Tyres tearing

[FROSTY]

Whilst cleaning the KDX Ive noticed that the a lot of the knobs on the side of the tyres are part torn .
The tyres are shinko's
Is this situation normal or something to worry about.

[merv]

Normal if you've been roosting or riding hard on rocky ground or tree roots.

[FROSTY]

Thanks merv--tree roots--ahh yea splains it then

[Buddy L]

I also think its the brands of tyres as well.
Shinko's from what i have been told tend to tear.
I have never had a knob rip or tear.
I use Dunlops at the moment on all types of terrain, seem to hold together well.

[mxracer_nz]

I also think its the brands of tyres as well.
Shinko's from what i have been told tend to tear.
I have never had a knob rip or tear.
I use Dunlops at the moment on all types of terrain, seem to hold together well.

ya man ive always found shinkos pretty average.although a soft compound tyre being used on hard ground wont last long. dunlop and michelin seem last way longer, bridgestones ive found hook up best but do wear quicker and rip knobs on harder tracks.

[Danger]

My Shinko 540 sand tires have just started to do this, but they lasted along time if only used in sand. Sand tires are stiff from their nature. I've also had Michelin S12's spit the knobs of one side and they are terrible on hard terrain. Not sure why they are rated so highly, I find they are pretty fast wearing and too flexible for my liking.
I don't rate the Shinko mud tire too highly (525 and 524) they are also a stiff tire but too stiff for slick conditions. I wore the edge on the rear dramatically and tore a side wall on the front in one Riverhead ride. But the 540 is worth using in winter for sand riding, lots of grip and very confident lean angles. Just don't use it on hard surfaces because its not made for those.

Pirelli MT320's rears are an excellant tire to use on most terrains and even on the harder tracks as far as wear and on going grip go, they keep gripping even as the knobs wear and don't spit knobs like some tires do. Shame they stopped making them. I'm still trying to find a good replacement. I didn't like the MT320 front however, ok in sand (not as good as the 540 though) but it wanders around on harder terrain.

Interested in other peoples tire exerience's, always looking for different tires to try.

[Ixion]

Rocks, root, or hard braking on seal can all do that. Depends very muchly on the tyre. Nothing to worry about , except in so far as tyre life goes.

[Buddy L]

Dunlop Sports D742 Front
D746 Rear

Came standard on the bike and have only replace rear for summerX...
Alot of cornering grip from the front even on clay eg breaking hard mid corner on the fronts.
Rear seems to just grip every where

[Danger]

Yeah I've been using a worn D742 on the front and it seems to be gripping well on the hard tracks. The overseas mags are really ragging on the Dunlop D742A that seems to be coming out on a lot of bikes lately though.
The dunlops I have tried on the rear have worn the knobs edges very quickly as soon as you go over a few tree roots though and have provided disapointing life but I have not tried all in the range of course.

[cheese]

I've been loving my S12's I got them for the T100 last year and have lasted ages. THey are starting to look a bit stuffed now, but they have seen alot of rides adn on alot off differnt ground.

My bike also came with a dunlop and I'd rate that too. I'll probably get a dunlop rear next time cause the s12 is just too expensive (or is it that I'm too cheap???)

[warewolf]

I've also had Michelin S12's spit the knobs of one side and they are terrible on hard terrain. Not sure why they are rated so highly, I find they are pretty fast wearing and too flexible for my liking.
I don't rate the Shinko mud tire too highly (525 and 524) they are also a stiff tire but too stiff for slick conditions.Umm... so you say S12s are soft, don't like hard terrain, Shinkos are stiff and don't like mud.

S12s are a mud/soft tyre, so I'm not surprised they're terrible on hard terrain. :laugh: I've also heard that the more recent Asian-made ones are not as good as the older European-made ones. I found the S12 front to be diabolical in hard/gravel/boulders, nowhere near as good as the Dunlop D756 front.

