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badassbandit
1st October 2007, 17:34
Today leaving uni i went 2 get my bike down the back of the gym and see this crazy old guy ripping into the dude on the new blue vtr about this area being a pedestrian only area or sum sht anyway so afta the vtr guy left this other guy on his cbr which he dropped on sunday at the agm came round the corner and also took an earfull i was just standing having a chuckle at the old nutter.he was really getting stuck into him calling him stupid and a dick and then followed the cbr guy to make sure he left through the back enterance by this time a good crowd had gatherd so i left the old guy a nice dirty patch on the ground and bailed while he had his back turned. does anyone kno whether the old guy can kick us out in the wet?

Macstar
1st October 2007, 17:37
He sounds like the kind of guy that would see a complaint through and do his best to get the UOA authorities on to you guys... Better take him out before he squeals, SMC-Mob style!

bomma
1st October 2007, 17:41
we'll get kim's triad contacts to "take care of him" :ar15:

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 18:10
I'm going to stand up and say that it iss getting excessive around the back there, and we will be rightfully kicked out if the peds have to make their way around us (this is happening particularly right outside the entrance to the locker area, keep clear of the doorway by a good metre guys)

There is undercover parking on the otherside of the parking area (by where you can come down from the science building) which is alot less used and alot more out of the way


that said, what a dick for his handling of his issues with it...

klyong82
1st October 2007, 18:20
we'll get kim's triad contacts to "take care of him" :ar15:

What triad? I dont know what you talking about. I only resort to diplomatic actions.:innocent: we need our funding so you guys can build a nice shade for SMC bikes. oh Squiggles got anymore sausages? i'm hungry

bomma
1st October 2007, 18:26
What triad? I dont know what you talking about. I only resort to diplomatic actions.:innocent:

oh yea.....what triad.......:whistle: dont worry kim your secret's safe with me ;)

Filterer
1st October 2007, 19:00
I'm going to stand up and say that it is getting excessive around the back there


x2..........

klyong82
1st October 2007, 19:42
:gob: i wonder what all you boys are doing at the back there. You all better come clean or out of the closet haha :rolleyes:

scumdog
1st October 2007, 21:45
Today leaving uni i went 2 get my bike down the back of the gym and see this crazy old guy ripping into the dude on the new blue vtr about this area being a pedestrian only area or sum sht anyway so afta the vtr guy left this other guy on his cbr which he dropped on sunday at the agm came round the corner and also took an earfull i was just standing having a chuckle at the old nutter.he was really getting stuck into him calling him stupid and a dick and then followed the cbr guy to make sure he left through the back enterance by this time a good crowd had gatherd so i left the old guy a nice dirty patch on the ground and bailed while he had his back turned. does anyone kno whether the old guy can kick us out in the wet?

Don't know.

But he might be able to teach you some punctuation and grammar so I might be more inclined to read you above post - and maybe offer some relevant advice.

twinkle
1st October 2007, 21:48
some genius parked his yellow hyosung in the middle of the walkway to the left of the lockers (coming out) today :bash:
I was pretty tempted to dump the thing in the garden.

bomma
1st October 2007, 21:54
I'm going to stand up and say that it iss getting excessive around the back there, and we will be rightfully kicked out if the peds have to make their way around us (this is happening particularly right outside the entrance to the locker area, keep clear of the doorway by a good metre guys)

although i park right by the locker doors i agree...this might sound unfair but i reckon that spot should be exclusively for bigger/more expensive bikes....bikes that look like they would be stolen.....

i dnt understand y there are 2 street magics a couple of scooters etc parked back there....and those pricks are taking up a dickload of space....i mean y not just pick up the street magic n stick it is a space that a bigger bike cudnt use?!?!?! :mad:

also im pretty sure that we are fine parking there....the custodians walk past there all the time and theyre fine with us parking there....

i also get pretty peeved when people, who have nothing to do but complain, give others stick for nothing!!!! just move your old shrivelled arse over old man or you might get run over......

those guys shudda just started revving their engines when he started talking shit :lol: thats what i wudda done before i burnt off and left him with a face fulla CO :spanking:

Macstar
1st October 2007, 22:35
Don't know.

But he might be able to teach you some punctuation and grammar so I might be more inclined to read you above post - and maybe offer some relevant advice.

Uh oh spaghettio: I think you meant "read your above post", not "you above post". Punctuation and grammar, what a bitch eh...?!

I do agree though that the writing skills of many UOA students' is pretty shocking, (2 years of tutoring at the place). And I am not perfect either: Did I get the apostrophe in the right place?

bomma
1st October 2007, 22:51
Uh oh spaghettio: I think you meant "read your above post", not "you above post". Punctuation and grammar, what a bitch eh...?!

I do agree though that the writing skills of many UOA students' is pretty shocking, (2 years of tutoring at the place). And I am not perfect either: Did I get the apostrophe in the right place?

lol keep fanning those flames isaac

and one day :ar15:

its beacause thy donot realli emphasies the importince of the grammer and splelling. oh and becoz we now haf the mirakles of speel chek....now whers that speell check buttin??

Macstar
1st October 2007, 23:00
Good 'ol spell checkers.

Oh yeah, and sorry off topic: Nish just read Oct 07 issue of NZ Business mag, several good articles on NZ entrepreneurs that could be used in your essay.

xwhatsit
1st October 2007, 23:01
Nah, fuck 'em. If they complain, we'll just complain right back to them that if they remove parking spaces (and good, safe ones at that -- Alfred St), then why are they surprised when we start parking all over campus?

This is exactly what people said when they ripped out Alfred St. I'm sorry, but they're going to have to accommodate us.

@Bomma: `Exclusively for bigger/more expensive bikes' -- you cheeky little shit! I'll have you know I'm required to park there, in case I need to bump start the RS :lol:

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 23:08
although i park right by the locker doors i agree...this might sound unfair but i reckon that spot should be exclusively for bigger/more expensive bikes....bikes that look like they would be stolen.....

i dnt understand y there are 2 street magics a couple of scooters etc parked back there....and those pricks are taking up a dickload of space....i mean y not just pick up the street magic n stick it is a space that a bigger bike cudnt use?!?!?! :mad:

also im pretty sure that we are fine parking there....the custodians walk past there all the time and theyre fine with us parking there....
those guys shudda just started revving their engines when he started talking shit :lol: thats what i wudda done before i burnt off and left him with a face fulla CO :spanking:

a bit of diplomacy wouldnt go amiss, it is not our "right" to park there, and we get away with it because of the goodwill of those who work in the gym and the custodians, we should do our best not to get in the way or annoy others, for everyones sake.

Perhaps if we could go back to how the parking used to be back there, staying away from the door spot, and down alongside the gym at the carpark end more, we were alot more out of the way there. Security is better there too if you look at it from the pov that there is a rail there to lock it to. Also wont get drunks/dicks screwing with your bike when they come down from shads, or just people bumping them as they try to squeeze by.

Only 5 bikes parked over on the sci side when i left @ 12 today (including me), can fit at least 8-9 infront of the cars and more by the wall (where the cbr600 parks), walk that extra 20metres.

bomma
1st October 2007, 23:09
Oh yeah, and sorry off topic: Nish just read Oct 07 issue of NZ Business mag, several good articles on NZ entrepreneurs that could be used in your essay.

cheers man but im gonna go with the "creativity is all an entrepreneur needs" topic....in retrospect it wudda been a sheetload easier to just research one successful entrepreneur and write an essay on what characteristics got him the success :P


@Bomma: `Exclusively for bigger/more expensive bikes' -- you cheeky little shit! I'll have you know I'm required to park there, in case I need to bump start the RS :lol:

:lol: think about it this way...if you parked on symonds st then you wudnt even need to take a run up...the natural slope would do all the work for u :D

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 23:12
Nah, fuck 'em. If they complain, we'll just complain right back to them that if they remove parking spaces (and good, safe ones at that -- Alfred St), then why are they surprised when we start parking all over campus?

This is exactly what people said when they ripped out Alfred St. I'm sorry, but they're going to have to accommodate us.

