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TLMAN
9th July 2007, 18:30
Need clutch replacement on 97 TL1000.

Can anyone help? Bit of cash on the side for someone?

PM me if can help or know of anyone.

slopster
9th July 2007, 19:36
Where are you in Auckland? Clutch is a reasonably easy job. A clutch holder tool makes the job easier. Usually only the friction plates need replaceing sometimes the steel plates do as well.

TLMAN
9th July 2007, 19:44
Where are you in Auckland? Clutch is a reasonably easy job. A clutch holder tool makes the job easier. Usually only the friction plates need replaceing sometimes the steel plates do as well.

Im on the Shore. I dont have any tools.
I spoke to a mechanic (no names mentioned) who rekons about $1000 worst case scenario, but he wont know until he opens her up. It could be that the engine has been laboured most of its life and the plates have vibrated themselves out of alignment or the whole thing could be fkd.

cowpoos
9th July 2007, 20:06
Im on the Shore. I dont have any tools.
I spoke to a mechanic (no names mentioned) who rekons about $1000 worst case scenario, but he wont know until he opens her up. It could be that the engine has been laboured most of its life and the plates have vibrated themselves out of alignment or the whole thing could be fkd.
WTF!! sounds like a interesting assesment from a mechanic.... tell ya what I'll get someone to PM ya and sort you out... :)

TLMAN
9th July 2007, 20:12
WTF!! sounds like a interesting assesment from a mechanic.... tell ya what I'll get someone to PM ya and sort you out... :)

Cool thanks. I know about the same of engines as I do of women. Fk all.

cowpoos
9th July 2007, 20:17
Cool thanks. I know about the same of engines as I do of women. Fk all.
he might beable to help you with that too...hmm...maybe...

Unit
9th July 2007, 20:25
Im on the Shore. I dont have any tools.
I spoke to a mechanic (no names mentioned) who rekons about $1000 worst case scenario, but he wont know until he opens her up. It could be that the engine has been laboured most of its life and the plates have vibrated themselves out of alignment or the whole thing could be fkd.
And who the hell in their right mind labours a TL for goodness sake! There are plenty of passionate TL lovers on the site, Im sure people will be able to help. Best of luck getting it sorted:yes:

TLMAN
9th July 2007, 20:25
he might beable to help you with that too...hmm...maybe...

Hahaha, I didnt know Dr Phil was a bike mechanic too!!

HDTboy
9th July 2007, 21:52
Bring it round on Saturday. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1101329#post1101329)

TLDV8
9th July 2007, 22:56
What is the actual problem ?

TLMAN
9th July 2007, 23:02
What is the actual problem ?

When I give it a fistfull it jumps from 4000rpm to 10000rpm with no speed or power increase.

TLDV8
9th July 2007, 23:16
It sounds like the plates but the 97/98 5 spring clutch can do with a set of Barnett springs.
The cam set may be worn also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/OneC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/TwoC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/ThreeC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FourC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FiveC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/SixC.jpg

Here is my latest TL mod,a 2006 GSXR1000 clutch adapted to a TL drive gear.I could probably take a look at the clutch in your bike.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/Clutch/s7.jpg>

cowpoos
9th July 2007, 23:20
It sounds like the plates but the 97/98 5 spring clutch can do with a set of Barnett springs.
The cam set may be worn also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/OneC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/TwoC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/ThreeC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FourC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FiveC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/SixC.jpg

Here is my latest TL mod,a 2006 GSXR1000 clutch adapted to a TL drive gear.I could probably take a look at the clutch in your bike.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/DSC06450Small-1.jpg>
or someone fulled it with full synthetic oil..which is most likely!!!

TLMAN
9th July 2007, 23:21
It sounds like the plates but the 97/98 5 spring clutch can do with a set of Barnett springs.
The cam set may be worn also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/OneC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/TwoC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/ThreeC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FourC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FiveC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/SixC.jpg

Here is my latest TL mod,a 2006 GSXR1000 clutch adapted to a TL drive gear.I could probably take a look at the clutch in your bike.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/DSC06450Small-1.jpg>



Cool thanks pics saved. Reminds me of when i go under the covers after a few bourbons though!! What do I do next??

TLDV8
9th July 2007, 23:26
Cool thanks pics saved. Reminds me of when i go under the covers after a few bourbons though!! What do I do next??

All you need to do to access the clutch is.

