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BANZAI
13th May 2008, 15:16
I rode GN back to my place today(With Stephen's escort) !!!!!!

It was so scary doing 80kmh on mortorway :rofl:

I wanna name it like what some of you guys do, but havent come up with yet and there's someone who named his GN250RR, so maybe I should call it GN250SS (It's Red too!! Red should go faster right?) :lol:

This is my TO DO and wish list for GN:

TO DO:
Tyres
EDIT: GASKETS
Oil&filter
Brake fluid
Other basic maintenance things it need (plug, air filter and what else?)

Wish list:
Straight Handle bar (must do lol)
Adjustable clutch lever(any Kawasaki's adjustable one will do)
Brighter but smaller tail-light
HID head light
Double side Exhaust :lol:
Bikini Cowl :p
and many many more...

Theres so much more to list but I will be broke after Tyres for while...

If the weather is fine I'm planning to goto Cycletreads on Thursday, can anyone escort me there????

I'm so happy right now, thanks to Jeremy(previous owner), Stephen&Hanne and rest of you in SMC and KB who helped me to get this bike!!!! You guys are :first:

Ofcource I'll try to ride it everyday and practice!!

Maverick
13th May 2008, 15:23
Congrats Banzai,
Its a great feeling ainnit? You will never forget your first bike.
When you get your confidence up and a bit of experiance under your tyres then come out on a 250 friendly ride sometime,
Keep it Shiny side up,

Mav :cool:

Phurrball
13th May 2008, 16:09
Yaaaay!

I like red bikes, but they're no good for me - people keep driving into me!!!

I look forward to seeing you on it Mr Banzai :scooter:

klyong82
13th May 2008, 17:57
I aint got a name for my current bike. Last blade was called Sheila....gonna be fun bro. Get your tyres sorted at Cyclethreads. Oil, filter and brake fluid can be done at Stevo's. Basically all the maintenance stuff can be done at Stevo's.

HID lights & twin exhaust?? haha that would be fun..

bomma
13th May 2008, 18:05
hurray for red!!! name her "speedy gonzales" or mary....haf fun riding bro...i might be able to skive off from uni stuff to give you a convoy to cycletreads depending on time....vibrate me on 021 119 5747 or pm me

and if you want parts i recommend that you bring a toolkit to uni and strip parts off james's gn...its the white one with heated handgrips and the hand-guard :2thumbsup

Macstar
13th May 2008, 19:30
Step 1 - Sell GN and buy a 250 Hornet












Just kidding mate

klyong82
13th May 2008, 19:54
Step 2

Buy my Fireblade so that I can upgrade to a 07 Repsol






I aint joking about this...

Chrislost
13th May 2008, 20:54
hurray for red!!! name her "speedy gonzales"

do not, do not i repeat, do not name it speedy gonzales....


i will mistake you for that cunt who called himself that...(then rear ended me)


ive always wanted to take a GN to a track...
would be funny to see peoples faces eh!

Chrislost
13th May 2008, 21:16
if you want good tyres get BT45s

much stickyness and last for ever...
plus they are good in the wet/cold/dry/track/./././

ohh and they squeal when you hit the spot

HungusMaximist
13th May 2008, 22:03
I could escort you in the afternoon or early morning, but I'll have a hard time doing anything below 65 km/h and going slow only burns my petrol faster!

Bomma or Steveo will be your best bet.

BANZAI
13th May 2008, 22:06
do not, do not i repeat, do not name it speedy gonzales....

i will mistake you for that cunt who called himself that...(then rear ended me)

ive always wanted to take a GN to a track...
would be funny to see peoples faces eh!

if you want good tyres get BT45s

much stickyness and last for ever...
plus they are good in the wet/cold/dry/track/./././

ohh and they squeal when you hit the spot

Who's that? and what is gonzales...... And I reckon its "she", but she could stay as GN250SS (might make custom "SS" decal and stick it to side covers!)

Yea I want GN cafe racer someday (when I have money) I'm sure it's gonna be magazine featured!!! :p

Cycletreads guy told me they got bridgestones so must be that tyre I guess? Do they make BT45s for GN???

BANZAI
13th May 2008, 22:08
I could escort you in the afternoon or early morning, but I'll have a hard time doing anything below 65 km/h and going slow only burns my petrol faster!

Bomma or Steveo will be your best bet.

I can do 90km/h...:baby:

shingo
13th May 2008, 22:09
if you want good tyres get BT45s

much stickyness and last for ever...
plus they are good in the wet/cold/dry/track/./././

ohh and they squeal when you hit the spot

That's good to hear, they were most likely going to be my next set of tyres for my vtr.

BANZAI
13th May 2008, 22:58
Bomma's free from 10:30-2pm, and its good time for me as well. Anyone keen to visit Cycletreads with me?

motorbyclist
14th May 2008, 00:16
TO DO:
Tyres
Oil&filter
Brake fluid
Other basic maintenance things it need (plug, air filter and what else?)

yes, do do!


Wish list:
Straight Handle bar (must do lol)
Adjustable clutch lever(any Kawasaki's adjustable one will do)
Brighter but smaller tail-light
HID head light
Double side Exhaust :lol:
Bikini Cowl :p
and many many more...

neons
chrome EVERYTHING
lowered and hydraulics
spoilers
RR stickers EVERYWHERE
a PS3, Xbox360 and huge LCD screen that all folds out from under the pillion seat
amps and subwoofers
replace petrol tank with an aquarium
carbon fibre mudguard for weight reduction (remember to chrome)
pink tassles from the bar ends


now i hate to kill your buzz a bit, but maybe wait a few months and/or get a few hundred Kms under your belt first.... i'd hate to see a "just scratched/crushed my shiny new exhaust, broke my lights and clutch lever, bent my handlebars, buggered my fairings, and basically wrote the bike off when i *insert basic newbie stuff up SMC learners always manage to do here*" thread (just ask dushi, plus even stephen manages to crash his GN from time to time - ruining my new helmet in the process)

i'm especially saying this as you've bought a "weekend warrior" bike, that is, you will only get to learn how to ride on weekends while pushing your limit rather than slowly while commuting every day (and learning how to manage traffic when you're on a seemingly invisible bike)

so after you've done the neccessary mechanical work and actually learnt how to ride the thing, then we look at turbochargin' the ginny:niceone:

how does "SUZUKI GN250turbo" sound?:cool:

BANZAI
14th May 2008, 06:26
now i hate to kill your buzz a bit, but maybe wait a few months and/or get a few hundred Kms under your belt first.... i'd hate to see a "just scratched/crushed my shiny new exhaust, broke my lights and clutch lever, bent my handlebars, buggered my fairings, and basically wrote the bike off when i *insert basic newbie stuff up SMC learners always manage to do here*" thread (just ask dushi, plus even stephen manages to crash his GN from time to time - ruining my new helmet in the process)

how does "SUZUKI GN250turbo" sound?:cool:

True that... I rode it little bit this morning and it was still scary.... those parts are not necessary, except the handle bars! (those shape of handlebars are hard to control than straighter ones aren't they?)

I'm gonna check what Dushy posted now :p

One more mechanical thing.

GASKETS.

Stephen is searching cheap one at the moment(some shop told me $120 for full set!!)

Howabout GN250SSR-t:ride:

BANZAI
14th May 2008, 11:11
Bomma's free from 10:30-2pm, and its good time for me as well. Anyone keen to visit Cycletreads with me?

He's actually free after 2:30pm.

How bout you guys???

klyong82
14th May 2008, 11:30
I could escort you in the afternoon or early morning, but I'll have a hard time doing anything below 65 km/h and going slow only burns my petrol faster!

Man just seems like you are having such a hard time getting used to riding a CBR Fireblade Ewen...I think it is a priviledge in been able to own a litre bike and to be able to ride. Toughen up and learn to control that throttle and you will have a blast with the bike.


True that... I rode it little bit this morning and it was still scary.... those parts are not necessary, except the handle bars! (those shape of handlebars are hard to control than straighter ones aren't they?)

I'm gonna check what Dushy posted now :p

One more mechanical thing.

GASKETS.

Stephen is searching cheap one at the moment(some shop told me $120 for full set!!)

Howabout GN250SSR-t:ride:

Why not call it a GN250-SC44?

bomma
14th May 2008, 11:36
He's actually free after 2:30pm.

How bout you guys???

haha hey yuichiro im actually free after 2pm but 2.30's fine....gives me time to peruse cycletreads before i have to make a mad dash to work at 4.30 :clap:

this is a bit deja-vu for me coz im sure i posted up on this like 20mins ago....hmm a glitch in the matrix mayhaps?? *looks around for the creepy dude with slick hair in the black suit and shades with similarly clothed croanies* :shifty:

HungusMaximist
14th May 2008, 12:12
Man just seems like you are having such a hard time getting used to riding a CBR Fireblade Ewen...I think it is a priviledge in been able to own a litre bike and to be able to ride. Toughen up and learn to control that throttle and you will have a blast with the bike.


You're right about the previlege part but since I chucked in (Power Commander) PC II it's been snatchy down low between 3500 revs in second and third gear, similar to what Issac felt when he chucked the PC III on his bike.

The theory is, the bike is actually running lean so it chugs forward a bit when I am cruising smooth open throttle at around 3.5 k revs and disappears after you hit 3.6/3.7/4 k revs.

I think It's a standard flat spot for the 929 but then again I reckon when you get the time this or next week, have a ride and see what you think.

I am yet to switch the fuel injector back to factory standard and check what difference it makes as all this time I've been riding with the PC on, and still have to fiddle with the mapping program on my laptop!

Other thing is I don't exactly want to pay $300 to be Dyno, it's something that isn't a priority right now. Although I did manage to meet Geoff on KB who lives in Mission Bay who is a engineer by profession and he built his own Dyno and stores it down in a farm in Ramarama.

I'll take it down when the time is right.

Sorry to Hijack your thread Banzai! :banana:
.

HungusMaximist
14th May 2008, 12:18
True that... I rode it little bit this morning and it was still scary.... those parts are not necessary, except the handle bars! (those shape of handlebars are hard to control than straighter ones aren't they?)



+1 both on Andrew and yourself!

Learn the lesson that your ego is doing the talking most of the time, bling doesn't make you ride better and only get what's necessary!

Read up on riding techniques, attending courses, go out riding and hit some practice by yourself will give wayyy better return than bike bling!

But don't let me stop ya from spending but it's good to know the priorities!

BANZAI
14th May 2008, 14:05
Why not call it a GN250-SC44?

Whats it stands for??



Other thing is I don't exactly want to pay $300 to be Dyno, it's something that isn't a priority right now. Although I did manage to meet Geoff on KB who lives in Mission Bay who is a engineer by profession and he built his own Dyno and stores it down in a farm in Ramarama.

I'll take it down when the time is right.

Sorry to Hijack your thread Banzai! :banana:
.

Its ok! Can I go with you to put my GN on Dyno as well? :p


Yea it's good to have good gears but practice makes perfect in everything! (so as in Violin playing, but I'm so lazy at the moment :p)


Altho I find mirror is too close to me, so hard to see whats in my back... I diffinitely do need straight handlebars!!!