@Bomma: `Exclusively for bigger/more expensive bikes' -- you cheeky little shit! I'll have you know I'm required to park there, in case I need to bump start the RS :lol:

as said in my post above, there is room back there, lets use it so as not to cause a problem with foot traffic

bomma
1st October 2007, 23:14
a bit of diplomacy wouldnt go amiss, it is not our "right" to park there, and we get away with it because of the goodwill of those who work in the gym and the custodians, we should do our best not to get in the way or annoy others, for everyones sake.

Perhaps if we could go back to how the parking used to be back there, staying away from the door spot, and down alongside the gym at the carpark end more, we were alot more out of the way there. Security is better there too if you look at it from the pov that there is a rail there to lock it to. Also wont get drunks/dicks screwing with your bike when they come down from shads, or just people bumping them as they try to squeeze by.

Only 5 bikes parked over on the sci side when i left @ 12 today (including me), can fit at least 8-9 infront of the cars and more by the wall (where the cbr600 parks), walk that extra 20metres.

i refer you to the post by tom cornall (xerxesdaphat)....diplomacy can kiss my ass!! i haf no tolerance for pedestrians who point the finger at cyclists and bikers etc who use the pavement and other surrounding areas, but wont make the effort to walk that 20m down the road to the bloody pedestrian crossing....GET OFF THE FUCKING ROAD AND ILL GET OFF THE FUCKING FOOTPATH!!

sorry about my forwardness and steve this is by no means an attack at you mate, but just thinkin of the number of times ive had to swerve because some idiot jumps out onto the road without looking...and then some ol codger comes about thinkin he owns the footpath!! ITS CALLED A PUBLIC FOOTPATH FOR A REASON!!!

man sleep deprivation has really taken its toll on my mood :P

EDIT: Parking on the footpath and private areas where we have been given consent isnt illegal....j walking is.....

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 23:24
today i watched the r1 get bumped into as people tried to squeeze through the doorway after a lecture....

remember nish, you're foot traffic too once you're off the bike, do you use the underpass to cross symonds? :P


the issue here is not whose footpath it is (as pointed out in my first post, this particular person who vented could have done approached the situation in a far better manner). But does highlight the case that we must collectively show a wee bit more consideration in our parking back there, giving reasonable access to the doorway in particular.

Macstar
1st October 2007, 23:31
You been on the 'ol peace pipe Stevo? I reckon these guys (Nish) are just pissed off with their uni workloads and consequential lack of ride time.

I am impressed with your diplomacy though, you should be a UN negotiator...

bomma
1st October 2007, 23:36
today i watched the r1 get bumped into as people tried to squeeze through the doorway after a lecture....

which again brings me back to the point of why the hell there are scooters and street magics parked back there.....when we first parked there it was semi empty and we all parked behind the gym...admittedly it has gotten busier so we have to park where we can....


remember nish, you're foot traffic too once you're off the bike, do you use the underpass to cross symonds? :P

no but i look before i cross which is more than i can say for a lot of other peds....also i dont yell at cyclists and bikers for nothing.....



the issue here is not whose footpath it is (as pointed out in my first post, this particular person who vented could have done approached the situation in a far better manner). But does highlight the case that we must collectively show a wee bit more consideration in our parking back there, giving reasonable access to the doorway in particular.

agreed, and reading james' post bout the yellow hobag....that kinda shit does not represent the population.....and going back to your first point in this post, i park my bike in places that i dont percieve to be bottlenecks....pedestrians in general are assholes

bomma
1st October 2007, 23:39
You been on the 'ol peace pipe Stevo?

man peace pipe sounds good rite now (whers the blazed emoticon?? :blazed:)


I reckon these guys (Nish) are just pissed off with their uni workloads and consequential lack of ride time

agreed!! but i still dont like peds:mad:.......bunch of dumass pricks!!! :Pokey: i refer you to the girl who got hit by a car as she stepped out onto the road while texting.....not the first and, by no means, not the last :spanking:

Bigsexy
1st October 2007, 23:39
Hahaha, by the sounds of it the old guy was a loony. whenever I rock up to a mall I try and park on the footpath, but out of the way, like by a rubbish bin or a pole. It makes sense not to take up a whole "Car" parking space.

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 23:45
which again brings me back to the point of why the hell there are scooters and street magics parked back there.....when we first parked there it was semi empty and we all parked behind the gym...admittedly it has gotten busier so we have to park where we can....

equality is something people fight for, admittedly my tl is bigger capacity than your zxr, does that give me more of a right to park there than you? :buggerd:
they too get a wet seat on a rainy day, ride with the same asses trying to take them out.. market for tr50's is good, bloody well easier to knick one of them and rereg it as yours than a big bike!!!!

If we could all just make an effort to ensure a clear path for peds and when we see others pulling up, get them to do the same (and tell them about the pink ribbon ride next weekend!!!!) she'll be all gooood :D

Squiggles
1st October 2007, 23:47
man peace pipe sounds good rite now (whers the blazed emoticon?? :blazed:)


james will be here with it soon no doubt :lol:

xwhatsit
1st October 2007, 23:52
Who the fuck told you my name, Nish?!

Oh wait. You're like President or something :lol:

I think the bikes parking nose-to-tail along the wall of the gym (opposite the lockers) are fine there. Low pedestrian area, don't take up very much room. And maybe one bike right outside the lockers, right in the corner is OK. But more than a few and we're pushing our luck.

Where exactly do you mean, Ste[ph|v]en?

bomma
1st October 2007, 23:58
equality is something people fight for, admittedly my tl is bigger capacity than your zxr, does that give me more of a right to park there than you? :buggerd:
they too get a wet seat on a rainy day, ride with the same asses trying to take them out.. market for tr50's is good, bloody well easier to knick one of them and rereg it as yours than a big bike!!!!

If we could all just make an effort to ensure a clear path for peds and when we see others pulling up, get them to do the same (and tell them about the pink ribbon ride next weekend!!!!) she'll be all gooood :D

lol hu in their right minds would go through the trouble of scoping out, organising and carrying out a jobbie on a bloody scooter?!?!?! its not whos got the bigger instrument (hehe ive always wanted to use that dodgy pun :2thumbsup) just sayin that the street magics and scooters are just as easily parked under the stairs leading upto the quad or further in under the quad....

newayz since no peace pipe at home (parents would kill me if they caught me)....oh speaking of which my mum went to an antique store and bought a bong!! she has no idea what it is but think it "looks cool" :rofl: and i aint gonna tell her what it is ;)

im hittin the sack....got another essay to write tommorrow.........

take it easy yall and im prolly gonna run over as many peds as i can tomorro and c how long i can do burnouts for on their faces before their skin comes off :clap: my rear does need changing so may as well do a few burnouts before i get it replaced

gnite all and shoot peds :zzzz:

bomma
2nd October 2007, 00:01
Who the fuck told you my name, Nish?!

oh i know much more than just your name tom cornall :devil2:

lol should subscribe you to like a gay porn mailing list or something and get the mail sent out in massive pink envelopes directly to your doorstep :lol:

Squiggles
2nd October 2007, 00:39
I am impressed with your diplomacy though

so im more than just the sexiest biker at uni then eh? :o


/edit: heres what i mean tom

Ixion
2nd October 2007, 00:59
..

Where exactly do you mean, Ste[ph|v]en?

That won't work. The unescaped pipe symbol will try to pass Step and Steh to the (non existent ) executable v]en. If it did work (trying to use | as logical OR) it would resolve to Stephen and Stepven, which is not what you want.

In the bash shell, Ste{ph,v}en will work.

motorbyclist
2nd October 2007, 01:25
perhaps next time a scooter takes up a good sopt you should just pick it up and move it? i know i moved scooters out of my way when i used to park in the bike parking - idiots parked so far apart the parking gets full, but too close for me to fit. trust me they aren't heavy


oh, and i reckon a truck crawling down symonds st with 2 big guys loading scooters in it would be full and gone within 3 minutes.

twinkle
2nd October 2007, 07:51
james will be here with it soon no doubt :lol:

I'm still trying to find a good :bling: emoticon.

:doobey:

edit:

bomma
2nd October 2007, 10:59
so im more than just the sexiest biker at uni then eh? :o

have you seen the 08 cbr thou.....you'd need like jessica alba, the hot australian blond from transformers, megan fox (the reason nobody noticed the hot blond australian in transformers), denise richards, jennifer aniston (from back when she was hot), heather graham (from austin powers 2), that chick i see down at the uni gym all the time and like every super model in the world surrounding it to make it look good.....

im disappointed........:crybaby:

and nice blazed emoticons james :niceone: look much better than the 08 cbr1000.....

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 11:36
and nice blazed emoticons james :niceone: look much better than the 08 cbr1000.....


The 08 Fireblade is getting better after initially seeing it for the first time. It is still a bike that you will grow to like....and it is way better looking than James

bomma
2nd October 2007, 11:43
The 08 Fireblade is getting better after initially seeing it for the first time. It is still a bike that you will grow to like....and it is way better looking than James

i dunno i hear james is quite the ladies man ;)

hehe oh and speaking of shit looking bikes check out the 08 gixxer600...didnt think it was possible but it looks worse than the cbr1000 :D

just when you think honda hired a blind fulla to draw up the new cbr, suzuki went and hired themself a blind fulla with no arms!!!

thanks suzuki :niceone:

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 11:51
i dunno i hear james is quite the ladies man ;)
:niceone:

Hi James, think you can help me in giving some tips ....

Phurrball
2nd October 2007, 11:54
Thanks for the diagram Squiggles... Helpful for those of us in exile on the 'other side' of Waterloo Quad to see what you're all talking about.

A little diplomacy would go along way - it strikes me that parking in the nooks and crannies around university is quasi-acceptable at best, and the quickest way to make it outlawed is to wear out our welcome - no matter what me may think about the rights and wrongs of the situation.

On the plus side - if numerous bikes scatted hither and yon all over campus does bring two-wheeled parking to the attention of those in their ivory towers in registry, at least we have a chance to meaningfully point out that the well-intentioned changes to bike parking round university are not working in their current form, and that changes are needed.

My 2cents...

(On a side note - scooters have crept in to the staff parking area at Law School...along with a lecturer's R1. If I ask *really* nicely...maybe they'll let me sneak my bike in there too)

oldrider
2nd October 2007, 12:08
You guys have a problem and really need a sound lasting solution, the old guy is merely a symptom of the wider problem.

You are tomorrows leaders, here is an opportunity to hone up your leadership skills and solve your own problems amicably.

Good luck, this country desperately needs leaders and young people are the only source for the future. :headbang: Cheers John.

twinkle
2nd October 2007, 12:12
....and it is way better looking than James
you are so mean kim

avgas
2nd October 2007, 12:13
Do they have internet in Shadows these days ;)

bomma
2nd October 2007, 12:16
You guys have a problem and really need a sound lasting solution, the old guy is merely a symptom of the wider problem.

You are tomorrows leaders, here is an opportunity to hone up your leadership skills and solve your own problems amicably.

Good luck, this country desperately needs leaders and young people are the only source for the future. :headbang: Cheers John.

one of the guys we know is working on opening up alfred st for bike parking again....he's putting together a document that outlines the problems we have been having and stuff...

we'll post it up when we know more but he's is basically looking for a few bikers to go along with him when he makes his case, just to add some validity and credibility to the argument.

i know im definately gonna go (provided im in the city/country) and i know many others who are keen so hopefully that will be the long-run solution....till then im gonna try and not run over any peds and will continue to park my bike near the lockers for safety reasons

EDIT: just cant seem to emphasise enough how MUNTER-ish peds are!!! god gave you eyes and a brain for a reason you dum fuckers!!! sad thing is that the people who gave me this attitude toward peds don't represent the population but now everytime i see a ped near the road edge i think "munter" and get ready to brake.....fucking munters

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 12:48
you are so mean kim

WHoops did not mean that. You are special in your own way.....the CBR is special in many biking way :woohoo:

twinkle
2nd October 2007, 12:51
WHoops did not mean that. You are special in your own way.....the CBR is special in many biking way :woohoo:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

scumdog
2nd October 2007, 12:53
Uh oh spaghettio: I think you meant "read your above post", not "you above post". Punctuation and grammar, what a bitch eh...?!

I do agree though that the writing skills of many UOA students' is pretty shocking, (2 years of tutoring at the place). And I am not perfect either: Did I get the apostrophe in the right place?

Bastid!

It wasn't meant to be YOU that picked that up.


But well done anyway.

HungusMaximist
2nd October 2007, 12:58
Haha, I don't park at Auckland Uni but I might start doing so.

I reckon the undercover carpark under Shads is probably the best place to park bikes.

Andrew is right about all these shitter bikes/scooters taking up space and next them you see em, just move em.

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 13:11
Haha, I don't park at Auckland Uni but I might start doing so.

I reckon the undercover carpark under Shads is probably the best place to park bikes.

Andrew is right about all these shitter bikes/scooters taking up space and next them you see em, just move em.

Think there will be some construction for that area including the parking near shadows. Just be careful to check the ground aint full of nails or sharp objects. You can try parking inside the engineering parking.

oldrider
2nd October 2007, 13:15
one of the guys we know is working on opening up alfred st for bike parking again....he's putting together a document that outlines the problems we have been having and stuff...

we'll post it up when we know more but he's is basically looking for a few bikers to go along with him when he makes his case, just to add some validity and credibility to the argument.

i know im definately gonna go (provided im in the city/country) and i know many others who are keen so hopefully that will be the long-run solution....till then im gonna try and not run over any peds and will continue to park my bike near the lockers for safety reasons

EDIT: just cant seem to emphasise enough how MUNTER-ish peds are!!! god gave you eyes and a brain for a reason you dum fuckers!!! sad thing is that the people who gave me this attitude toward peds don't represent the population but now everytime i see a ped near the road edge i think "munter" and get ready to brake.....fucking munters

Excellent but the current value of real-estate in Auckland must put the value of parking lots into unrealistic figures now a days, surely!

I guess "free" parking means the University picks up the bill and ultimately the Tax payer.

Even with the bike parking problem solved, the old guy will still just be the nutty old guy but there will be a time line fixed to him any way!

When he goes he will be replaced by another and another etc until the current nutter is actually your own age, now that gets scary! (lol) Cheers John.

PS: The bike thefts around Universities makes me bloody sick, actually any bike theft makes me sick!

HungusMaximist
2nd October 2007, 13:22
Think there will be some construction for that area including the parking near shadows. Just be careful to check the ground aint full of nails or sharp objects. You can try parking inside the engineering parking.

Is that undercover and is really sneaky like where Nish parks?

I only need to workout places to park when I head up to Auckland Uni, otherwise it's just at AUT.

I sometime park at the Quad (where vesbar is), that plot of space next to Student Job Search, just by the entrance where it leads to to the GYM.

Otherwise, under the flight of stairs next to The Hub, where there's actually grounded bike anchors, but they're doing some upgrades at the moment so I can't great through.

It's real good, better than the crowded business faculty.

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 13:29
Is that undercover and is really sneaky like where Nish parks?

I only need to workout places to park when I head up to Auckland Uni, otherwise it's just at AUT.

I sometime park at the Quad (where vesbar is), that plot of space next to Student Job Search, just by the entrance where it leads to to the GYM.

Otherwise, under the flight of stairs next to The Hub, where there's actually grounded bike anchors, but they're doing some upgrades at the moment so I can't great through.

It's real good, better than the crowded business faculty.

It is actually an AUT staff parking building which you need a swipe card but I have seen bikers (students) just riding pass the side of the barrier. Next to wilson carpark on st paul street

bomma
2nd October 2007, 13:35
just found out that the ol crazy wasnt just some old crazy guy.....hes the dean of science (dick) apparently....no thats his name

and just a reply to the comment bout the value of real-estate point....the bits of the road that bikers used to park on when alfred st was still open for parking are now NOT IN USE AT ALL!! they lay barren with barely any foot traffic passing through the upper parts of alfred st....its obvious that they have not invested any time and research into finding out how the patterns of bike parking and usage on that road

klyong82
2nd October 2007, 13:41
Are you sure this fella is a dean? the original first post by badassbandit mentioned that he was calling a rider stupid and a dick??!! He should not be using language like that...

bomma
2nd October 2007, 14:14
Are you sure this fella is a dean? the original first post by badassbandit mentioned that he was calling a rider stupid and a dick??!! He should not be using language like that...

yep when he stopped david (the guy wif the black cbr dat fell ova at the agm), david asked him who he was and the guy identified himself as the dean....wat a dick aye

xwhatsit
2nd October 2007, 14:35
one of the guys we know is working on opening up alfred st for bike parking again....he's putting together a document that outlines the problems we have been having and stuff...

we'll post it up when we know more but he's is basically looking for a few bikers to go along with him when he makes his case, just to add some validity and credibility to the argument.

That would be Ixion, who posted at the top of the 3rd page with the comment about my syntax being incorrect :) Perhaps I was thinking of regular expressions? (Stand back -- I know regex!).


The letter is kicking around here somewhere, I can't remember which thread it's in but I'll post it up here once I find it. He's not exactly specifically looking for Alfred St to be opened up, it's just kind of mentioned as an alternative I think. It's just calling for adequate parking in general -- certainly Alfred St would be the easiest/cheapest option I would assume. Ixion's the president of BRONZ (http://www.bronz.org.nz/), which is a biker's rights organisation who like to pick fights with figures of authority. Sounds right up your alley, Nish ^_^.

Anyway, as I mentioned in Sunday's meeting, he's looking for a few of us to tag along to the council. We don't need to do anything -- just stand there and look like the `voice of the people' ;)

bomma
2nd October 2007, 14:43
That would be Ixion, who posted at the top of the 3rd page with the comment about my syntax being incorrect :) Perhaps I was thinking of regular expressions? (Stand back -- I know regex!).


The letter is kicking around here somewhere, I can't remember which thread it's in but I'll post it up here once I find it. He's not exactly specifically looking for Alfred St to be opened up, it's just kind of mentioned as an alternative I think. It's just calling for adequate parking in general -- certainly Alfred St would be the easiest/cheapest option I would assume. Ixion's the president of BRONZ (http://www.bronz.org.nz/), which is a biker's rights organisation who like to pick fights with figures of authority. Sounds right up your alley, Nish ^_^.

Anyway, as I mentioned in Sunday's meeting, he's looking for a few of us to tag along to the council. We don't need to do anything -- just stand there and look like the `voice of the people' ;)

hehe fo shizzle....sounds like we'd get along just fine :niceone:

and yes like i said in a post somewher and at the meeting, im sure that the whole club is itching to back you up mate so just give us a time and place and we'll be there in numbers :2thumbsup

xwhatsit
2nd October 2007, 14:59
Here's the link to the post with the letter attached: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1204896&postcount=19

Relevant quote from the letter:

BRONZ considers this situation entirely unsatisfactory, and calls upon you to immediately :
* Either restore motorcycle access and parking in Alfred St:
* Or, provide further dedicated parking in Symond’s St and Princes St. BRONZ suggests that to accommodate demand this should comprise the whole of both sides of Symond’s St and Princes St from Waterloo Quadrant to Wellesley St.

bomma
2nd October 2007, 15:07
thats pretty awesome ixion (lee) good to see that you highlighted the importance of the biking community in multiple ways....

just wondering if we could make a case directly based on opening alfred st up for bike parking. my focus on alfred st is stemmed by the ease with which bikes can be stolen from symonds st and princes st....alfred st has also seemingly become a hot spot for cops who haunt the street, waiting for the unwary car to come driving down and slapping em with a fine. this makes it that much safer for bikes to be parked there....

my 2 rupees

xwhatsit
2nd October 2007, 15:19
thats pretty awesome ixion (lee) good to see that you highlighted the importance of the biking community in multiple ways....

just wondering if we could make a case directly based on opening alfred st up for bike parking. my focus on alfred st is stemmed by the ease with which bikes can be stolen from symonds st and princes st....alfred st has also seemingly become a hot spot for cops who haunt the street, waiting for the unwary car to come driving down and slapping em with a fine. this makes it that much safer for bikes to be parked there....

my 2 rupees
:%s/lee<lee>/les/g

Alfred St is undoubtedly the easiest option. I can't see them being too happy about losing Symonds St and Princes St to bikes. I don't see that the theft issue has much to do with parking, to be honest; that's a separate issue -- in free public parking, we shouldn't expect security to be a determining factor.

Alfred St is top of the list anyway.
</lee>

bomma
2nd October 2007, 15:32
[QUOTE=xerxesdaphat;1229309. I don't see that the theft issue has much to do with parking, to be honest; that's a separate issue -- in free public parking, we shouldn't expect security to be a determining factor.</lee>[/QUOTE]

i dunno about that Tom Cornall....by allocating free parking areas, the city would expect those spots to be used....what is the point in large areas of land being allocated to parking if nobody uses em?? city loses out as it is just wasted space and bikers would lose out because they have gained nothing (in terms of parking space)

every factor is relatively important and contributes to the decisions made....

safety from theft is just an important a factor as the gradient of the road or the quality of seal etc....they all play a major role in determining whether ill park there and whether my bike will be safe while parked there

again just my two rupees

EDIT: but yes you are right, the other two streets would not be viable areas to corner off as "bike only parking" areas....alfred st is most likely at the top of their list :niceone: good point that Tom Cornall, never thought of it that way

xwhatsit
2nd October 2007, 15:38
O/T: Is this `Tom Cornall' shit happening just because I signed my full name on the sheet instead of just `Nish' like the rest of you ? :lol:

bomma
2nd October 2007, 15:40
O/T: Is this `Tom Cornall' shit happening just because I signed my full name on the sheet instead of just `Nish' like the rest of you ? :lol:

nope just coz i can :) :lol: nah mate just doin it coz you were surprised i knew your name!!! (even tho i created and maintain the clubs member list)

just messin wit ya for cheap thrills...ill get bored with typin it out and stop pretty soon so just bare with me :)

EDIT: i hafnt actually seen that agm sheet stuff since the agm!!! man i need to get onto that aye......

UberRhys
2nd October 2007, 16:03
perhaps next time a scooter takes up a good sopt you should just pick it up and move it? i know i moved scooters out of my way when i used to park in the bike parking - idiots parked so far apart the parking gets full, but too close for me to fit. trust me they aren't heavy


oh, and i reckon a truck crawling down symonds st with 2 big guys loading scooters in it would be full and gone within 3 minutes.

By god if anyone moves my scooter, I will do exactly what you would do if someone fiddles round with your bike - f*#king give them a good kicking, I don't care who you are! I'll ask questions later. :ar15: :bash:

That said there are plenty of idiots out there that have no consideration. Don't worry, natural selection will get them soon... :banana:

Ixion
2nd October 2007, 16:14
Parking is controlled by an Auckland City Council committee , the Transport and Urban Linkages Committee.

Members of the public are entitled to (short) speaking rights at such committees. Once I have the response from the Council (the letter went by snail mail, and the response will come the same way , so the time is measured in geological terms), I will request speaking rights on behalf of BRONZ and the AUMSC. On such occassions it is important to pack the chamber with supporters. The latter may not address the committee but their presence sends a message . One person with a complaint is a crank. Half a dozen are a pressure group. Fifty is the Voice of the People.

I see no reason why we should not extend the request to include security railings along the roadside so riders can chain up their machines. After all it is we who are doing them a favour by helping solve their pollution problem.

In such matters it is always well to give one's opponent two choices - one that is unpalatable to them, and one that you actually want. Verb sap.

BTW BRONZ does not like to pick fights with figures of authority. If they will only do as they are told there is no need for fighting at all. Education is where we are at, but sometimes they resist being educated.

motorbyclist
2nd October 2007, 16:46
By god if anyone moves my scooter, I will do exactly what you would do if someone fiddles round with your bike - f*#king give them a good kicking, I don't care who you are! I'll ask questions later. :ar15: :bash:

That said there are plenty of idiots out there that have no consideration. Don't worry, natural selection will get them soon... :banana:

i'm not moving them far, just a foot in whatever direction it needs to go....

not like that scooter i saw someone had put in a garden:lol:

twinkle
2nd October 2007, 17:07
just found out that the ol crazy wasnt just some old crazy guy.....hes the dean of science (dick) apparently....no thats his name


oooooohoooohohhhahaha i've heard a couple of good stories about him, this is another :eek: a little bit excitable he is :rofl:

Squiggles
2nd October 2007, 17:09
Today was not much better, perhaps worse at times...