Put the bike on the side stand (so it is leaning to the left) A container underneath does not hurt but no oil should come out.
Remove the clutch cover bolts with a 8mm socket.
Remove the clutch spring bolts and then the pressure plate.(10mm socket)
You now have access to the clutch plates.

saul
9th July 2007, 23:26
It sounds like the plates but the 97/98 5 spring clutch can do with a set of Barnett springs.
The cam set may be worn also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/OneC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/TwoC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/ThreeC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FourC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/FiveC.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/SixC.jpg

Here is my latest TL mod,a 2006 GSXR1000 clutch adapted to a TL drive gear.I could probably take a look at the clutch in your bike.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/Clutch/s7.jpg>


There is no doubt Les you are a legend.:yes:

I did the springs on mine and adjusted the aducator (oops) thing correctly = sorted.

Very easy to do:yes:

TLDV8
9th July 2007, 23:40
Got your PM.

If you are going to remove the centre nut don't use a rattle gun,use a TL clutch locking tool.
Know what to look for on the cam dogs,once they are worn the clutch will start to slip on acceleration continuous (unlike the normal slip and grab)
Check the five spring towers while there,they can come loose.
New frictions,soak them over night,before installation.
The 97 TLS has a small section O-ring in the sidecover and groove to match,they are leakers and worse if the bolts have been over tightened pulling the guts out of the cover which is plastic.
The 98 TLS got the TLR cover with a bigger section O-Ring,which is a little better.
The cover bolts go to 7 ft/lbs,the clutch springs to 8 ft/lbs,the clutch nut to 72.5 ft/lbs,the spring towers with green loctite to 8 ft/lbs.

You will soon see when you remove the plates.

TLDV8
9th July 2007, 23:47
There is no doubt Les you are a legend.:yes:

I did the springs on mine and adjusted the aducator (oops) thing correctly = sorted.

Very easy to do:yes:

Good to hear from you, Glen :niceone:...Excellent point with the activator.The clearance is important for sure.
Before going to the TLR clutch, i was lucky enough to fix the slipping with a set of springs also.

Robert Taylor
10th July 2007, 00:15
Need clutch replacement on 97 TL1000.

Can anyone help? Bit of cash on the side for someone?

PM me if can help or know of anyone.

Other advice that has been submitted is sound, do indeed check the back torque limiter ( cam set ) as they are prone to wear and in turn will accelearte the demise of the plates themselves. And this clutch system does not like synthetic oil. In perspective the bike is 10 years old so you will have such wear issues

Squiggles
10th July 2007, 13:43
$1000 :shit:

Have got a tl now and the guy did the clutch prior to me getting her, have a $300 reciept for all the plates, HD springs and "Clutch kit"

TLMAN
10th July 2007, 14:09
$1000 :shit:

Have got a tl now and the guy did the clutch prior to me getting her, have a $300 reciept for all the plates, HD springs and "Clutch kit"


Yeah im hoping that will only be the case with mine, I have sourced a set of plates and springs through Cycletreads, and with the assistance of a very helpful KB member I should have it sorted next week.
The $1000 was if the casing that the plates go into or something needed replacing, which could only be determined once it was opened up.
Fingers crossed.

phyx1u5
20th July 2007, 16:24
Im new to bikes so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can you tell externally without opening the bike up that its stuffed?
cheers

avgas
20th July 2007, 16:34
Clean all the plates with mineral turps (? or something from a similar bottle). and remove any contaminats. then put back in a run a diesel oil for about 100ks'. If the clutch still slips then a new one should be less than a grand...surely

avgas
20th July 2007, 16:40
Im new to bikes so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can you tell externally without opening the bike up that its stuffed?
cheers
Either, is chunky when it changes gears, its grabs too much or slips too much.
Classic i had was the bike was doing 13,000rpm in top gear and barely making 70kph (instead of 220+), also if the revs change like its out of gear....while its in gear.

TLMAN
20th July 2007, 16:48
Im new to bikes so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can you tell externally without opening the bike up that its stuffed?
cheers


When you give it a fistful of throttle it goes from 4000 to 12000 rpm without or with little power/speed increase.

TLMAN
20th July 2007, 16:51
Clean all the plates with mineral turps (? or something from a similar bottle). and remove any contaminats. then put back in a run a diesel oil for about 100ks'. If the clutch still slips then a new one should be less than a grand...surely


Thanks for comment AVGAS.
With the assitance and expertise of a top KB member I had the clutch plates and springs changed about 2 weeks ago. It is an absolutely different bike now with a massive power increase, and the great thing is that it only cost $200 bucks all up.

98tls
20th July 2007, 19:29
What a difference a clutch makes eh............

saul
20th July 2007, 19:47
Thanks for comment AVGAS.
With the assitance and expertise of a top KB member I had the clutch plates and springs changed about 2 weeks ago. It is an absolutely different bike now with a massive power increase, and the great thing is that it only cost $200 bucks all up.

Awesome :sunny::yes: