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adiddy
10th December 2006, 17:31
if looking at my bike from the left hand side into the left fairing i see a hose that comes out of the engine.. now if tthe ring things u tighten are loose will my bike heat up if water escapes?!

there is like a hardened material in blue circle which at the tiop is joined by a rubber pipe conenction which then goes to another hardened material

my bike takes about 30 minutes to overheat when riding at 100kmp/hr or an hour at 5--60 kmp/hr

trying to use the sensible method of elimination to fix this problem

adiddy

MSTRS
10th December 2006, 17:46
Yes. Watercooled engines need water/anti-freeze mixture in sufficient quantities and under the designed pressure to cool as intended. If water is escaping, then 1/. the pressure will be down (water boils at 100c, but the boiling point rises as pressure is increased) and 2/. without enough liquid, the remainder is insufficient to keep up with the engine's heat generation

adiddy
10th December 2006, 20:45
so if i replace that hose it may help?

Disco Dan
10th December 2006, 20:48
well you need to find the leak first...

strip the back down enough so you can see all the coolant pipe work near where the leak is... run the bike and look for your leak..

If it's leaking from the end of one of the pipes, draining the coolant and removing the pipe, cleaning it up a bit and reataching it may work.

Dont use those additive things from repco that 'fix leaks' by pouring them in.. not a good idea.. Used to put that in my cage, (the mini) and it reacts with air... turn the engine off and leave it sitting for a week... you will stuff the coolant system up... it will set, congel and clog up everything... nasty stuff.

Find the cause and fix it!

WINJA
10th December 2006, 20:59
if looking at my bike from the left hand side into the left fairing i see a hose that comes out of the engine.. now if tthe ring things u tighten are loose will my bike heat up if water escapes?!

there is like a hardened material in blue circle which at the tiop is joined by a rubber pipe conenction which then goes to another hardened material

my bike takes about 30 minutes to overheat when riding at 100kmp/hr or an hour at 5--60 kmp/hr

trying to use the sensible method of elimination to fix this problem

adiddy

ARE YOU SLIGHTLY RETARDED?

adiddy
10th December 2006, 21:18
why do u say that Winja??
im simply trying to fix this problem without spending millions of dollars or writing my bike off!
thats a smart idea in itself aint it?

ok disco dan , thats a good idea however it only does it when im riding at 100 kmp/hr its very ahrd to look between the fairings a?!

adiddy
18th December 2006, 18:10
help, who in auckland would be able to help me fix this problem???

Panther
18th December 2006, 18:39
me, im the man
hurry up and fix your bike so we can go for a blat

adiddy
18th December 2006, 18:54
lol, ok sallo u wanna help me fix ma bike aye?

twinkle
18th December 2006, 18:56
that pipe in the blue circle is a steel pipe sealed with a rubber O ring at each end. The water pump is at the bottom of it, water goes up through it into the block and then out the head. Attached to the head is another pipe going into the thermostat and then another pipe going to the radiator.

Take the fuel tank off and check all the hose clamps are tight first, if it isn't those then it's probably one of the O rings. (this is if it's leaking coolant)

Here's the parts diagram, hopefully you can make some sense of it.

adiddy
18th December 2006, 19:02
that pipe in the blue circle is a steel pipe sealed with a rubber O ring at each end. The water pump is at the bottom of it, water goes up through it into the block and then out the head. Attached to the head is another pipe going into the thermostat and then another pipe going to the radiator.

Take the fuel tank off and check all the hose clamps are tight first, if it isn't those then it's probably one of the O rings. (this is if it's leaking coolant)

Here's the parts diagram, hopefully you can make some sense of it.

cheers twinkle, this is a fair bit of work is it???