According to metservice there will be few showers today(which there were) but will be sunnny tomorrow.... Hope all clouds go away by this evening!

Choco
14th May 2008, 14:08
there's someone who named his GN250RR, so maybe I should call it GN250SS (It's Red too!! Red should go faster right?) :lol:

:2thumbsup
Mine's the one with the RR (coz it's super special)
Can't wait to see the final product, should be awesome!:rockon:

klyong82
14th May 2008, 14:58
You're right about the previlege part but since I chucked in (Power Commander) PC II it's been snatchy down low between 3500 revs in second and third gear, similar to what Issac felt when he chucked the PC III on his bike.

The theory is, the bike is actually running lean so it chugs forward a bit when I am cruising smooth open throttle at around 3.5 k revs and disappears after you hit 3.6/3.7/4 k revs.

I think It's a standard flat spot for the 929 but then again I reckon when you get the time this or next week, have a ride and see what you think.

I am yet to switch the fuel injector back to factory standard and check what difference it makes as all this time I've been riding with the PC on, and still have to fiddle with the mapping program on my laptop!

Other thing is I don't exactly want to pay $300 to be Dyno, it's something that isn't a priority right now. Although I did manage to meet Geoff on KB who lives in Mission Bay who is a engineer by profession and he built his own Dyno and stores it down in a farm in Ramarama.

I'll take it down when the time is right.

Sorry to Hijack your thread Banzai! :banana:
.

Well I aint got a power commander on my bike but I know it is running rich no problems...I do get a sort of chucking on my 929 too when commuting but I have had that across all my Fireblades...well I suppose getting it remap would be the only way to go mate to smooth it all out.

Macstar
14th May 2008, 16:19
Well I aint got a power commander on my bike but I know it is running rich no problems...I do get a sort of chucking on my 929 too when commuting but I have had that across all my Fireblades...well I suppose getting it remap would be the only way to go mate to smooth it all out.

PCIII with a dyno and my baby is smooth as............. no running lean or rich.

2wheeljunkie
14th May 2008, 22:43
yes, do do!



now i hate to kill your buzz a bit, but maybe wait a few months and/or get a few hundred Kms under your belt first.... i'd hate to see a "just scratched/crushed my shiny new exhaust, broke my lights and clutch lever, bent my handlebars, buggered my fairings, and basically wrote the bike off when i *insert basic newbie stuff up SMC learners always manage to do here*" thread (just ask dushi, plus even stephen manages to crash his GN from time to time - ruining my new helmet in the process)

i'm especially saying this as you've bought a "weekend warrior" bike, that is, you will only get to learn how to ride on weekends while pushing your limit rather than slowly while commuting every day (and learning how to manage traffic when you're on a seemingly invisible bike)

so after you've done the neccessary mechanical work and actually learnt how to ride the thing, then we look at turbochargin' the ginny:niceone:

how does "SUZUKI GN250turbo" sound?:cool:

couldnt have said it better mate...:headbang:.congratz on the new gn banzai...:woohoo:.what time u wanna go to cycletreads again..i might be free..i got class till 10 then a break till 1...u good for then ???

motorbyclist
14th May 2008, 22:44
True that... I rode it little bit this morning and it was still scary.... those parts are not necessary, except the handle bars! (those shape of handlebars are hard to control than straighter ones aren't they?)

oh well fair enough

just i'd hate to see some shiny new mufflers ruined! (thinking on isaacs latest misfortune)

rie
14th May 2008, 22:53
Altho I find mirror is too close to me, so hard to see whats in my back... I diffinitely do need straight handlebars!!!



you can get used to just about anything. play to the conditions. you can use the extra money for sweet gear later.

good on you for taking the gn out in the morning. there's a trick to tripping the wires at the lights hey :)

BANZAI
14th May 2008, 22:54
2:20pm in front of Uni Gym for Cycletreads!!!! Hope see you guys there!

2wheeljunkie
14th May 2008, 22:56
hermm i think i shud be sweet for that ehh..dunt think i have any classes..sweet deall..

motorbyclist
14th May 2008, 23:05
Well I aint got a power commander on my bike but I know it is running rich no problems...I do get a sort of chucking on my 929 too when commuting but I have had that across all my Fireblades...well I suppose getting it remap would be the only way to go mate to smooth it all out.

have you guys considered using a lower gear to keep the revs up in a smoother power region of your rev ranges?

2wheeljunkie
14th May 2008, 23:15
have you guys considered using a lower gear to keep the revs up in a smoother power region of your rev ranges?

dont think there is a gear lower than 1st gear andrew..unless the 929 has a -1 gear..like some trucks have just low torque gears for those sticky situations..not sure what their called..sure pocketcracker will know..

motorbyclist
14th May 2008, 23:27
well either it's jumpy cause they're cruising in top gear and it's revving too low so surging and sputtering, or they're going in 1st gear at high(ish) revs and have too much power available making it twitchy, in which case they should move up a gear or 5

the reason we have gearboxes is to allow us a degree of control over the power output at a given speed, so to use one gear only and complain the engine isn't behaving seems a bit silly

EDIT: gearboxes also help give a higher top end when the engine redlines, and have obvious fuel economy/engine abuse advantages

pocketcracker
14th May 2008, 23:34
that would be a split gear knowen as a creeper gear , cutting the low range 1st gear in half ! Man now i feel like a nerd ! But a nerd wid a big truck and a sxy fast bike ! HEHEHEHHE , keep the good work up banzi and rember always protect ya winker !

ital916
15th May 2008, 06:40
that would be a split gear knowen as a creeper gear , cutting the low range 1st gear in half ! Man now i feel like a nerd ! But a nerd wid a big truck and a sxy fast bike ! HEHEHEHHE , keep the good work up banzi and rember always protect ya winker !

Yeah bud, you're fucked if you break your winker, you girlfriend would be devastated, she would have to do pocketcracker cos of all the grief haha

klyong82
15th May 2008, 08:09
have you guys considered using a lower gear to keep the revs up in a smoother power region of your rev ranges?

Well I can easily cruise with 2nd and 3rd gear ...without issues used to be able to just cruise with 3rd before chucking the aftermarket exhaust. No it flys on pretty much any gear. Like I said has happen to all 3 of my Fireblades. Must be something about ex-suzuki riders been used to explosive throttle power then switching to a Honda. Wait to you hit 6000rpm on the blade and the bike flys....


well either it's jumpy cause they're cruising in top gear and it's revving too low so surging and sputtering, or they're going in 1st gear at high(ish) revs and have too much power available making it twitchy, in which case they should move up a gear or 5

the reason we have gearboxes is to allow us a degree of control over the power output at a given speed, so to use one gear only and complain the engine isn't behaving seems a bit silly

EDIT: gearboxes also help give a higher top end when the engine redlines, and have obvious fuel economy/engine abuse advantages

I think in Ewen case it is jumpy as I have riden on it before just felt the same as my bike. I truly think that it is all the way we ride the bike....agreed with Andrew that one just need to adjust to the appropriate gear when riding. Surely not all gears are exhibiting the same problem. My bike has done twice the amount of k's than Ewen's and I dont seem to have a problem with such a wonderful bike.....since I am saying so many nice things about the 929...anyone wanna buy my bike so that I can buy a Repsol? anybody?

BANZAI
15th May 2008, 08:52
Didn't reply to some of the posts yesterday...


:2thumbsup
Mine's the one with the RR (coz it's super special)
Can't wait to see the final product, should be awesome!:rockon:

You must be the Legendary GN Rider!! lol
Please teach me the force of GN, Master :ride:


you can get used to just about anything. play to the conditions. you can use the extra money for sweet gear later.

good on you for taking the gn out in the morning. there's a trick to tripping the wires at the lights hey :)

I want gears, I want blings... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :p


that would be a split gear knowen as a creeper gear , cutting the low range 1st gear in half ! Man now i feel like a nerd ! But a nerd wid a big truck and a sxy fast bike ! HEHEHEHHE , keep the good work up banzi and rember always protect ya winker !

Ah Mr.Pocketcracker! How is "winker" of your gixxer?

And Kim or Ewen should make CBR929 thread :p

Weather looks good, if you guys are free see you in front of Gym at 2pm-2:20pm!!!

klyong82
15th May 2008, 10:01
And Kim or Ewen should make CBR929 thread :p

Weather looks good, if you guys are free see you in front of Gym at 2pm-2:20pm!!!

I think there will only be 2 of us with a 929...bikes like that are very rare....

Choco
15th May 2008, 16:06
You must be the Legendary GN Rider!! lol
Please teach me the force of GN, Master :ride:



First you must become one with your GN. :mellow:

Sit on your bike and contemplate the meaning of being a rider, feel the what the bike is trying to tell you and learn it's personality. Once you have centered yourself, then you may start the bike.

Then you must go on lengthy group rides with all your KB buddies and learn the true meaning of freedom. :yes:

Squiggles
15th May 2008, 16:17
I'd suggest rather than just hooning out there on a few rides that you spend a fair bit of time going slow, riding round cones in empty car parks and learning to control the bike smoothly at low speed, then a bit more around town riding, then a bit of open road with 1 or 2 others.... If you want to do some round cones riding and stuff you can join hanne's sister as she practises for her BHS

BANZAI
15th May 2008, 19:38
First you must become one with your GN. :mellow:

Sit on your bike and contemplate the meaning of being a rider, feel the what the bike is trying to tell you and learn it's personality. Once you have centered yourself, then you may start the bike.

Then you must go on lengthy group rides with all your KB buddies and learn the true meaning of freedom. :yes:

I'd suggest rather than just hooning out there on a few rides that you spend a fair bit of time going slow, riding round cones in empty car parks and learning to control the bike smoothly at low speed, then a bit more around town riding, then a bit of open road with 1 or 2 others.... If you want to do some round cones riding and stuff you can join hanne's sister as she practises for her BHS

Thanks for the advice! I need both of them! When is Hanne's sister gonna do practice? Anytime soon?



THANKS HEAPS to Bomma for guiding me to cycletreads and back and guys at cycletreads to sort out new tyres for me!! :first::2thumbsup

There wasnt any matching tyre so I got

Rear- IRC RS310 for $109

and then....

FRONT "PIRELLI" CITY DEMON!!! $85 :D

I learnt lots today by going through the harbour bridge...:

-make sure the fuel lever is "on"
while I was waiting for Bomma I turened it off coz from my google searching parking for more than 20mins should turn the lever off. Forgot to turn it on and then stuck before entering motorway :o
(thanks to Lime green Kawasaki guy who stopped for me to make sure I was allright!)

-Hill start is f**king difficult.
It's just so hard! Stupid Auckland have so many hills and I have to keep holding the rear-brake while Tip-toeing with my right foot, then gotta worry about clutch and throttle! It's not nice!!! :angry:

-Right gear for right pace, corner etc...
Still finding it hard to find which gear is right for which situation...