Dan managed to park in the space surrounding the doorway which the others had left clear, and david and tom will loose mirrors if large people walk by...

for those that line the wall park with your sidestand to the wall and you leave a good foot extra space for people to walk down, david's bike was hanging well out into the path!

And once again, the area where my cx is parked was more 2/3rds empty... more secure and no rain at all over there! perhaps we're being a wee bit lazy in lining that wall :whistle:

twinkle
2nd October 2007, 17:13
O/T: Is this `Tom Cornall' shit happening just because I signed my full name on the sheet

sounds like a porn star name to me :shutup: :laugh:

HungusMaximist
3rd October 2007, 00:16
hehe fo shizzle....sounds like we'd get along just fine :niceone:

and yes like i said in a post somewher and at the meeting, im sure that the whole club is itching to back you up mate so just give us a time and place and we'll be there in numbers :2thumbsup

Just make sure you turn up decked out in full bike leathers or textiles.

Extra points if you can score some decked out Harley Riders, even better, gang riders like Headhunters or the Mongrel Mobs.

Fetish leather peeps are O.K also... :yes:

Grub
3rd October 2007, 00:38
But he might be able to teach you some punctuation and grammar.

You missed out the spelling too (no I don't mean the SMS-speak). Isn't it comforting to know that this is a first class example of our education dollars at work - all the way to tertiary level.

PirateJafa
3rd October 2007, 16:35
Just make sure you turn up decked out in full bike leathers or textiles.

Wear helmets inside? :P

ehab2weelr
3rd October 2007, 16:55
ok it started with me kyle and nish parking there, it was gud for a few weekes then we met dan but he had a scooter at the time and didnt park there knowing that he well just take up space (good one dan :niceone:) then we met stephen and hanna and they stared parking there, then prudhvi and alok start parking there, and then we met daved back wen he had the gsxr600and he started parking there, then dan got a vtr250 so now he parkes there, and Ale with the hornet and his mate with the bandet start parking there, and rob with the gt250r yellow is now parking there, and the cb250sr (xerxesdaphat) is now parking there, and the 2 chrises the one with the vfr and the one with the fzr started parking there and now andrew is parking there, and finaly the R1 now parkes there because we let him park there and he has an R1. :msn-wink: :niceone:

if u park there but ur name is not in the list then i eather dont know u, or i dont like u. so stop parking there.:devil2:

and evry one ealse that i know and u know that i know u but didnt write ur name then u just never parked there but u can.:apint:

and if i forgot u then sorry i dont like u! hahah na just let me know. :blank:

motorbyclist
3rd October 2007, 17:00
perhaps we need a sign: secure parking for valuable bikes at risk of theft - scooters should park elsewhere

ehab2weelr
3rd October 2007, 17:04
perhaps we need a sign: secure parking for valuable bikes at risk of theft - scooters should park elsewhere

scooter should not exist!! hahahh :devil2:

Chrislost
3rd October 2007, 17:06
i met this wonderful guy today.


i didnt get a chance to ask him why he didnt like bikes parking there but i figured that he wanted to get them all towed.
then i found this because some guy on a green bike told me about it.

motorbyclist
3rd October 2007, 18:04
when i arrived this morning it was reasonably packed with not obstruction to foot traffic, but i did note that both Ehabs gsx250 and much moreso Nish's zx7r are very long and stick out quite far onto the footpath.

can you two, or atleast Nish (seeing as i didn't see a bike lock to the steel bar) park by the lockers or on more of an angle?


on a brighter note, the car that usually parks next to my spot had moved over a few feet, possibly to give me more room - that's right, a cager with a brain! (maybe, either that or they're REALLY bad at parking)

Squiggles
3rd October 2007, 21:45
i think where nish and ehab parked today was good, the path is wide enough there to leave a good amount of room with them parking longways, no bikes were leaning out into the path either, much more room and much more outta the way :yes:

Hanne
3rd October 2007, 22:37
Fetish leather peeps are O.K also... :yes:

If any males are looking for leather trousers, I saw some the other day in a second hand shop on Dominion Road. They were a very distinctive style. Looked like regular leather pants until you got to the crotch part, and then ther seemed to be something missing...

Cowboy holsters?
Or something more interesting?

you decide.

PS you better be in quick though there were only one pair like that, all the others had full crotch attached :P

sunhuntin
3rd October 2007, 22:48
perhaps we need a sign: secure parking for valuable bikes at risk of theft - scooters should park elsewhere

all bikes are at risk of theft or other damage. if i rode a scooter, i would be just as gutted over any damage as i would i i rode a $20,000 harley. no matter what the ride, that bike is important to its owner, and the owner may well be dependant on that scoot for transport. i know if my bike is in the shop, im basically crippled as it is my sole form of transport. id be pretty much dead if it got stolen.

as for moving a bike, thats just not on. i bet youd be spitting tacks if someone moved yours, so why think its ok to touch someone elses. [ie, if you park with the sidestand in the road of foot traffic, someone takes offence and tips your bike up so its leaning on the wall]

do you guys have signed bike parking up there? if so, why not use it? cos youll get a wet seat? then get some overpants... they get wet, but your backside stays dry. or else stick a plastic bag over the seat, and take it off when you leave. i dont know how many of you are actually involved in this, but remember, it only takes one psycho dean to take offence and send a bike sideways. bikes are always in the minority [except at bike shops] and we will always be ruled against.

when you lot enter the work force, you may not have a choice where to park, whether you get to park under shelter or not. i dont have that choice [parking on the forecourt could get my bike hit, and i have seen little kids fucking around with it as well. pity it wasnt hot at the time.] so i simply park in the rain and wear a pair of leather overpants. only weather that sees me risking a ding from a car is hail or very very strong sidewinds.

motorbyclist
3rd October 2007, 23:14
all bikes are at risk of theft or other damage. if i rode a scooter, i would be just as gutted over any damage as i would i i rode a $20,000 harley. no matter what the ride, that bike is important to its owner, and the owner may well be dependant on that scoot for transport. i know if my bike is in the shop, im basically crippled as it is my sole form of transport. id be pretty much dead if it got stolen.

i said "at risk of theft" - who in their right mind would steal a scooter? also, for some of us a replacement bike can be hard to find and we live a significant distance from the city (so MAJOR inconvenience) - can't really say the same for all the 50cc scooters out there



as for moving a bike, thats just not on. i bet youd be spitting tacks if someone moved yours, so why think its ok to touch someone elses. [ie, if you park with the sidestand in the road of foot traffic, someone takes offence and tips your bike up so its leaning on the wall]

that's why i park it where it won't affect anyone - notice i don't park up by that steel bar? it's cause i don't use a bike lock/cable/chain, so won't take space from those who do.... and that said, if my bike was moved a little bit, and not damaged, i would probably be ok with it provided there was a likely reaon to move it (again i only move scooters when the gap is just too small for my bike - if they don't want to be moved 30cm they should park closer together)



do you guys have signed bike parking up there? if so, why not use it? cos youll get a wet seat? then get some overpants... they get wet, but your backside stays dry. or else stick a plastic bag over the seat, and take it off when you leave. i dont know how many of you are actually involved in this, but remember, it only takes one psycho dean to take offence and send a bike sideways. bikes are always in the minority [except at bike shops] and we will always be ruled against.

hey, i'm not moaning about a wet seat - i'd park there either way

motorbyclist
3rd October 2007, 23:15
and seeing as you seem to be in wanganui, i have to ask if you've even seen the situation up here?

sunhuntin
3rd October 2007, 23:18
if people will steal a ratty pair of covers from a gn250, theyll steal a scooter. not so much to have it, just to be a pain in the ass and alleiviate their own boredom for 5 seconds. [kinda like the guys who graffiti mindless shit that no one can read, or like the woman that shoplifted a car air freshner from the warehouse... they found it down her knickers, of all places!]

and no, i didnt notice. kinda cos your there, and im here. lol. my vision aint that good, lol.

