Rd+ to:-36.283859,174.444695+to:Wellsford+Valley+Rd+to:Sch ool+Rd&geocode=FdQ9z_0duj9pCilHkvY5JjwNbTFr2X9cu04gSQ;FeU fz_0dwIhoCg;FYwLz_0dYv5nCg;FRAz0P0d11ZnCg;Fazq0P0d 3pFnCg;FVN_0f0dpBFoCg;FbMi0v0daPpmCg;FQGa0v0dm5tnC g;FWt10v0dwNVnCg;FW_U0v0d1BxpCg;FTQr0_0df4VoCg;FVR-0_0dinhnCg;FfCO0_0dIEtnCg;FYzP0_0d2LBnCg;FQY-1P0dtG5nCg;FTR81P0dhl1nCg;Ffov1P0dTxNnCg;Fa4U1P0d9 SRnCg;FTbt1P0d_O1lCg;FYCS1f0dB4tlCg;FXnY1f0dyBljCg ;Fbk01v0dO4VlCg;;FWpv1v0dbEFmCg;FWNS1v0dY_ZmCg&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=17,18&mrsp=22&sz=13&via=10,14,17,21&sll=-36.292437,174.464092&sspn=0.063507,0.110378&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.304059,174.537392&spn=0.218023,0.308647&t=h&z=12&dirflg=d

And this route south?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Port+Albert+Rd&daddr=Tauhoa+Rd+to:kaipara+flats+to:woodcocks+to:a huroa+to:puhoi&geocode=FUgg1v0d3PNmCg;FQzK1P0d7PlmCg;FTV81P0dil1n CimFQAkwPOEMbTEBW7279wA5kg;FQDS0_0dDrZnCikzHbjdU-AMbTFngroKPK_Pfw;FXNq0_0dRIFnCinJaGJAzR8NbTG5Ts_2P K6dQA;&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=-36.516052,174.664249&sspn=0.054357,0.077162&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.437304,174.482803&spn=0.4353,0.617294&t=h&z=11&dirflg=d

I like this alot,

North - cut out parememoraoaoaoaoaoa prison road, meet at westgate - its easy for everyone, there is petrol and you don't miss out much. but its moot.

South looks sweet as bro, we have to go to owera subway on the way back for COOKIE PIE!

Squiggles
3rd May 2010, 10:45
Its called Wayby Station rd.

Nar, i mean Hoteo on Tauhoa Rd


Nothing. You can't get from Hoteo to Wayby by any public road. I've tried. It is very annoying. The only way is to ride along the railroad track. I've tried that too. Or find a friendly farmer I guess.

Wass the traintrack like? What about the bridges?

The Pastor
3rd May 2010, 10:46
I did most of the route out to workworth on Saturday, there is a lot of seal roads unfortunately.

Magua
3rd May 2010, 10:48
So start at Westgate, sh16, Coatesville-Riverhead Highway and then back onto the marked route via Deacon Rd?

Ixion
3rd May 2010, 11:36
It's even on the map.........now there's an idea, buy a map?

I highly recommend the AA maps.

Wayby Station Rd runs from Hoteo NORTH to Wayby. Not from Hoteo to Wayby. two different places.

Hoteo Station rd (which is at Hoteo not Hoteo North) sets off in the right direction, and I reckon once upon a time probably did connect the two palces. But now ift dead ends after a few hundred metres.

Going by the railway track you need to ride between the tracks. That's rideable , but bumpy. Ony problem is if you encounter a train!

The Pastor
3rd May 2010, 13:31
So start at Westgate, sh16, Coatesville-Riverhead Highway and then back onto the marked route via Deacon Rd?

that would be my sugesstion, westgage is a really good meeting place

Big Dave
6th May 2010, 09:27
I'm out. I have a ZX14 tester. - Stelvio went back and my Buell has 'suitable for track day' tyres fitted.

I did most of the roads - and a lot more on Sunday on the Guzzi. All in pretty good order.

The Pastor
6th May 2010, 09:43
Test out the zx14 on gravel ya big jessie,

ride is on at 12pm lunchtime sunday 9th may, thats this sunday meeting at shell westgate, its on rain or shine

Big Dave
6th May 2010, 12:31
Always use the right tool for the job, Tim.

The Pastor
6th May 2010, 12:46
always use the right tool for the job, tim.

well if you want we could swap bikes for the ride, im on a 1988 gl145, the 145 stands for whorepower

Big Dave
6th May 2010, 20:10
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The Pastor
6th May 2010, 20:35
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must suck having to ride so slow, being scared all the time you're going to bin it!

Big Dave
6th May 2010, 20:40
Selectively edited video - I'm smarter than Carver.

You take it easy on that Kipner rd too - Farmer Brown and his 4WD leave nowhere to go.