-Crazy car drivers!
They try to cut lanes whenever they want to! I'm here! Can't you see me!!!???

-Bridge is so windy!
It is! Gotta duck down to tank, otherwise I'll get blown away :lol:

-I do need Straight handle bar!!
I just need it, the bar is too close I think!

-Dushy got new cool ride!!!
He got a new ride for his girlfriends. One in his lap and rest in the rear box...

motorbyclist
15th May 2008, 19:39
I'd suggest rather than just hooning out there on a few rides that you spend a fair bit of time going slow, riding round cones in empty car parks and learning to control the bike smoothly at low speed, then a bit more around town riding, then a bit of open road with 1 or 2 others.... If you want to do some round cones riding and stuff you can join hanne's sister as she practises for her BHS

seconded:)

motorbyclist
15th May 2008, 19:56
omg

PROTIPS:



I learnt lots today by going through the harbour bridge...:

-make sure the fuel lever is "on"
while I was waiting for Bomma I turened it off coz from my google searching parking for more than 20mins should turn the lever off. Forgot to turn it on and then stuck before entering motorway :o
(thanks to Lime green Kawasaki guy who stopped for me to make sure I was allright!)

dude, seriously, don't bother turning it off. it isn't neccessary. maybe when you park up for the day/night you should bother, but it's only to stop water coalescing and sinking into your carbies (which takes much more than 20 minutes) and make life difficult for theives

-Hill start is f**king difficult.
It's just so hard! Stupid Auckland have so many hills and I have to keep holding the rear-brake while Tip-toeing with my right foot, then gotta worry about clutch and throttle! It's not nice!!! :angry:

remember the front brake! how do you hill start a car? you use the handbrake: same for a bike. use front brake, slowly let out clutch till bike starts pushing against the front (bike will rise slightly) and let off the front brake. you'll start moving every time no problem. after a while you'll get so smooth you can use the clutch to hold yourself on a hill anyway (ten guesses why my clutch is wearing out)

-Right gear for right pace, corner etc...
Still finding it hard to find which gear is right for which situation...

whatever you do don't change while turning unless you have to; the sudden jolt on the rear wheel can cause it to skid, and then it's bye-bye to your crash-free record

-Crazy car drivers!
They try to cut lanes whenever they want to! I'm here! Can't you see me!!!???

no they can't. assume they're blind and retarded. most of them are.



EDIT:

jsut saw the pics;

remember new tyres are very slippery for the first hundred km or so

your L licence limits you to 70kph - that means no motorway riding and for good reason too. if you go do over 80kph with the L plate showing you can expect a ticket. plus you won't be insured in an accident as you're breaking the terms of your licence

BANZAI
15th May 2008, 20:20
jsut saw the pics;

remember new tyres are very slippery for the first hundred km or so

your L licence limits you to 70kph - that means no motorway riding and for good reason too. if you go do over 80kph with the L plate showing you can expect a ticket. plus you won't be insured in an accident as you're breaking the terms of your licence

Oh... :Oops:

I'll stay away from motorway for time being!(please don't report to cops about today :p)

Yea I need to get wax off from new tyres...


One more thing, I need boots! My chucks high-cut gets hot when engines get hot, need thicker boots!!!

EDIT:1 more thing to say!

Dushy and Nish was taking piss out of me, and Nish told me its ok, but if I drop the helmet from my waist hight do I need to replace it??

PirateJafa
15th May 2008, 20:39
your L licence limits you to 70kph - that means no motorway riding and for good reason too. if you go do over 80kph with the L plate showing you can expect a ticket. plus you won't be insured in an accident as you're breaking the terms of your licence

Haven't seen a single cop enforcing that yet.

Insurance is important. Remember, in a accident you were not doing over 70/pulling a wheelie/etc.

Macstar
15th May 2008, 20:51
Haven't seen a single cop enforcing that yet.

Insurance is important. Remember, in a accident you were not doing over 70/pulling a wheelie/etc.

That's solid advice there mate

ital916
15th May 2008, 21:08
Oh... :Oops:

I'll stay away from motorway for time being!(please don't report to cops about today :p)

Yea I need to get wax off from new tyres...


One more thing, I need boots! My chucks high-cut gets hot when engines get hot, need thicker boots!!!

EDIT:1 more thing to say!

Dushy and Nish was taking piss out of me, and Nish told me its ok, but if I drop the helmet from my waist hight do I need to replace it??

I wasn't taking the piss, you dropped your helmet once of the rear seat on your gn and then proceded to drop it again from above waist height in front of nish and me, get a new helmet, you have only one head bud, protect it. Don't ride in trainers, I know stephen does but i'll have a talk to him about that. lol

BANZAI
15th May 2008, 22:54
I wasn't taking the piss, you dropped your helmet once of the rear seat on your gn and then proceded to drop it again from above waist height in front of nish and me, get a new helmet, you have only one head bud, protect it. Don't ride in trainers, I know stephen does but i'll have a talk to him about that. lol

Hmmmmmm then can I order same model but Silver one???

If you get them, I'll buy it.

bomma
15th May 2008, 23:01
I wasn't taking the piss, you dropped your helmet once of the rear seat on your gn and then proceded to drop it again from above waist height in front of nish and me, get a new helmet, you have only one head bud, protect it. Don't ride in trainers, I know stephen does but i'll have a talk to him about that. lol

in all seriousness and in most other cases i would side with ya on thsi one dush, but with the type of riding that banzai's gonna be doing, i personally dont think he needs to replace his helmet.....my 2 paisas

motorbyclist
16th May 2008, 00:10
Dushy and Nish was taking piss out of me, and Nish told me its ok, but if I drop the helmet from my waist hight do I need to replace it??

technically, yes. they absorb impact by breaking, and you just fractured it, lessening it's effectiveness in an accident

but in practice, not just yet - you're likely to just drop it again. soon you'll learn how to keep a hold of it and put it where it can't fall (on the ground or on the end of your handlebar).

so keep this in mind and buy a new helmet after a few more inevitable drops. always buy a new helmet after an accident if you hit your head on the ground. i do hope you didn't spend more than $130 on that helmet:(

i remember the first time i came off on my learners - felt the helmet squish around my head!


Haven't seen a single cop enforcing that yet.


i have

infact, just a few weeks ago my mate got a rather hefty fine to pay for both no L plate AND exceeding 70kph... can't remember why he got pulled over though

PirateJafa
16th May 2008, 05:08
infact, just a few weeks ago my mate got a rather hefty fine to pay for both no L plate AND exceeding 70kph... can't remember why he got pulled over though

Yes, but there it was a coombination of breaking a couple of riles, plus whatever he'd been doing to get pulled over in the first place.

Doing 100km/h with your L-plate on the back you should be safe, unless the cop really wants to nail you for something. :)

BANZAI
16th May 2008, 07:20
technically, yes. they absorb impact by breaking, and you just fractured it, lessening it's effectiveness in an accident

but in practice, not just yet - you're likely to just drop it again. soon you'll learn how to keep a hold of it and put it where it can't fall (on the ground or on the end of your handlebar).

so keep this in mind and buy a new helmet after a few more inevitable drops. always buy a new helmet after an accident if you hit your head on the ground. i do hope you didn't spend more than $130 on that helmet:(

i remember the first time i came off on my learners - felt the helmet squish around my head!


It was $120. I gotta pray everytime before I go riding that I won't crash then :lol:

BANZAI
16th May 2008, 15:29
Hey was looking at xerxesdaphat's photos just now.

Clip-ons looks so cool!!!!

What are the cons and pros of them? How much do they cost? Are they hard to handle for beginners??

GN classic racer style :drool:

EDIT: From chiller tonight, clipons not good for GN (unless I put backstep kit lol)

Howbout this? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=155674142&permanent=0

motorbyclist
16th May 2008, 21:39
a bit wide? try one of stephen's DR bars to see what it's like before buying

xwhatsit
16th May 2008, 21:50
Hey was looking at xerxesdaphat's photos just now.

Clip-ons looks so cool!!!!

What are the cons and pros of them? How much do they cost? Are they hard to handle for beginners??

GN classic racer style :drool:

EDIT: From chiller tonight, clipons not good for GN (unless I put backstep kit lol)

Howbout this? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=155674142&permanent=0
Why? No? No need for back-step (or rear-sets as we say in English) with clip-ons; GN ones aren't so far out that they make it too horrible.

I've already seen one GN with clip-ons it; the trick is, to put them on top of the top yoke, therefore dropping the front end slightly too (in order to get enough room above the yoke to fit them). GNs have far too much rake stock anyway.

Don't listen to people at the Chiller, they all ride silly modern sportsbikes and have no idea about proper café racer ergonomics :D Take a look at photos of early Gold Star DBD34 racers, see where their feet are.

BANZAI
16th May 2008, 22:06
Why? No? No need for back-step (or rear-sets as we say in English) with clip-ons; GN ones aren't so far out that they make it too horrible.

I've already seen one GN with clip-ons it; the trick is, to put them on top of the top yoke, therefore dropping the front end slightly too (in order to get enough room above the yoke to fit them). GNs have far too much rake stock anyway.

Don't listen to people at the Chiller, they all ride silly modern sportsbikes and have no idea about proper café racer ergonomics :D Take a look at photos of early Gold Star DBD34 racers, see where their feet are.

Top yoke is where the top of folk is?? What is rake stock??

BSA GOLD STAR!!! Soooooo cooooooooooll!!!!!
http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=ja&q=Gold+Star+DBD34&btnG=%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E6%A4%9C %E7%B4%A2&gbv=2

That's what I want my GN to look like! :p
It does look like pedals are slightly at back than GN's but I'm short so probly don't have to worry too much about it muhahahaha

Hmmmmm I WANT CLIP-ONS :drool:

motorbyclist
16th May 2008, 23:54
LOL japanese google

xwhatsit
17th May 2008, 00:02
Top yoke is where the top of folk is?? What is rake stock??

BSA GOLD STAR!!! Soooooo cooooooooooll!!!!!
http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=ja&q=Gold+Star+DBD34&btnG=%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E6%A4%9C %E7%B4%A2&gbv=2

That's what I want my GN to look like! :p
It does look like pedals are slightly at back than GN's but I'm short so probly don't have to worry too much about it muhahahaha

Hmmmmm I WANT CLIP-ONS :drool:Heheh I want a Goldie too mate :D

The yokes are also known in American English as triple clamps; they are the two flat clamps that join the forks to the frame. The top yoke is the one on top -- on your bike, this is what the handlebars attach to.

Rake is the angle the forks are on. GN250 is sort of baby-cruiser style, so it has a large rake -- the forks are on a big angle. This makes it turn slow and handle like a pig.