:beer:

no, i havent, but ive got the general idea. to me, the bikes safety is paramount, and parking in a spot where it could get knocked by foot traffic... nada. not good.

motorbyclist
3rd October 2007, 23:34
problem is that the guys stealing bikes are doing exactly that - stealing high value sportbikes, and don't seem to interested in the swathes of scooters (if they were we'd know). now that we at uni have hidden our bikes they've probably moved onto another part of auckland....

does that ducati 998 still park on symonds street? somebody should talk to him or leave a note or something... then again, if he's gone i think my bike is next on the theft list :( (i still occasionally park on symonds if i'm lazy/in a hurry), and once my steering lock is broken there's nothing to stop 'em - and i've already spent $500 on a new ignition back before uni started

xwhatsit
4th October 2007, 00:04
It's not the theft, or getting a wet seat. The main problems, and the main reason why most people park there, is because A) when the sun's out, there's sweet fuck all parking available, and it's quite likely you'll have trouble finding room, and B) Symonds St is scary-dangerous to get in and out of. I see near misses every day, and pulling a U-turn across four lanes of rush-hour traffic is every so slightly nerve-wracking. What's worse is actually backing into the parking space, whilst taking up part of a lane.

motorbyclist
4th October 2007, 00:10
It's not the theft, or getting a wet seat. The main problems, and the main reason why most people park there, is because A) when the sun's out, there's sweet fuck all parking available, and it's quite likely you'll have trouble finding room, and B) Symonds St is scary-dangerous to get in and out of. I see near misses every day, and pulling a U-turn across four lanes of rush-hour traffic is every so slightly nerve-wracking. What's worse is actually backing into the parking space, whilst taking up part of a lane.

and the pedestrians

i had one guy cross the road infront of me today while txting (i was was doing 55kph, so no blaming my riding!)

bomma
4th October 2007, 00:29
hey i know motorbycyclist had his say bout this post but id just like to add a couple of things


all bikes are at risk of theft or other damage. if i rode a scooter, i would be just as gutted over any damage as i would i i rode a $20,000 harley. no matter what the ride, that bike is important to its owner, and the owner may well be dependant on that scoot for transport. i know if my bike is in the shop, im basically crippled as it is my sole form of transport. id be pretty much dead if it got stolen..

yea but some are at much MUCH greater risk than others of being stolen...also the cost or replacing a scooter is much less than that of replacing, oh i dont kno, an RSV1000 that was stolen a couple months back....but yes everonye is interested in protecting their belongings


as for moving a bike, thats just not on. i bet youd be spitting tacks if someone moved yours, so why think its ok to touch someone elses. [ie, if you park with the sidestand in the road of foot traffic, someone takes offence and tips your bike up so its leaning on the wall].

i agree with you, i got pissed off the other day coz someone had stuck a "free barbie" poster on my side view mirror, i was fuming and had planned on going to the barbie to express my views but later fond out that it was ehab...i fully dont condone moving or messing with random peoples bikes


do you guys have signed bike parking up there? if so, why not use it? cos youll get a wet seat? then get some overpants... they get wet, but your backside stays dry. or else stick a plastic bag over the seat, and take it off when you leave. i dont know how many of you are actually involved in this, but remember, it only takes one psycho dean to take offence and send a bike sideways. bikes are always in the minority [except at bike shops] and we will always be ruled against..

yes but as you may have read symonds st parking is usually packed, with scooters taking up a lot more space than they need...also bigger bikes like mine with a shitty turning circle find it near impossible to fit perfectly into a tight squeeze first time...for me my bikes safety is paramount....if i came back to my bike n found her on her side id be in tears but if i came back and found that she was gone id probably havea heart attack


when you lot enter the work force, you may not have a choice where to park, whether you get to park under shelter or not. i dont have that choice [parking on the forecourt could get my bike hit, and i have seen little kids fucking around with it as well. pity it wasnt hot at the time.] so i simply park in the rain and wear a pair of leather overpants. only weather that sees me risking a ding from a car is hail or very very strong sidewinds.

i am in the workforce, i have 4 different jobs and it isnt that hard to find a park in safe, sheltered areas.....most of my bosses really like my bike and will go out of their way to ensure that they allow me a safe place to park it.

xwhatsit
4th October 2007, 00:58
Ignore Bomma, he whinges like a bitch ;)

I don't know if anybody ever got a photo of Symonds St when it's full, I remember somebody requested one for the council. I ought to take one some time (at least when the weather's cleaned up and the pansy-girly bikers have started riding again).

Dude, I may be biased because I've got an old bike, but I don't really give a shit how expensive your bike is. For some guy working $9.50 in BK with a $500 scooter, it's just as much of a financial hit as it is when your $x000 ZX7R gets nicked. In fact, at least your bike (and other more pricey bikes) is/are likely to be insured.

klyong82
4th October 2007, 08:54
With the new law on third party insurance not sure would scooters need to also have at least third party insurance. This would probably be extra cost for poor students so they might be less scooters on the road. :Punk: I noticed several times a white CBR929 parking on Symond St. bike park. Wonder why it was not pinched by the scums. Probably they know what a HISS is.....good Honda....security system.

Macstar
4th October 2007, 11:26
I noticed several times a white CBR929 parking on Symond St. bike park. Wonder why it was not pinched by the scums. Probably they know what a HISS is.....good Honda....security system.

Or maybe they didn't steal it because they knew it would take 4 weeks to get a fuel sensor.... eh Kim?!:niceone: BTW: what's the latest on your bike, will you have it for the Coromandel this weekend? It's been so long since you last rode it that you'll probably need a few weeks just to get used to it again!

klyong82
4th October 2007, 13:07
Or maybe they didn't steal it because they knew it would take 4 weeks to get a fuel sensor.... eh Kim?!:niceone: BTW: what's the latest on your bike, will you have it for the Coromandel this weekend? It's been so long since you last rode it that you'll probably need a few weeks just to get used to it again!

No news part must still be at customs besides I am so used to the Guzzi now and hoping to do more k's on it unless the bike comes back. CBR's will be easy to ride and get used to in a short time as I have not ridden anything but CBR's for a long time.

ehab2weelr
4th October 2007, 13:38
bikes cost more than scooters, and so dose insurance so if we can pay our insurance them scooter riders can do to. i got 2 jobs and geting a 3rd just so i can get my bike back into shap :buggerd: and still i pay my insurance.:rolleyes:
i sade it once i say it again "Scooters should not exsist!!!!" :lol:

UberRhys
4th October 2007, 13:50
scooter should not exist!! hahahh :devil2:

Correction: dumb f#*ks driving cages with no consideration and no brains shouldn't exist.

Macstar
4th October 2007, 13:55
Fuck all this "I'm better than you shit".

Hey Uberhys: You ever raced your Vespa at that Auckland circut? I saw a full-on Vespa race championship on the late night news once and thought man that would be fun to go and watch. Apparently racers had souped up their Vespas to crank 160kph! Must be pretty fucken hairy doing those speeds with your legs shut and toes pointing forward?!

Any info on when the next Vespa race meet is would be appreciated!

Finn
4th October 2007, 13:57
Why is our University in the middle of the city in the first place?

UberRhys
4th October 2007, 14:00
bikes cost more than scooters, and so dose insurance so if we can pay our insurance them scooter riders can do to. i got 2 jobs and geting a 3rd just so i can get my bike back into shap :buggerd: and still i pay my insurance.:rolleyes:
i sade it once i say it again "Scooters should not exsist!!!!" :lol:

Bikes cost more than scooters - you do know that scooters aren't just 50cc's now don't yah? 50cc scoots range from $500-$2k, my 06 GT was $7k and the bigger the scoot the bigger the price. There is a v-twin Gillera which may be out of both yours and my range... Isn't that how it works with bikes as well? Pretty sure it is otherwise R1's would be readily available to everyone at a cheap price.

Do agree though that insurance should be compulsary for [B]all[B] motorised road users. Responsible road use.

UberRhys
4th October 2007, 14:05
Fuck all this "I'm better than you shit".