A recommendation I've heard is M12 front with either M12 or S12 rear to suit the conditions. Did a winter ride last year with a couple of mates on Pirelli Scorpion Pro (I think, DOT tyre). At lower speeds my S12s were throwing sticky mud clear, the Pirellis weren't.

[telliman]

my pirelli;s did same thing up woodhill,two ride ardmour then tearing at woodhill, then peeled heaps off at kimies, never had a prob with the mitch ms32,s

[cheese]

The mitch MS32 are$150 a pop though

[GR81]

i was running shinkos front and rear and both tore.
running bridgestones currently.

[scott411]

i run michelin mh3's mostly, work good everywhere, and last really well, but been really patching on supply all year, now made in thailand so hope the are still just as good, not available in 18"

i think mt320's pirelli's are out of production now, they have a new trye called an xtra which i have had good reports about, i like pirelli mt32's (now midsoft 32's) but they do not last at all on hardpack, same goes with bidgestone m402's

used to love d742's in the front on hard pack, but they are hard to get to, don't like the 756's as much,

shinko's were great when they were yokohama 15 years ago, but they are pretty average now, 540's are great in mud and sand but average everywhere else,

[Ktmboy]

Shinko in the front and S12 on the back for most trail riding, but take it easy on the hard stuff as these are soft compound and will tear apart.

I rode a mates bike with a new S12 on the rear today and found that the side walls seemed really stiff from the European made model. Hope they (asian manufacturers)don't stuff up a really good tyre. And at $150 a tyre!!

[humai]

I remember the old Yokohama Superdigger 540s used to tear side knobs. Aren't the Shinkos similar?

These days, I use Bridgestone M59s on front and S12 rears. I have also had a good run using the M12 front/S12 rear combo.

[Ocean1]

S12s are a mud/soft tyre, so I'm not surprised they're terrible on hard terrain. :laugh: I've also heard that the more recent Asian-made ones are not as good as the older European-made ones. I found the S12 front to be diabolical in hard/gravel/boulders, nowhere near as good as the Dunlop D756 front.

I got that too, the S12 front will wander around something wicked in gravel, but most anything with soft compound and knobs that long is going to do that. I found once I got used to it they worked OK, but the M12 is probably a better compromise for summer. Me? I had trouble with the D756.



A recommendation I've heard is M12 front with either M12 or S12 rear to suit the conditions. Did a winter ride last year with a couple of mates on Pirelli Scorpion Pro (I think, DOT tyre). At lower speeds my S12s were throwing sticky mud clear, the Pirellis weren't.

I liked the S12 front with M12 or S12 rear for this area. Bigger bikes do seem to shred S12s locally though, even in winter because there's still a lot of big sharp rocks around.

[takitimu]

Bridgestone M40 on the back for me, they seem to be wearing pretty good on the hard stuff & when you hit mud they are just fantastic.

[jimmy 2006]

Bridgestone M40 on the back for me, they seem to be wearing pretty good on the hard stuff & when you hit mud they are just fantastic.

so, just to thread hijack. i need a new rear.
thinking of going for the Pirelli MX extra. i too have heard good things.
is there any other tyre that will compare for mid-hard riding? Ardmore/woodhill/dusty Mx races up in Mangatoroto/ CC races here and there?
as you can see i just want 1 tyre that will try to do it all and last for ages (:rolleyes:) i know this is not possible, but what is closest and i don't want to spend a hell of alot.

[Buddy L]

Go to see kerrie at moto-huas, next to motomail outlet (close to home).
He will sort you out, i got a v-rubber last time? lasted a while in most terrains. Kinda jack of all trades, master of none. cheap 90 dollars fitted.
100/90 19"

[Taz]

I remember the old Yokohama Superdigger 540s used to tear side knobs. Aren't the Shinkos similar?

These days, I use Bridgestone M59s on front and S12 rears. I have also had a good run using the M12 front/S12 rear combo.

Yokohama sold the molds to shinko when they ceased motorcycle tyre production. Yokohama made some great tyres. 540's were only made for mud and sand and anything harder would kill them.