Clip-ons can either go below the top yoke (more normal cafe racer style) or on top. You'll probably want the clip-ons on top; this is so the bars aren't too low and the ergonomics are good with respect to the pegs. In order to put the clip-ons on top of the yoke, the forks will have to come up through the yokes so there's fork sticking out the top to clamp to. This will decrease rake (and lower front end), making it turn faster. It can also make it unstable, but the GNs I've seen like this, nobody has reported any problems like tank-slappers or anything.

motorbyclist
17th May 2008, 00:35
In order to put the clip-ons on top of the yoke, the forks will have to come up through the yokes so there's fork sticking out the top to clamp to. This will decrease rake (and lower front end), making it turn faster. It can also make it unstable, but the GNs I've seen like this, nobody has reported any problems like tank-slappers or anything.

you reckon?

being one of the sprotsbike guys at the chiller i was thinking of just normal clip-ons under the tripleclamp(:p), which of course wouldn't really work so well on a GN where you aren't leaning forward at all.... with banzai's height/size he's already having trouble reaching the bars so putting them further out of reach seems a bit silly....

will post up later today with a photo or something

BANZAI
17th May 2008, 06:43
with banzai's height/size he's already having trouble reaching the bars so putting them further out of reach seems a bit silly....

I can reach bars!!! It's even too close for me!! Its the levers I cant reach!:angry:

Ask Nish and Dushy abou that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckTCBUJNM0A&feature=related
From GN cafe racer thread, this one puts handlebars upsidedown. Wonder which handle his using????

xwhatsit
17th May 2008, 12:54
you reckon?

being one of the sprotsbike guys at the chiller i was thinking of just normal clip-ons under the tripleclamp(:p), which of course wouldn't really work so well on a GN where you aren't leaning forward at all.... with banzai's height/size he's already having trouble reaching the bars so putting them further out of reach seems a bit silly....

will post up later today with a photo or something
Further improving the position by putting the clip-ons on top, because you're lowering the front end to get enough fork to clamp on, you're changing the stance (tilting the bike forward) a bit. Not drastic, but it did make a difference when I did it with my bike (CB250RS pegs are also fairly conservative, still want rearsets, but that's only for clearance and comfort on long bits of motorway).

Because I'm real hard bastard, now I've got the bars under the yoke, but the front end is still lowered (although not quite as much, BT45 90/90-18 on the front improved turn-in to an acceptable level).

motorbyclist
17th May 2008, 16:29
yeah after seeing him ride today, i think clip-ons would be fine

BANZAI
18th May 2008, 10:36
Clubmanbars are my bet. Clubman probly suits better than clipons on GN.

Youtube cafe racer guy got it from e-bay, but it's gonna be expensive to ship. I'm sure I can find something like that in NZ...

http://search.ebay.com.au/clubman-bar_W0QQdfspZ1QQflocZ1QQfromZR40QQsaslcZ2QQsbrexpZ WD2SQQssPageNameZWD2SQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122

EDIT: $50 budget for clubmanbars!!! preferbly new from shop :)

xwhatsit
18th May 2008, 12:13
There's a couple of drawbacks with clubman bars which stopped me using them; first, they will get in the way of you lowering the front end, so you're stuck with the long rake and slow turning. Secondly, they're fixed and unadjustable; you can move clip-ons up and down the fork, rotate them forward and back until you find the most comfortable position. With clubman bars, you're kind of stuck with the height you get.

Give it a shot, though, bars are cheap, so if they don't suit then it's not too much money to worry about.

BANZAI
18th May 2008, 12:23
There's a couple of drawbacks with clubman bars which stopped me using them; first, they will get in the way of you lowering the front end, so you're stuck with the long rake and slow turning. Secondly, they're fixed and unadjustable; you can move clip-ons up and down the fork, rotate them forward and back until you find the most comfortable position. With clubman bars, you're kind of stuck with the height you get.

Give it a shot, though, bars are cheap, so if they don't suit then it's not too much money to worry about.

Yea I'll go shopping when I get paid! :p

I've found this
http://www.bywong.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=65

Tankslapper on GN???? Does steering dumper necessary? Kinda scary after watching this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvVv_zbOjk

xwhatsit
18th May 2008, 12:32
Tank slapper -- hugely unlikely, given the degree you're lowering the forks. The GN starts out with massive rake. My little CB has much less rake to begin with, yet dropping the front-end significantly has not caused any front end instability. Different bikes, I know, but those I know who've done things like this to their GNs haven't mentioned anything like that.

On a small bike at 120kph, more likely to get a weave than a crazy tank slapper like that.

bomma
18th May 2008, 22:51
Yea I'll go shopping when I get paid! :p

I've found this
http://www.bywong.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=65

Tankslapper on GN???? Does steering dumper necessary? Kinda scary after watching this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvVv_zbOjk

:rofl:

10char

HungusMaximist
19th May 2008, 11:02
All I can say, I look forward in riding with ya on your first big ride Yugi!

You'll have so much farken fun and hopefully you won't piss your pants!

Har har har!

Ragingrob
19th May 2008, 11:05
All I can say, I look forward in riding with ya on your first big ride Yugi!

You'll have so much farken fun and hopefully you won't piss your pants!

Har har har!

Keen for friday mate?

BANZAI
19th May 2008, 21:14
Anyone keen for shopping to Haldanes this Saturday after 2:30pm? (if they are open)

Sunday morning if they are open, but the website don't tell me when they open....

shingo
19th May 2008, 21:40
Anyone keen for shopping to Haldanes this Saturday after 2:30pm? (if they are open)

Sunday morning if they are open, but the website don't tell me when they open....

Most bike shops shut around midday and virtually none are open on sunday (cycletreads being the only exception i know of).

BANZAI
19th May 2008, 21:42
Hmm howbout 4pm onwards on Thursday?? Some shops open till late on Thursday isn't it?

shingo
19th May 2008, 21:52
Hmm howbout 4pm onwards on Thursday?? Some shops open till late on Thursday isn't it?

Some are, not sure about Haldanes tho. Might have to give them a ring and ask.

BANZAI
19th May 2008, 22:07
I'm not doing the Friday ride. Anyone keen to go shopping with me? LOL

motorbyclist
19th May 2008, 23:17
Most bike shops shut around midday and virtually none are open on sunday (cycletreads being the only exception i know of).

WWH close at 2pm on sunday :D

and the last tmie i checked those total motox stores close at 3pm on saturday (lifesaver having one near-ish woodhill offroad bike park)

Phurrball
20th May 2008, 09:47
WWH close at 2pm on sunday :D

(snippy)

Yay for WWH being open on rainy Sundays to pick my sorry arse up off the road!

Those clubman bars look seriously masochistic for anything other than café racing! And one would be racing, as minimum transit time between cafés would be optimal. (therefore minimum wrist and neck suffering) .

(This is probably my old-man wrists talking and making me jealous of suffering I couldn't take - I'm sure they'd look great)

BANZAI
20th May 2008, 10:03
I saw old honda CB350???(not sure) parked at near HSB building parking today. (Any clue MGST?) and thought straight handle bars doesnt look bad either :p

Btw I wanna do oil change sometime soon, where can I get Honda G1 or G2 oil? Heard it's good and reasonably priced.

But havne't found gasket yet, should I do oil change after gasket done?

HungusMaximist
20th May 2008, 16:34
Save some cash Banzai!

I can get you some 5100 Motul 10W40 (this is the good stuff) engine oil at about around $13 bucks a litre as I know this dude in Panmure has it in bulk.

Possibly cheaper but you gotta give me a cotainer, preferably a petrol cannister with a bendy spout.

klyong82
20th May 2008, 17:41
I saw old honda CB350???(not sure) parked at near HSB building parking today. (Any clue MGST?) and thought straight handle bars doesnt look bad either :p

Btw I wanna do oil change sometime soon, where can I get Honda G1 or G2 oil? Heard it's good and reasonably priced.

But havne't found gasket yet, should I do oil change after gasket done?

Just use some Motul oil should do the job perfectly well. Make sure it is 4 stroke oil when you are buying. I think you only need like 2 litres oil right? Ask Squiggles.


Save some cash Banzai!

I can get you some 5100 Motul 10W40 (this is the good stuff) engine oil at about around $13 bucks a litre as I know this dude in Panmure has it in bulk.

Possibly cheaper but you gotta give me a cotainer, preferably a petrol cannister with a bendy spout.

I will need oil soon toooo....very soon... bro.....hook me up...

ehab2weelr
20th May 2008, 17:42
omg


remember new tyres are very slippery for the first hundred km or so



yea new tyres and cornering dont go together so good, trust me i no new rear tyre and a moto-GPing it after an hour forced me to get new right heand side parts.... hahahah

im headin over to cycletreds at round 1 tomorro they got nice sharkes and other stuf for sale, gana get me a new helmet and other crap that could save ur ars if u bin hahahah, any one keen to join me??

BANZAI
20th May 2008, 19:22
Save some cash Banzai!

I can get you some 5100 Motul 10W40 (this is the good stuff) engine oil at about around $13 bucks a litre as I know this dude in Panmure has it in bulk.

Possibly cheaper but you gotta give me a cotainer, preferably a petrol cannister with a bendy spout.

It needs 1.5L with oil filter.

From my research it needs above SG, 10w-40 or 10w-30 or 5w-50. Yea Motul 5100 is one of the reccomended.


yea new tyres and cornering dont go together so good, trust me i no new rear tyre and a moto-GPing it after an hour forced me to get new right heand side parts.... hahahah

im headin over to cycletreds at round 1 tomorro they got nice sharkes and other stuf for sale, gana get me a new helmet and other crap that could save ur ars if u bin hahahah, any one keen to join me??

I ride like nana anyway, probly wont do any Moto-GPing for next 6month or more lol

I got classes tomorrow so I can't go with you.




I need tool-kit for GN coz this didnt come with one(previous owner dropped it somewhere lol)

What do I need for basic kit? Also how often do you guys check the tyre pressure? Should I get prressure meter?

One more thing, FULL GASKET for GN250 on trademe $75. Good or Bad?

klyong82
20th May 2008, 19:40
It needs 1.5L with oil filter.

From my research it needs above SG, 10w-40 or 10w-30 or 5w-50. Yea Motul 5100 is one of the reccomended.



I ride like nana anyway, probly wont do any Moto-GPing for next 6month or more lol


I need tool-kit for GN coz this didnt come with one(previous owner dropped it somewhere lol)

What do I need for basic kit? Also how often do you guys check the tyre pressure? Should I get prressure meter?

One more thing, FULL GASKET for GN250 on trademe $75. Good or Bad?

Yeah Motul 5100 pretty much suits any bike.....I think what Ehab trying to say that new tyres tend to be slippery so caution when riding for the first 100km...

Toolkit...can let u see what i have in mine for an idea....dont bother about pressure meter just go to the petrol pump and pump air into the tyres...they should say in there for a month without issue..

BANZAI
20th May 2008, 19:50
Yeah Motul 5100 pretty much suits any bike.....I think what Ehab trying to say that new tyres tend to be slippery so caution when riding for the first 100km...

Toolkit...can let u see what i have in mine for an idea....dont bother about pressure meter just go to the petrol pump and pump air into the tyres...they should say in there for a month without issue..

Yea I know, lady in Cycletreds told me "gotta ride it like nana for first 100km-150km".