Hey Uberhys: You ever raced your Vespa at that Auckland circut? I saw a full-on Vespa race championship on the late night news once and thought man that would be fun to go and watch. Apparently racers had souped up their Vespas to crank 160kph! Must be pretty fucken hairy doing those speeds with your legs shut and toes pointing forward?!

Any info on when the next Vespa race meet is would be appreciated!

Yeah putting together a plan for next season. They do go like sh#t off a shovel though, pop down to Mt Wellington Kart track out the back of the Tamaki campus on race day and check it out. There are other bikes racing there at the same time. I remember some dude got pasted going into a corner and he got taken by 2 fast scoots - he never lived it down in the pits. The flip side to any racing though is the faster you go the more it hurts. Las t Sunday a chap put his scoot down at pace and broke the tib & fib leg bones. A few months before that my mate came off with a puncture and smashed his foot into more pieces. but hey - heaps of fun...

Macstar
4th October 2007, 14:08
Ha! Wicked, can you let me know by PM when the next race day is then? Cheers.

motorbyclist
4th October 2007, 17:00
Why is our University in the middle of the city in the first place?

we aren't in the middle, we're kinda off side of the CDB, and thankfully we've got proper motorway access... why does it matter?

Finn
4th October 2007, 17:09
we aren't in the middle, we're kinda off side of the CDB, and thankfully we've got proper motorway access... why does it matter?

Because Universities should be as far away from the city centre as possible.

motorbyclist
4th October 2007, 17:43
again, why?

Macstar
4th October 2007, 21:04
That Pizza Hut Coke dude is right, globally it is rare to have a university in the CBD of a major city. The land value is too high and the 30,000-odd students add to congestion. UOA is a useless campus spread all over the city. Students have to cross dangerous roads and walk all over town sometimes just to get your next class. The buildings are a mixture of run down shit holes from the 60s to amazingly modern buildings like the new business school one. But overall, UOA is so geographically segregated that students also become segregated. You come in to classes and cruise off home after straight away. Other unis have a more centralised layout, interdepartmental interaction and much more campus life. AND, most importantly to this thread: many universities have decent student parking too!

twinkle
4th October 2007, 21:28
the uni started in 1890 odd didn't it? and the city sort of... grew around it?

motorbyclist
5th October 2007, 02:08
That Pizza Hut Coke dude is right, globally it is rare to have a university in the CBD of a major city. The land value is too high and the 30,000-odd students add to congestion. UOA is a useless campus spread all over the city. Students have to cross dangerous roads and walk all over town sometimes just to get your next class. The buildings are a mixture of run down shit holes from the 60s to amazingly modern buildings like the new business school one. But overall, UOA is so geographically segregated that students also become segregated. You come in to classes and cruise off home after straight away. Other unis have a more centralised layout, interdepartmental interaction and much more campus life. AND, most importantly to this thread: many universities have decent student parking too!

yeah i suppose you're right there.... and rent in the city is higher than elsewhere too. perhaps we should pick up all the buildings and steal the aut campus in mt albert:msn-wink: EDIT, i mean unitec, not aut :doh:

i have developed a "bad" habit of riding from lecture to lecture if it's too far, and as you say, i know us engineers are largely insulated from the rest of uni. i had a high school friend (physics/philosphy conjoint) hanging with me in the engineering building 3rd floor study area and he asked how we all knew each other. seems for other faculties students don't get to stick together as much....

klyong82
5th October 2007, 08:57
yeah i suppose you're right there.... and rent in the city is higher than elsewhere too. perhaps we should pick up all the buildings and steal the aut campus in mt albert:msn-wink:
....

There are no AUT campuses in Mt Albert but I know there were talks of mergers between unis and polytechnics which has probably gone to custered now. Anyway agreed with Macstar it is unusual that UOA and perhaps VUW happen to be located in the CBD region whereas most uni's around the world are in the middle of no where.

motorbyclist
5th October 2007, 11:59
There are no AUT campuses in Mt Albert
oops, sorry i meant unitec!:doh:

Chrislost
7th October 2007, 20:51
AUT is in the middle of the shity to isnt it?

its a university now yknow

xwhatsit
7th October 2007, 22:08
Heheh, I call it `AIT' just to upset them :)

They're in an even worse position in many ways; at least we've got a few more open spaces kicking around -- they're in quite a crowded part of the city, footpath room only.

motorbyclist
7th October 2007, 23:17
AUT is in the middle of the shity to isnt it?

its a university now yknow

i meant unitec! the one in mt albert off the northwestern!


lol has anyone noticed AUT's new logo? they put "university" under the AUT, so now it's "auckland university of technology university" :laugh:

bomma
8th October 2007, 12:27
lol has anyone noticed AUT's new logo? they put "university" under the AUT, so now it's "auckland university of technology university" :laugh:

happened last year, they tryin really hard to make sure people know that theyre a uni and not a polytechnic or wateva....

just back on topic, im gonna be writing an essay type letter in the little spare time that i have to the dean of science, outlining the reasons that have compelled us to park out the back by the lockers, so if anyone has anything they'd like to add or have me include in the letter pm me.

no abuse of the guy, nothing rude and please keep it constructive :niceone:

Squiggles
8th October 2007, 14:50
nish, firstly we should check is actually the dean

this is what he looks like:

xwhatsit
8th October 2007, 16:16
He does look like a crazy old guy, it must be said ^_^

Seriously though, do we need to flick him a letter? He's not in charge of the parking. You reckon you could put the letter up on here before you send it? Probably a good idea to use utmost tact.

Personally I think somebody must've done something to piss him off so badly.

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 16:32
Personally I think somebody must've done something to piss him off so badly.

i wouldn't guarantee it

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 17:36
i was just thinking of our central, not-in-the-middle-of-nowhere, placement in the cbd, and would like to point out some advantages

like lots of jobs, especially for those doing engineering degrees who need to complete 800 hours work, which would be made more difficult if we had to move back up to auckland for the summer.

twinkle
8th October 2007, 17:49
just back on topic, im gonna be writing an essay type letter in the little spare time that i have to the dean of science, outlining the reasons that have compelled us to park out the back by the lockers

I don't think that would be a good idea....

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 17:52
yeah, let's not get anyone's attention


how bout we write a letter to get alfred st back - perhaps address it to tv3 news too;)

bomma
8th October 2007, 19:12
nish, firstly we should check is actually the dean

yep dats the guy....never forget that *cough**wrinkled old**cough* face


I don't think that would be a good idea....

any particular reasons?? the reason i want to write to the guy is to try and reason with him...being an academic im sure he's at least a little reasonable....

also he mentioned that he would do all in his power to ensure that we return to find all our bikes towed from the area so this is my effort to stop that from happening in a constructive manner....id rather avoid a war with someone that has any political power

and yea i'll prolly post the letter up on kb to make sure it has everything and so that it can be criticised by the general public, allowing me to address any issues and other shit like that :niceone:

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 19:26
just because he said he would doesn't mean he can nor will do anything

i'd just be quiet and hope he's forgotten about it


on a lighter note, i didn't see any scooters today

Folcan
8th October 2007, 20:17
I saw some when I left uni at around 3pm :S

Squiggles
8th October 2007, 21:07
leave it for now, until they come by again. Lets just play nice back there and park where its possible....

Absolute lazyness rang a bell at 9-10am this morning, 5 bikes parked right outside the lockers and covering the right side of the doorway, while the park next to the gym back entrance and over by the sci centre had 1 (of 5 possible) and 3 (of 10 possible) respectively parked in them

Fine to get a couple in there, a couple means they're outta the way, 5 will be seen as a pain in the ass...

If i have the chance i will hang round there tomorrow morning to try and get it cleaned up a bit

Chrislost
8th October 2007, 21:43
the old guy has a point.
if the bikes parked where bommer was when the guy was talking to him are facing straight out then they do take up about 20cm of the walkways width for a few feet of its length. they need to be on a slant.



if i find my bike missing i will burnout infront of his aircon intake a few times.

:Playnice:

Ixion
8th October 2007, 22:12
leave it for now, until they come by again. Lets just play nice back there and park where its possible....