SuperDave
18th December 2006, 19:11
Have you ever drained the coolant and replaced it with fresh stuff since owning the bike?

twinkle
18th December 2006, 19:21
maybe 10 minutes to take the fairings and fuel tank off (if you know what you're doing), then you're just trying to find the leaks. The O rings, hose clamps and hoses are a piece of cake to replace.

remember to drain the water out of the radiator if you start taking pipes and bits out. the drain plug is the middle bolt in the water pump (i.e. not one of the bolts around the edges).

adiddy
18th December 2006, 19:42
Have you ever drained the coolant and replaced it with fresh stuff since owning the bike?

thanks twinkle, will attempt mauybe saturday?!

yes dave , i got it serviced bout 500kms ago and they did all that for me and they said they fixed the problem , they thought it was the radiator cap but no problem was not solved aye

SuperDave
18th December 2006, 20:23
thanks twinkle, will attempt mauybe saturday?!

yes dave , i got it serviced bout 500kms ago and they did all that for me and they said they fixed the problem , they thought it was the radiator cap but no problem was not solved aye

Well in that case I'd take it back to them and complain - they said they'd fixed the problem which they obviously have not if your bike's still overheating. They must sort it out. Go in and be firm, not rude and it should go your way.

adiddy
18th December 2006, 20:30
Well in that case I'd take it back to them and complain - they said they'd fixed the problem which they obviously have not if your bike's still overheating. They must sort it out. Go in and be firm, not rude and it should go your way.

but what if it was quite a while ago , say two months?

Satch
18th December 2006, 22:12
Do your fan's come on when it gets hot? is your radiator full and the overflow container at about half full?

if the fans dont come on you may have more than one problem

if there isnt enought liquid in the beast it will def cook up

if i was in town id sort it out for ya

soundbeltfarm
18th December 2006, 22:20
i dont know shithouse about cooling on bikes , but could it also be a blockage in the radiator or lines or somewhere which as the bike gets worked and needs more cooling it cant get enough coolant running through.
does the bike gradually get hotter?
what about if you drop gears and rev more does it get hotter or cooler?
you prob need temp guage to tell.
our ute done a simialr thing recently. gradually got hotter and when i dropped a gear and it got more revs it actually cooled down.
changed radiator and it sweet as now.
was all rotted out the old one.

twinkle
19th December 2006, 07:56
If I'm still in auckland on saturday I can give you a hand, or I'll be back sometime the end of next week if you haven't got it sorted out by then :yes:

adiddy
19th December 2006, 17:37
ok kewl thanks guys..

it will be fine , sitting at about 1/4 on the temp gauge ... then after maybe half an hours riding itl jump up to 1/2 way and then vary between half and almost red till i pull over as it get s hot ( very very close to the red part/ on the border)
i wait a while then it will be fine then itl heat up again etc

adiddy
19th December 2006, 17:38
Do your fan's come on when it gets hot? is your radiator full and the overflow container at about half full?

if the fans dont come on you may have more than one problem

if there isnt enought liquid in the beast it will def cook up

if i was in town id sort it out for ya

yup fan does come on, yes the correct amount of liquid, what if overflow is almost 6/8s full ?? will that bring problem

twinkle
19th December 2006, 17:58
maybe the thermostat isn't opening up fully, heat gradually builds up?

adiddy
19th December 2006, 20:25
could be , i have the fan hardwired now ... i turn it on and off befopre/after each ride

Bonez
30th December 2006, 15:47
Check to make sure the catch tank and the tube from the catch tank aren't gunked up. As well as the overflow tube from the catch thank.

adiddy
7th January 2007, 16:46
thanks guys. i am still having trouble with it aye

MSTRS
7th January 2007, 17:05
Sounds to me like you'd best be taking your bike, manual and some dosh to a radiator specialist. They can pressure test the system to check for leaks, back-flush to remove any buildup of sludge, check the thermostat, ensure the correct amount of anti-freeze is in there....get the picture?

Sketchy_Racer
7th January 2007, 18:25
You may have the same issue that i had.

My bike would keep over heating, and i couldnt figure out why. It had been sitting for a good time, and all the radiotor cores had blocked up, except 2

I had the same symptoms as you. So, take your rad to a rad repair shop, and see what they tell you.

Ps, it happened on the same bike as yours

adiddy
8th January 2007, 23:17
i had it pressure tested mstrs they rekon tis fine and it was the radiator cap.... that was 2 months ago, i stayed off the bike to study for exams ...
rg100 thank you will endeavour to get that done asap