Cool, coming to chiller??
Petrol station is very nearby so I dont think tyre will warm up that quickly to alter the measurements...

klyong82
20th May 2008, 20:20
Yea I know, lady in Cycletreds told me "gotta ride it like nana for first 100km-150km".

Cool, coming to chiller??
Petrol station is very nearby so I dont think tyre will warm up that quickly to alter the measurements...

Probably this Friday....

motorbyclist
20th May 2008, 20:20
But havne't found gasket yet, should I do oil change after gasket done?

if it's just the top gaskets you could get away with an oil change now and top-up after the gaskets....

but for money and simplicity's sake do the oil after the gasket



gana get me a new helmet

about time!:clap:



What do I need for basic kit? Also how often do you guys check the tyre pressure? Should I get prressure meter?

One more thing, FULL GASKET for GN250 on trademe $75. Good or Bad?

spark plug socket, screw driver (flat and posi), spanners and allen keys to fit your bike and pliers. basically the stuff needed to adjust levers as needed and fiddle with carby/sparky/air filter if she stops running for whatever reason. a roll of electrical tape and some cable-ties never hurts either.

don't overdo it, there's not much use in carrying many tools unless you know how to use them, and then when you do need to use them murphy's law dictates it's not a job that can be done on the side of the road and/or you're missing just the one tool that you need to do it

i check tyre pressure whenever i fill up at the station before a ride, so monthly at the worst.... every now and then i'll give her a squeeze just to be sure

ask stephen about gaskets, didn't he offer you one for $20?

BANZAI
20th May 2008, 20:47
ask stephen about gaskets, didn't he offer you one for $20?

He's trying to get one in that price with guy dealt with on TradeMe....

Squiggles
20th May 2008, 21:56
75 isnt bad if its for the full set, i think i got my last set for 60. there are a few factory tool kits out there for gn's on tardme, $20 per kit

the funny flattened tube is an extension to the the ring spanner :bleh:

Squiggles
21st May 2008, 17:57
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-156529196.htm

BANZAI
21st May 2008, 22:24
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-156529196.htm

Thanks!!! When's next fix night???

I'm planning to visit motomail, have a look around for gears and say hello to Dushy tomorrow after 4pm, who's keen to go with me?

motorbyclist
21st May 2008, 22:30
gots a test

BANZAI
22nd May 2008, 00:05
After reading this thread need to visit Cycletreds sometime.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=74174

Tomorrow? Going through Bridge with rush hour traffic? Hmmmmm not really....

motorbyclist
22nd May 2008, 00:08
i've seen chris do this on a few rides... wore them under his draggins due to the holes

BANZAI
22nd May 2008, 07:55
Hey it's realy good weather today!!!

Anyone free 11-2 for shopping? :lol:

Shopping List:

Knee protector
Oil filter
Tools need for oil change(I'll get oil from ewen sometime)
Maybe Handlebars if there is any.

Haldane seems good for couple items. Or any other suggestion of shops?

TXT me 021 079 7278

Squiggles
22nd May 2008, 08:13
go ta haldanes for the oil filter, and to checkout their bars

knee protector?

Oil change is only a socket, cant remember but might be a 22mm (cant remember)... i wouldnt bother buying just one socket, just use someone elses.

motorbyclist
22nd May 2008, 10:43
go to repco or mitre10 or something and buy a socket set/toolkit, (plus some ring spanners, a hammer, screwdrivers, allen keys and some pliers too if they aren't in the toolkit already) - duct tape and cable ties

plus a torque wench, impact driver, some crc 556, wd40, sealant, contact cleaner, brakecleen, wire brush, mallet, steel bar, drill, drill bits, angle grinder, grinding and cutting discs plus rotary wirebrush, bench grinder (with both grinsdtone and wirebrush), gas set, some welding gear (go arc/stick welder for now, but mig/tig welder is more fun and can be used as a plasma cutter), a vice, solid workbench to bolt things to, hacksaw, lathe, mill (preferably CNC and computer with CAD software), electric arc furnace, sandblaster, sandpaper, feeler gauge, vernier callipers, measuring table, that height gauge thing, micrometer, lapping stick and compound, valve puller, a few g clamps, some wood (plank and dowel), spare steel, spare aluminium, spare plastic, spare wire, solder and soldering iron, heat gun, shrink wrap, spare bolts/nuts, battery charger, some spraypaint (primer, clearcoat, high heat black and galv plus your fav colours), thinners, meths, a compressor, spraygun, rattle gun, nibblers, airbrush, one of those tyre press things, stereo, pantera albums, a few donor bikes and a shed (or small warehouse/factory, but your apartment may do)

then you'll have almost all the gear you need :)

(but no idea how to use it:laugh:)

Squiggles
22nd May 2008, 10:44
Or just save your money ;)

ehab2weelr
22nd May 2008, 10:52
should have came with me yesterday bud....

BANZAI
22nd May 2008, 13:06
go to repco or mitre10 or something and buy a socket set/toolkit, (plus some ring spanners, a hammer, screwdrivers, allen keys and some pliers too if they aren't in the toolkit already) - duct tape and cable ties

ETC....

then you'll have almost all the gear you need :)

(but no idea how to use it:laugh:)


Or just save your money ;)

I'll go with save some money and steal you guys tools :p


should have came with me yesterday bud....

I had classes yesterday, but I have 1 class only today!!!

I found nice boots at Haldanes $250 for 135 and it does fit me well.
Thinking of going there again after 4pm. Anyone keen?

>>Rie, this time 4pm. I'm not gonna change time and just go by myself lol

BANZAI
22nd May 2008, 19:49
Thanks to Rie who escorted me through crazy rush hour traffic!!

I bougt the boots, so gotta save up for handlebars for while :laugh:

BANZAI
22nd May 2008, 22:24
Not going for the ride tomorrow.

But going for shopping again.

Planning to go:
Motohaus
Mt.Eden Motorcycle shop
Red Baron
Colemans(maybe)
and Cycletreads or Wild West Honda if I can????

EDIT: Could go
Red Baron>Colmans?>Mt.Eden>Motohaus>WWH

motorbyclist
22nd May 2008, 23:38
Not going for the ride tomorrow.

But going for shopping again.

Planning to go:
Motohaus
Mt.Eden Motorcycle shop
Red Baron
Colemans(maybe)
and Cycletreads or Wild West Honda if I can????

EDIT: Could go
Red Baron>Colmans?>Mt.Eden>Motohaus>WWH

which is probably the best sort of riding you could be doing right now:)

BANZAI
23rd May 2008, 21:48
Thanks to Ewen who escorted me till Gt North Road exit. Other guys went fot ride today just disappeared after got on the motorway :laugh:

Thanks to Don at WWH for helping me a lot!

I got pair of knee pad for $20!!!

I'm probly gonna get handlears from there as well(10% discount and free fitting :p)

It was really good weather today, nice day to cruise and sight-seeing.




Two down sides...

*Speedo doesnt work anymore!

I heard big click noise then suddenly it doesnt work...Stephen and Metalor reckons it's cable, gotta check tommorow and I'll take it to Haldanes...

*AA need to make L-plate with plastic sheet, not plate!!!

I dropped GN(yes again...) and the plate came off... I made laminated one, it shouldn't break this time, even if I dropped it again...

shingo
23rd May 2008, 22:02
*AA need to make L-plate with plastic sheet, not plate!!!

I dropped GN(yes again...) and the plate came off... I made laminated one, it shouldn't break this time, even if I dropped it again...

If you want you can have my plastic L plate, seen as i dont need it anymore.

klyong82
23rd May 2008, 22:53
Other guys went fot ride today just disappeared after got on the motorway :laugh:...

I was leading the pack....we just knew you would have no problems arriving at WWH. Did Don try to sell you a Honda?? Say yes and Stevo will be happy for you tooo...

BANZAI
23rd May 2008, 23:06
If you want you can have my plastic L plate, seen as i dont need it anymore.

Should be fine with this one, I made two of them just in case... It would be so hard to break them tho, it's just $2 shop L sticker laminated.


I was leading the pack....we just knew you would have no problems arriving at WWH. Did Don try to sell you a Honda?? Say yes and Stevo will be happy for you tooo...

Erm, no not really???:confused: WHY???


I want original Royal Enfield and BSA "motorcycle" they had in there :drool:

motorbyclist
23rd May 2008, 23:18
I dropped GN(yes again...) and the plate came off... I made laminated one, it shouldn't break this time, even if I dropped it again...

what happened? good thing you didn't go open road eh?

BANZAI
23rd May 2008, 23:30
what happened? good thing you didn't go open road eh?

Meh, tried to push it around in funny angle and direction. 150kg of metal is bit too heavy for me, sometime I lose balance and then it's gonna either fall to my side or the other...

howdamnhard
23rd May 2008, 23:38
Congratulations,the GN will make a good leaners bike and commuter(I'm keeping mine for commuting).After tyres I would look out for the following on the chinese built ones like mine:1) The chinese chain strecthes really fast so keep an eye on the tension. 2) Lube the tachometer drive at the front wheel.3) don't be surprised when the regulator/rectifier packs up(battery will start running flat). 4) wd40 is your friend lube everything except the tyres and brakes and that should keep the corrosion at bay. Other than that they are a cheap and easy bike to use and run,enjoy.:niceone:

howdamnhard
23rd May 2008, 23:50
*Speedo doesnt work anymore!

I heard big click noise then suddenly it doesnt work...Stephen and Metalor reckons it's cable, gotta check tommorow and I'll take it to Haldanes...

even if I dropped it again...

OOps to late,your speedo drive at the front wheel has probably siezed,they don't lube them properly when they assemble them,happened to mine just outside warranty.Don't bother with new handle bars unless they are really bent and unsafe,as they are likey to get bent again while you are still learning.
Haldanes are pretty good but it pisses me off Suzuki don't get the speedo/drive lubed properly when they know its a known fault.

motorbyclist
24th May 2008, 00:01
Meh, tried to push it around in funny angle and direction. 150kg of metal is bit too heavy for me, sometime I lose balance and then it's gonna either fall to my side or the other...

oh yeah, that sucks

nearly did that myself this morning mounting a curb - with the brand new fairings on though there was NO way i was letting it fall

just be sure to learn where to grab your bike when it does that - i dropped my 250 once, and it trying to save it i grabbed it by the helmet lock and made a nasty mess of my fingers (but the bike was OK!)


C 2) Lube the tachometer drive at the front wheel.

tachometer drive in the front wheel? now that's a funny way to read engine speed;)

damn suzukis!

howdamnhard
24th May 2008, 00:08
tachometer drive in the front wheel? now that's a funny way to read engine speed;)

damn suzukis!

Damn :crazy:,I was hoping nobody would notice.I mean't the speedo drive,but by the sounds of it it's to late as it already has siezed.

Macstar
24th May 2008, 02:28
Fun and games of owning a bike Mr Banzai. last night I left the office on my way home on a 7000km old bike and my rear brake line came loose and dumped all the brake fluid on one of the steepest hills in Auckland (the one near the corner of Princess St and Parliament st that leads down to the Metrolpolis). I had to do the bitch of all hill starts with the front brake whilst clouds of smoke brewed off the exhaust from the leaky fluid.