Absolute lazyness rang a bell at 9-10am this morning, 5 bikes parked right outside the lockers and covering the right side of the doorway, while the park next to the gym back entrance and over by the sci centre had 1 (of 5 possible) and 3 (of 10 possible) respectively parked in them

Fine to get a couple in there, a couple means they're outta the way, 5 will be seen as a pain in the ass...

If i have the chance i will hang round there tomorrow morning to try and get it cleaned up a bit

I do hope you are not studying architecture or graphic design.

twinkle
8th October 2007, 22:24
any particular reasons?? the reason i want to write to the guy is to try and reason with him...being an academic im sure he's at least a little reasonable....

also he mentioned that he would do all in his power to ensure that we return to find all our bikes towed from the area so this is my effort to stop that from happening in a constructive manner....id rather avoid a war with someone that has any political power

Because the motorbikes down that walkway are in the way when it gets busy. I think he might find someone else to rant at too, and forget all about the bikes, if he hasn't already.

And like chris said, they need to be on a slant.

twinkle
8th October 2007, 22:29
I just thought, why don't we break out the white paint when nobody is looking and put some diagonal parking spaces in there :shifty: It would look legit then wouldn't it :Police:

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 22:57
the old guy has a point.
if the bikes parked where bommer was when the guy was talking to him are facing straight out then they do take up about 20cm of the walkways width for a few feet of its length. they need to be on a slant.


haha nice stand you had today! you took my spot but i'll make a special exception for wounded vfrs:laugh:

Jantar
8th October 2007, 23:30
...I do agree though that the writing skills of many UOA students' is pretty shocking, (2 years of tutoring at the place). And I am not perfect either: Did I get the apostrophe in the right place?

Umm, No you didn't. The apostrophe shows belonging as it replaces the "of". As you already used the word "of" there is no requirement for the apostrophe. (Primary school level literacy). An apostrophe would be required if you had worded the sentence "I do agree though that many UOA students' writing skills are pretty shocking."

motorbyclist
8th October 2007, 23:33
seriously, aslong as i can read it easily who cares?

it's just a bloody forum

xwhatsit
8th October 2007, 23:46
Seriously, as long as the exhaust system silences the engine, who cares if it's got rust all over it?

It's just a bloody motorbike.

motorbyclist
9th October 2007, 00:11
Seriously, as long as the exhaust system silences the engine, who cares if it's got rust all over it?

It's just a bloody motorbike.

yeah i reckon!


wait, that muffler didn't really silence it much... owell it sounded good:Punk: (and didn't rust either)

Squiggles
9th October 2007, 09:36
I do hope you are not studying architecture or graphic design.

hahahaha


Much better so far today, nobody has parked near the locker areas or even the gym, but the sci centre part is 1 bike off capacity :gob: its just the wall and by the door when it becomes intrusive

i see you've finally got yourself a racebike then chris :whistle:

bomma
9th October 2007, 12:58
hmmm so much for the ol codger being reasonable.....sent uni-patrol on the bikes down there and now they threatening to tow any bikes and scooters that are parked there.

looks like the cunt has fired the first shot so according to my rules of engagement, whatever we do now is only a reaction to the his initial attack....

anyone keen on a sit-in down there?? Thought there would be a bunch of outraged bikers down there when i showed up but all i saw was the r1 and a scooter so it was a pity.....cant tow the bikes if we're sittin on em :)

oh i feel like such a dirty hippy with this "passive resistance" crap!!!

what the hell is wrong with that wrinkled ol fart?!?! shud just follow him around till we figure out where he parks his car and draw some yellow lines where he parks and kindly draw it to the attention of a parking warden

HungusMaximist
9th October 2007, 13:24
^ There's two ways in solving this issue. I don't believe in passive resistance, you gotta get proactive and start being assertive.

One is to reason with him and reach a mutual agreement - doubt that will work unless you start getting some big shots from Uni

The other, starting a poster run around Uni with his picture on the front which informs students, lecturers, and motorcyclists of our plight and he is culprit behind all this shit.

Of course, the poster will be worded apporpiately but with conviction. The last thing we want is some defamation order, but then again it's used widely to scare people to keep their mouths shut.

I am backing whatever you decide to do. The more assertive/pro-active the approach is, the better!

motorbyclist
9th October 2007, 13:26
now is when we issue a letter of complaint addressed to auckland city council, the police, and the university talking about bike theft and secure parking

bomma
9th October 2007, 14:27
^ There's two ways in solving this issue. I don't believe in passive resistance, you gotta get proactive and start being assertive.

One is to reason with him and reach a mutual agreement - doubt that will work unless you start getting some big shots from Uni


yea i seriously doubt that he's keen to come to any mutually acceptable agreement....his major worry was "pedestrian inconvenience because bikes come in and out using that little passageway"....umm mate that is a fucking poor excuse, most peds dont mind takin one step sideways while we pass them at 5kph....how many peds j-walk across symonds st?? thats more than just an "inconvenience" to road-users and can cost lives....but you're not worried about that now are ya??



The other, starting a poster run around Uni with his picture on the front which informs students, lecturers, and motorcyclists of our plight and he is culprit behind all this shit.

Of course, the poster will be worded apporpiately but with conviction. The last thing we want is some defamation order, but then again it's used widely to scare people to keep their mouths shut.

this would be a good idea if done properly (legally)...good way to raise awareness to the issues of bike safety and the lack of safe bike parking....this is a very gay time for this prick to be pulling this stunt....probably waited till exams came around to make his move :P

boostin
9th October 2007, 14:49
I don't know the area, but is there any other way to get a bike in there other than over the footpath/ped area?

If that is his major concern then you can get rid of it by using another entrance?

Ragingrob
9th October 2007, 14:59
I don't know the area, but is there any other way to get a bike in there other than over the footpath/ped area?

If that is his major concern then you can get rid of it by using another entrance?

Yeah through the staff entrance from princes st I believe...Tell me if I'm wrong?

Squiggles
9th October 2007, 17:30
Staff entrance on princess st, i leave and enter thru there...

I very much doubt they'll be towing, towee's dont like to touch bikes with the huge chance of damage involved, plus they'd actually have to get to the bike first....

I'll see who i cant talk to at the uni about this, gotta say though that not much improvement was shown in parking from when the first encounter occured...


I suspect any discussion would most likely result in us being allowed to park by the sci center and next to gym but NOT along the wall or by the door to the lockers... thats a good compromise as, to be honest, we do block the path when we park along the wall and in the doorway area.

Anyhow, i shall see what i can find out tomorrow regarding this, brash actions wont get us anywhere right now. Will be a good chance to raise our problem of thieves on symonds and so forth :)

twinkle
9th October 2007, 17:44
I think he might find someone else to rant at too, and forget all about the bikes, if he hasn't already.

haha i guess i spoke too soon :whistle:

motorbyclist
9th October 2007, 20:42
I don't know the area, but is there any other way to get a bike in there other than over the footpath/ped area?

If that is his major concern then you can get rid of it by using another entrance?

lol you can access from alfred st - oh wait, we can't use alfred st or we wouldn't be in this situation to begin with!

bomma
9th October 2007, 23:12
Blah blah blah........Anyhow, i shall see what i can find out tomorrow regarding this, brash actions wont get us anywhere right now. Will be a good chance to raise our problem of thieves on symonds and so forth :)

whoa stevo you been hittin the peace pipe again ;)

good to have the voice of reason as our president.....stops us from being............us :2thumbsup

EDIT: bet you if dan was still el presidente he'd be rounding the troops for a protest or somethin!! :ar15:..........prolly more peaceful than :ar15: tho

twinkle
11th October 2007, 18:41
I hear that he is retiring.

bomma
12th October 2007, 15:39
^ if thats true then he's prolly tryna be as big a dickhead as possible before he leaves.....its probably what i'd do.....

if its not true then he's being a really big dick for no reason....mayb he's havin trubble gettin his pecker up in his old age....venting his frustration through other mediums

Squiggles
12th October 2007, 23:14
given theres a week left i wont risk antagonising the situation, as i feel it will be forgotten by next semester, if not we shall have a good ol debate

On that note i'm trying to contact the bicycle group (yer, theres one of them) about who they pestered to get the cage installed and so forth :) i found their website the other day