Fun and games.

I punished the bike later on on the ATNR (after i bled the brake and topped it up again).

BANZAI
24th May 2008, 07:30
1) The chinese chain strecthes really fast so keep an eye on the tension.

Hmm ok, my chain seems ok but I'll keep my eye on.

3) don't be surprised when the regulator/rectifier packs up(battery will start running flat).

From my research they are expensive to replace aren't they? What can I do to prevent that?

4) wd40 is your friend lube everything except the tyres and brakes and that should keep the corrosion at bay. Other than that they are a cheap and easy bike to use and run,enjoy.:niceone:

Can I use it for chain as well? Previous owner gave me chain lube as well and I used that couple days ago.

[QUOTE=howdamnhard;1577000]Don't bother with new handle bars unless they are really bent and unsafe,as they are likey to get bent again while you are still learning.

I reckon GNs are indestructable! I only have wee scratches on both of my lever, but nothing else :p

I'm surprised how strong the "winkers" are :laugh: (ask guys here what's that mean)

I do really want to change handlebars, I want to make it more look like proper "motorcycle"

[QUOTE=Macstar;1577032]Fun and games of owning a bike Mr Banzai. last night I left the office on my way home on a 7000km old bike and my rear brake line came loose and dumped all the brake fluid on one of the steepest hills in Auckland (the one near the corner of Princess St and Parliament st that leads down to the Metrolpolis). I had to do the bitch of all hill starts with the front brake whilst clouds of smoke brewed off the exhaust from the leaky fluid.

Fun and games.

I punished the bike later on on the ATNR (after i bled the brake and topped it up again).

Haha that's Fun! I haven't been to that hill yet, maybe I should give it a go :p

klyong82
24th May 2008, 07:42
From my research they are expensive to replace aren't they? What can I do to prevent that?


Can I use it for chain as well? Previous owner gave me chain lube as well and I used that couple days ago.


rectifier yes up to $200-300 for a Honda....a GN? maybe less I suppose.

You only use WD40 on chain when you wanna give it a chain good clean bro. Keep using the chain lube...spray lube every 300km's and use WD40 to clean every 1000km's then lube again. I clean and lube my bike after every big ride....a properly maintained chain will last quite a while.

xwhatsit
24th May 2008, 12:16
Banzai -- the chain is probably OK, being yours is a 2004 GN250. Most of the issues described are a problem on brand-new GN250s (the newer ones are manufactured in China, and the quality is not as good as the Japanese factories), so the problems have most likely been taken care of.

Nonetheless lubing cables and lubing the chain is a good thing to keep an eye on. WD40 makes a reasonable chain lube, but it flicks off the chain quickly so you have to lube it frequently. Better off using a proper chain lube to make your life easier.

If you don't have any money for new bars, I've got an old (slightly bent) set of CB250RS bars you can have for nothing. CB250RS bars aren't clubman bars or anything, but they're reasonably flat and would be a lot more comfortable than the GN250 ones. If you rolled them back a little bit they'd almost be perfect. The left side is bent downwards slightly, but it's pretty easy to bend them back into shape.

motorbyclist
24th May 2008, 12:40
3) don't be surprised when the regulator/rectifier packs up(battery will start running flat).

From my research they are expensive to replace aren't they? What can I do to prevent that?


keep it well ventilated and make sure it earths correctly

beyond that there's not much you can do for poorly made electronics but replace them with heavier duty ones

BANZAI
24th May 2008, 20:06
Banzai -- the chain is probably OK, being yours is a 2004 GN250. Most of the issues described are a problem on brand-new GN250s (the newer ones are manufactured in China, and the quality is not as good as the Japanese factories), so the problems have most likely been taken care of.

Nonetheless lubing cables and lubing the chain is a good thing to keep an eye on. WD40 makes a reasonable chain lube, but it flicks off the chain quickly so you have to lube it frequently. Better off using a proper chain lube to make your life easier.

If you don't have any money for new bars, I've got an old (slightly bent) set of CB250RS bars you can have for nothing. CB250RS bars aren't clubman bars or anything, but they're reasonably flat and would be a lot more comfortable than the GN250 ones. If you rolled them back a little bit they'd almost be perfect. The left side is bent downwards slightly, but it's pretty easy to bend them back into shape.

PM sent!!! I bought WD40 at repco today, can I use it for all Lubrication points mentioned in owner's manual? It says in some parts use motor oil some parts Grease ???

I think normal flat bar is fine for the moment. At leaset it's gonna look like motorcycle lol


keep it well ventilated and make sure it earths correctly

beyond that there's not much you can do for poorly made electronics but replace them with heavier duty ones

Well ventilated?? I'm not too sure about it, can you have a look at it sometime?


I rode GN around today. Took it to work, then took it to Haldanes to get Speedo Cable replaced, met Rie there to find boat shop along Gt South road for ground anchor(Rie needs one to keep her bike from dangerous neighbour :p guy in Haldane suggested to go some boat shop? along the road) but we couldn't find it lol

Wen't to warehouse in somewhere to shop for WD40 but none in stock. I had to drop something off to howick so I left, during my trip there I tried Repco in Gt south road near Market RD exit but they didn't have any as well, had time when I arrived at Howick, went to Botany Warehouse but none there too. Then finally found one at Botany Repco!!!

On the way back I took motorway and "tried" to stay within 80kmh :p
How fast can GN go??? I think after 110 it's gonna be very unstable :laugh:

klyong82
24th May 2008, 21:17
Man Banzai that sounds like a bit of riding...gosh you are learning fast bro...keep it up and in no time you will be riding with us all the way round coro-loop etc:niceone:. But do get that gasket fixed or it will blow up like a rocket launcher and you will have to buy a Honda CBR which last forever ...:banana:

I was doing shopping too but stuff for my house and was driving up and down just trying to find the necessary items...all well sorted now

xwhatsit
24th May 2008, 21:24
Who knows how to bend back bars? I don't have a vice or anything, suspect Banzai doesn't either hehe. Stick 'em on the bike first -- but then what do you hold to stop the front wheel turning?

klyong82
24th May 2008, 21:28
Who knows how to bend back bars? I don't have a vice or anything, suspect Banzai doesn't either hehe. Stick 'em on the bike first -- but then what do you hold to stop the front wheel turning?

4 adults and a pipe might do the trick...did that with a CBR600 result was good...but at 80 bucks why bothered trying to bend something back..because it will never be 100% straight again.. plus new bars look way better...try is out first banzai...afterall the bars will make your bike look like a Honda CB250RRRRRRRRRS...:wari:

xwhatsit
24th May 2008, 21:33
Rofl. CB250RRRRRRRRS -- that's my bike then :D

Well I'm going over to Banzai's tomorrow sometime maybe around 2pm? Perhaps a little later if I sleep in haha. Who wants to join me?

BANZAI
24th May 2008, 21:38
4 adults and a pipe might do the trick...did that with a CBR600 result was good...but at 80 bucks why bothered trying to bend something back..because it will never be 100% straight again.. plus new bars look way better...try is out first banzai...afterall the bars will make your bike look like a Honda CB250RRRRRRRRRS...:wari:

I'll just give it a go eh. If thats gonna cause tankslapper than I'll change it :rofl:


Rofl. CB250RRRRRRRRS -- that's my bike then :D

Well I'm going over to Banzai's tomorrow sometime maybe around 2pm? Perhaps a little later if I sleep in haha. Who wants to join me?

My apartment's carpark isn't big and I don't think management ppl don't want too many scary looking biker hang aroung in the carpark lol

xwhatsit
24th May 2008, 21:43
I'll just give it a go eh. If thats gonna cause tankslapper than I'll change it :rofl:
Bent bars won't cause that, just make one hand closer to you than the other. I rode with these bars for a while and didn't realise they were bent until I was riding towards a friend and he saw one hand was lower than the other hehe.

My apartment's carpark isn't big and I don't think management ppl don't want too many scary looking biker hang aroung in the carpark lol
Lol -- I think I actually know a couple of girls who live in the same apartment, if I'm thinking of the same place. Maybe I could invite them down to use their muscles to bend the bars? :lol:

Choco
24th May 2008, 21:49
How fast can GN go??? I think after 110 it's gonna be very unstable :laugh:

132km/hr and still very stable :D
A GN wont throw you off at speed unless you do something really stupid.

BANZAI
24th May 2008, 22:01
132km/hr and still very stable :D
A GN wont throw you off at speed unless you do something really stupid.

Really? 110 was scary enough for me :laugh:

Choco
24th May 2008, 22:06
Really? 110 was scary enough for me :laugh:

Take your time, you'll get more confident with the bike the more you ride it :niceone:

motorbyclist
25th May 2008, 01:38
PM sent!!! I bought WD40 at repco today, can I use it for all Lubrication points mentioned in owner's manual? It says in some parts use motor oil some parts Grease ???

grease and oil are two very different things, and then there is many different types of grease, so you can only substitute the two in certain instances where both will suffice, but usually they can't be interchanged

in short, if you aren't sure about it ask someone who knows what they're talking about.


in general:
cables=wd40
chains=wd40, but chain lube is ultimately what they need to run
belts=NOTHING (not that your bike has any)
removing tight/rusted bolts = crc556 and hammer/impact driver
reinstalling bolts that you don't want to rust in place=either will work, grease is MUCH better
any unsealed bushings/bearings that aren't bathed in oil = grease
anything with a grease nipple = grease
anything electronic = contact cleaner and nothing more unless you know you can get away with it - remember oil doesn't conduct electricity
brakes=don't get any oil/crc anywhere near your brakes - it will soak into and ruin your pads, and may cause the piston seals to perish and eventually fail

and no matter how tempting it is, do not silicone spray your tyres - results in zero traction and the overspray onto the brake discs gives zero braking power

BANZAI
25th May 2008, 18:31
Got new Handlebars installed today!!!

Thanks heeeeeeaaaaps to xerxesdaphat for installing it!! :sunny:

We had to cut a little thing sticking from switch boxes to fit the bar in (original bar have holes to make them stay in place).

That took while to organise lol but other than that, everything went smooth.

After he left I took it for test ride.

It handles waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than normal bars!!!!!!:wari_nana:

I can weave so much easier at any speed, I can lean easier, and it feels much more confortable! (It feels like I have complete different bike! :p)

Gotta adjust mirrors and levers, but other than that I'm so happy!!! :first:


I was too busy test riding, so missed cheap treadme tool kit tho :pinch:

Ragingrob
25th May 2008, 18:38
Yeah man even looks way cooler! Big ups to xerxesdaisthisenoughx's? :2thumbsup

No worries there are plenty of tool kits out there for ya! Just make up excuses to go to Stephens, and then slowly steal your way towards a full kit, lol jks!

xwhatsit
25th May 2008, 18:58
Yep, the GN250 has got that silly system where they drill holes into the handlebars and have a tab on each switchblock so they locate onto the bars. Silly system, because it means you need to drill new bars (not a problem if you have the tools, but I didn't bring an electric drill) and also it means you can't adjust switchblocks to rotate them or slide them to where you like it comfortably.

We were worried about the throttle unit in particular rotating around the bars. Decided in the end to cut off the tabs, then get some heavy-duty duct-tape (the fibre/cloth kind), wrap one layer around, then use that as extra grip, as the GN250 switchblocks seem to entirely rely on the locating tab for friction.

Eventually got it sorted out after some fiddling.

Bars are more bent than I realised, but Banzai seems comfortable. Maybe somebody could get a length of pipe on the end of them to straighten them out? At any rate they're not causing problems in the mean time.

Brake master cylinder got inverted accidentaly, brakes are still very effective (I could easily two-finger lock the front brake), but tomorrow I'll bring some brake fluid and bleed the brakes at uni. Banzai reckons the brake lever pulls in a little further than it used to, so not good.

Head gasket is definitely blowing. You can feel it with your hand, and when the engine was fired up there was a tiny, momentary puff of smoke from the barrel/head interface. Chain could use a little more tension too, but it's not too bad. When's next SMC workshop night then? Lovely relaxed engine, though. No rattles, smooth as anything. Banzai -- if you still want it to do 9,500rpm, we'll chuck a CB250RS engine in it :D

BANZAI
25th May 2008, 19:17
Banzai -- if you still want it to do 9,500rpm, we'll chuck a CB250RS engine in it :D

Hey thanks a lot today!!! I'm not too sure about break levers it does work fine, but it just feels different than before.

Yea need DOHC head to rev higher!!! :laugh:

I'll name her GN250RS:first:

xwhatsit
25th May 2008, 21:33
Yeah, I'll bleed them tomorrow. I think they were firmer before, but hell, I could lock your front wheel easy in the garage, but I couldn't with my bike even with my whole hand on the lever.

I like that -- GN250RS :lol:

BTW there is such a thing as the CB250RSR produced. Special edition Japanese market only version of the CB250RS-Z.

So we'll do the limited-edition performance GN250RacingSports :rockon:

BANZAI
25th May 2008, 21:39
Yeah, I'll bleed them tomorrow. I think they were firmer before, but hell, I could lock your front wheel easy in the garage, but I couldn't with my bike even with my whole hand on the lever.

I like that -- GN250RS :lol:

BTW there is such a thing as the CB250RSR produced. Special edition Japanese market only version of the CB250RS-Z.

So we'll do the limited-edition performance GN250RacingSports :rockon:

In this case it's stand for Road Sports. It needs bikini-cowling to be called as Racing Sports :p

When I get the clip-on I'll call it GN250Clubman:cool:

BANZAI
27th May 2008, 12:56
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The only problem with new handlebar is I can't see rear-view mirror well.

Left side is ok, but right side one.

I need something slightly higher or maybe more adjustable one eh.....

Choco
27th May 2008, 21:33
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The only problem with new handlebar is I can't see rear-view mirror well.

Left side is ok, but right side one.


You can see something in your rear-view mirrors? I just get a wonderful view of my arm :pinch:.

On a more serious note: my right one is pretty crappy too (probably from a wee slide i had) so i have my left mirror facing WAY back and my right is pretty much just looking at my blindspot.

Headchecks are you're friend.:bleh:

xwhatsit
27th May 2008, 22:39
Well, seeing as this is the GN250RoadSports, maybe a bar-end mirror is on the cards? See heaps with one of those. Maybe $20?

klyong82
28th May 2008, 08:18
Well, seeing as this is the GN250RoadSports, maybe a bar-end mirror is on the cards? See heaps with one of those. Maybe $20?

Should get mirrors like yours....would be wicked...

BANZAI
28th May 2008, 15:09
Well, seeing as this is the GN250RoadSports, maybe a bar-end mirror is on the cards? See heaps with one of those. Maybe $20?

But but... what if I dropped her agian? :sweatdrop

I might do it agian, I'm a bad owner.... :crybaby:

xwhatsit
28th May 2008, 15:42
But but... what if I dropped her agian? :sweatdrop

I might do it agian, I'm a bad owner.... :crybaby:
Pffft, what's $20? Besides, when I had my crash into a car, resulting in that huge dent in the tank, then sliding along the road for a little while, all that happened to the bar-end mirror was some road-rash on the stem. Despite hitting the car and sliding on the side of the bike where I have the mirror.

They rotate on a spring detent system, so just fold out of the way, really.

How's that gearshift? Is it still heavy? Did it go that way after you tried adjusting the clutch? Remember -- the big thin nut is just a locknut to keep it secure. The smaller longer nut, you screw in to make the cable slacker (i.e. have to pull in right to the bars to use the clutch), screw out to make the clutch cable tighter (only have to pull in a little bit to use the clutch). Are you pulling the clutch in the whole way? If not, and you're not rolling off the throttle properly, the gearshift will be heavy.

EDIT: Here's an auction for the mirror I have on my bike, $25 no reserve or $30 buy-now http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Frames-bodywork/auction-157188502.htm

Ixion
28th May 2008, 15:57
Y'know, y'can get these reversing cameras now, quite cheap.

I wonder .....

Pumba
28th May 2008, 16:08
Y'know, y'can get these reversing cameras now, quite cheap.

I wonder .....

Have a talk to Imdying, he is doing somthing along those lines with his SV

Ixion
28th May 2008, 16:13
Can't understand why they aren't standard fitment on GoldWings

xwhatsit
28th May 2008, 16:19
GoldWings
We shall not speak of such things in a thread about air-cooled single-cylinder café racers :angry2:

Ixion
28th May 2008, 16:22
For that matter, I can't understand why a single cylinder air cooled auxiliary bike isn't standard fitment on a Goldwing. Like those housebuses you see towing a RAV4.

BANZAI
28th May 2008, 16:57
EDIT: Here's an auction for the mirror I have on my bike, $25 no reserve or $30 buy-now http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Frames-bodywork/auction-157188502.htm

I think the gearshift is sorted, I adjusted the screw so hopefully it works tonight...

I'll save the mirrors till next time, when I get clip-ons installed!!! :p


Hahaha auxiliary bike, then its gotta be this.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=74402

xwhatsit
28th May 2008, 20:05
What's the GN250 fork diameter, anybody? I don't like my current clip-ons, not enough downwards slope on them. So if they'll fit a Ginny, you can have them cheap.

Gotta go into uni tomorrow, I'll bring my calipers and sneak up and measurerape the nearest GN250's forks with them.

BANZAI
28th May 2008, 21:13
What's the GN250 fork diameter, anybody? I don't like my current clip-ons, not enough downwards slope on them. So if they'll fit a Ginny, you can have them cheap.

Gotta go into uni tomorrow, I'll bring my calipers and sneak up and measurerape the nearest GN250's forks with them.

If my info is correct, they are 32mm.

Yay clip-ons!!! Exciting :drool:

Ragingrob
29th May 2008, 08:32
Man your bike is just getting fully blinged up Yui!

Wait till ya get a givi visor + foot guards like my one had :lol:

BANZAI
29th May 2008, 11:14
Gaskets arrived!!! Gotta get oil from Ewen but not sure when El Presidente is free to change the gasket...

How long does it take and what do I need for DIY gasket change?? :rolf:


Givi visor is cool.... But new stuff is sooo expensive for me!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=13359&highlight=wreckers

How many of them are still around? We should do wreckers tour! :laugh:

motorbyclist
29th May 2008, 23:13
Gaskets arrived!!! Gotta get oil from Ewen but not sure when El Presidente is free to change the gasket...

How long does it take and what do I need for DIY gasket change?? :rofl:


just to do a head gasket? under an hour provided you have decent internet to find a manual/walkthrough

20 minutes with squiggles, i'd say 30 minutes but probably take 3 hours seeing as you'd may as well re-seat the valves, replace rings, replace piston for high-compression one, adjust tappets, mod the airbox/intake, build a high-flow high-noise exhaust, fit injectors and supercharge

BANZAI
29th May 2008, 23:45
just to do a head gasket? under an hour provided you have decent internet to find a manual/walkthrough

20 minutes with squiggles, i'd say 30 minutes but probably take 3 hours seeing as you'd may as well re-seat the valves, replace rings, replace piston for high-compression one, adjust tappets, mod the airbox/intake, build a high-flow high-noise exhaust, fit injectors and supercharge

Hehe don't forget FCR carbs!!!


I got full set except valve seals and preferbly want to change everything.
adjusting tappets and airbox mod can be done as well :p

I need to steal Xeresphat's twin side exhaust!!!

Realistically want to change sprokets to get more high-geared setting so that I dont have to shift up whenever I have to turn at lights and sligthly lower revs at 100kmh....

xwhatsit
30th May 2008, 00:08
Hehe don't forget FCR carbs!!!


I got full set except valve seals and preferbly want to change everything.
adjusting tappets and airbox mod can be done as well :p

I need to steal Xeresphat's twin side exhaust!!!

Realistically want to change sprokets to get more high-geared setting so that I dont have to shift up whenever I have to turn at lights and sligthly lower revs at 100kmh....
Bleh if you could make them fit, you could have them too lol -- I really want a two-into-one, twin exhausts are weighty and don't sound as nice (to my ear). Look shit hot though, with a high-temp black coating.

In terms of sprockets, be careful. Taller gearing will make it slower to accelerate, and the poor little Ginny (which struggles to get up to 100kph-110kph at the best of times) will really have a hard time getting up there. I know by making my gearing taller it really killed the top-end. I'll be going back to stock.

It is a little irritating having the thing howling up high in the rev range at 100kph, but realistically it's designed to do just that and it's not going to hurt it.

Squiggles
30th May 2008, 07:26
just to do a head gasket? under an hour provided you have decent internet to find a manual/walkthrough

20 minutes with squiggles, i'd say 30 minutes but probably take 3 hours seeing as you'd may as well re-seat the valves, replace rings, replace piston for high-compression one, adjust tappets, mod the airbox/intake, build a high-flow high-noise exhaust, fit injectors and supercharge

Head and base gasket, and you're coming to make sure we get it perfect. 3 heads over 2. (Oh, and coz i hate doing the tappets)

xwhatsit
30th May 2008, 11:16
Head and base gasket, and you're coming to make sure we get it perfect. 3 heads over 2. (Oh, and coz i hate doing the tappets)
I initially thought it was just the base gasket, as that's where its leaking oil from. Until he fired it up and it became obvious that the head gasket is blowing.

So definitely both need doing.

Why are both leaking this early? Was the whole lot not torqued up properly?

Squiggles
30th May 2008, 20:35
Who knows, we knew when he bought the bike. Looking at doing it monday, want to lend a hand?

xwhatsit
30th May 2008, 23:57
Who knows, we knew when he bought the bike. Looking at doing it monday, want to lend a hand?
Sure, at yours? Can't foresee how busy I'll be, but I'll do the valves if you get the shits with them that much :D

BANZAI
31st May 2008, 06:47
Who knows, we knew when he bought the bike. Looking at doing it monday, want to lend a hand?


Sure, at yours? Can't foresee how busy I'll be, but I'll do the valves if you get the shits with them that much :D

Thanks guys!!! :2thumbsup

On monday I have to be at uni 2pm-3pm. When are you guys free? (and Andrew)

Squiggles
31st May 2008, 08:31
Thanks guys!!! :2thumbsup

On monday I have to be at uni 2pm-3pm. When are you guys free? (and Andrew)

Start in the morning, say 10am, should finish up around midday

motorbyclist
31st May 2008, 14:51
i'm booked for monday

motorbyclist
31st May 2008, 14:53
Head and base gasket, and you're coming to make sure we get it perfect. 3 heads over 2. (Oh, and coz i hate doing the tappets)

LOL, last night banzai seemed to think that was sort of job that needed doing


("3 heads over two", an extension of "two heads is better than one")

Squiggles
31st May 2008, 19:21
Better make it just after midday actually :P should still only take a couple of hours :P

motorbyclist
31st May 2008, 22:32
banzai busy from 2pm till 3

i'm good from 3 onwards

i say we aim for 3pm, and me and steve will arrive an hour late as per usual

BANZAI
4th June 2008, 13:12
Hehee I got Halogen lightbulb from japan :D

Planning to install it on weekends, anyone wanna go for tool shopping this Saturday?

shingo
4th June 2008, 13:41
stupid slow uni internet, caused me to double post.

shingo
4th June 2008, 13:41
Hehee I got Halogen lightbulb from japan :D

Planning to install it on weekends, anyone wanna go for tool shopping this Saturday?

Why'd you get one from japan? Don't they just take an H4?

They're common as bulbs, most older japanese cars use em. Cheap as chips too if you shop around.

BANZAI
4th June 2008, 19:55
Why'd you get one from japan? Don't they just take an H4?

They're common as bulbs, most older japanese cars use em. Cheap as chips too if you shop around.

I didn't buy it, it was given to me :msn-wink:

Oops, I got 35/35w instead of 45/45w....
See what's gonna happen...

PirateJafa
4th June 2008, 20:38
Oops, I got 35/35w instead of 45/45w....
See what's gonna happen...

Explosions will ensue!

BANZAI
5th June 2008, 07:15
Explosions will ensue!

are you sure? Isn't it ok to put less wattage bulb but it will make it dimmer?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-158126859.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-156708858.htm

Hmmm wonder if I can get that headlight cover and tail-light cover... heheee

xwhatsit
5th June 2008, 11:02
Yep, no problem with slightly dimmer bulbs. 35W seems excessively shit, though, might not be that bright ^^

With your existing rusty light bits, you could always sand them back and paint them gloss black! Would fit in with the Road Sports theme :D I mean, they're ruined anyway with rust, painting them isn't going to make it worse. Then get some cheap chrome replacements later on.

BANZAI
5th June 2008, 11:48
Yep, no problem with slightly dimmer bulbs. 35W seems excessively shit, though, might not be that bright ^^

With your existing rusty light bits, you could always sand them back and paint them gloss black! Would fit in with the Road Sports theme :D I mean, they're ruined anyway with rust, painting them isn't going to make it worse. Then get some cheap chrome replacements later on.

Well it's should be worth 60w it says so see what's gonna happen. Standard lightbulb is crap anyway...

Hehee that trademe is our Mr.President's GN. I can't get in touch with him, so I thought I should post my will here :p

-easy--rider-
7th June 2008, 11:47
what year did they start making gns in china?

BANZAI
7th June 2008, 16:44
I went to Repco today, but theres no tool that can fit to the tool kit area...
Meh just gonna use ppls tool till I have enough fund to buy mine! :p

Suzuki stopped making GN125 at 1999, so assuming after that China started doing OEM??

Squiggles
7th June 2008, 17:00
what year did they start making gns in china?

roughly 2000

BANZAI
14th June 2008, 07:06
Anyone wanna go check this out with me? :lol:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=159539737
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=160506028

Squiggles
14th June 2008, 13:42
Get out your ruler and work out what diameter your headlamp is... that one is 17.5cm...

xwhatsit
14th June 2008, 14:51
Get out your ruler and work out what diameter your headlamp is... that one is 17.5cm...
Yeah, chatting to Banzai on MSN before -- GN250 has 6" headlight, that is designed for a 7" headlight bike.

Of course, 7" headlights are pretty cheap (and are much better).

bomma
14th June 2008, 16:02
Banzai's to-do list just got a lil longer:

1) Burnout
2) Wheelie
3) Stoppie
4) Outrun the cops

:2thumbsup go you good thing!!!! :2thumbsup

2wheeljunkie
15th June 2008, 08:56
Banzai's to-do list just got a lil longer:

1) Burnout
2) Wheelie
3) Stoppie
4) Outrun the cops

:2thumbsup go you good thing!!!! :2thumbsup

dunt forget turbocharge the GN and put a backup stand incase he forgets his stand is up and trys to park it..:rolleyes:

bomma
15th June 2008, 11:03
who's shorter kim or yui??? yiu's skinnier but i wonder which midget we can use to toss at bars.........

2wheeljunkie
15th June 2008, 14:28
who's shorter kim or yui??? yiu's skinnier but i wonder which midget we can use to toss at bars.........

think you juz brought on a war mate..:corn:

klyong82
15th June 2008, 15:44
who's shorter kim or yui??? yiu's skinnier but i wonder which midget we can use to toss at bars.........

So you calling me fat? :bash: you cheeky dark**

BANZAI
15th June 2008, 22:52
I think I'm the shortest in the club lol

Or maybe Rie? :whistle:

bomma
16th June 2008, 09:47
So you calling me fat? :bash: you cheeky dark**

hehe few too many dumplings maybe kim :shifty:


I think I'm the shortest in the club lol

Or maybe Rie? :whistle:

hehe shortest person in the club gets a free high-vis vest courtesy of ACC :clap:

klyong82
16th June 2008, 09:59
I think I'm the shortest in the club lol

Or maybe Rie? :whistle:

Rie can ride really well Banzai...does not matter if you are short or not as long you have a cool bike and ride well is more important :shifty:


hehe few too many dumplings maybe kim :shifty:


Hehe how you know it was dumpling festival a week plus ago....yeah good stuff bro.

BANZAI
16th June 2008, 10:36
hehe shortest person in the club gets a free high-vis vest courtesy of ACC :clap:

I got that already from you!

Can I have the one with LEDs?? :wari:

2wheeljunkie
16th June 2008, 10:43
for the first time im quite happy to say im not the shortest person around..yay me..!!!:clap:...but il have the the highvest jacket if it has LED's on them..i reckon ALL lights on bikes these days shud be LED..their just soo darn freakin cool..

p.s: abang kim..why u neva invite me around for dumplings ar..?

bomma
16th June 2008, 10:54
I got that already from you!

Can I have the one with LEDs?? :wari:

hahahaha might just make one for you now banzai....might have to sneak into my old school's tech building and design a board that makes the light flash in random patterns ;)


p.s: abang kim..why u neva invite me around for dumplings ar..?

aaaahahahahah ABANG!!!!!! i dont even know what that means but it sounds soooooo AWESOMO!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

Ragingrob
16th June 2008, 11:07
I think Nish bought too many party pills before they got banned and has tried using them to aid his study technique, or halo technique. :crazy:

klyong82
16th June 2008, 11:22
p.s: abang kim..why u neva invite me around for dumplings ar..?

Well I didnt even know that it was dumpling festival till I came back and there it was on the table....just 2 left....1 for me and the other for cant remember her name..

Next time lar adik kyle


aaaahahahahah ABANG!!!!!! i dont even know what that means but it sounds soooooo AWESOMO!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

It means Big Brother with a machete ;)

2wheeljunkie
16th June 2008, 14:41
Well I didnt even know that it was dumpling festival till I came back and there it was on the table....just 2 left....1 for me and the other for cant remember her name..

Next time lar adik kyle



It means Big Brother with a machete ;)

ahaha...ok lar bang.. tak apa..ahaha nish u farkin crack me up..!

xwhatsit
16th June 2008, 15:17
Rie can ride really well Banzai...does not matter if you are short or not as long you have a cool bike and ride well is more important :shifty:
You're shitting me -- somebody shorter than you in the club? What does she ride?

Seeing you on that Fireblart always reminded me of a midget on a rocket :D


Hehe how you know it was dumpling festival a week plus ago....yeah good stuff bro.
I'm waiting for Mid-Autumn festival again, I have a thing for mooncakes:niceone: Dumpling festival could explain why the RS is getting slower, though.

Ragingrob
16th June 2008, 15:21
She rides a GPX across one-way bridges with a van crossing it at the same time :2thumbsup

She sure can rie! I mean ride! I mean, Rie sure can Ride!

PirateJafa
16th June 2008, 15:55
aaaahahahahah ABANG!!!!!! i dont even know what that means but it sounds soooooo AWESOMO!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

It's a Honda thing. :buggerd:

klyong82
16th June 2008, 18:36
You're shitting me -- somebody shorter than you in the club? What does she ride?

Seeing you on that Fireblart always reminded me of a midget on a rocket :D

I'm waiting for Mid-Autumn festival again, I have a thing for mooncakes:niceone: Dumpling festival could explain why the RS is getting slower, though.

It a Fireblade bro....hehe well everytime I see other riders I just imagine an oversize person riding a pocket rocket :whistle: Well Rie isnt that short - same height as me. She got nice legs too :shutup: woohooo

Oh yummy mooncake festival coming soon....so we should so some gathering and buy some mooncakes....keep eating more dumpling bro....the RS will love it...

BANZAI
16th June 2008, 20:23
Hehe she does have nice legs isnt she! :p

Hope she get her riding pants soon so that her legs will be safer just in case anything happens(well hope nothing will happen anyway!) :pinch:

I ride all the way to Pakuranga in this rain and had a look at the fairing.

Fairing Purchased! :first:

It doesnt even need 7" lights to fit them. Just need to find different top brackets.

Hehe GN Cafe-racer :wari:

2wheeljunkie
18th June 2008, 07:51
Rie if u read this thread..u sure have alot of fans..u beta not ever wear shorts to a chiller..not with all these guys looking at yer legs..:wari:

klyong82
18th June 2008, 08:44
Rie if u read this thread..u sure have alot of fans..u beta not ever wear shorts to a chiller..not with all these guys looking at yer legs..:wari:

Yeah be careful with all these horney guys with their super horny hornets!!

Ragingrob
18th June 2008, 09:12
Lol! Oh god... :oi-grr:

Ah well, single to mingle! :lol: Hey wait... Banzai :nono: What a sly fox!

2wheeljunkie
18th June 2008, 09:22
Yeah be careful with all these horney guys with their super horny hornets!!

horney hornets only go for sexy queen bees..:2thumbsup

rie
18th June 2008, 09:52
horney hornets only go for sexy queen bees..:2thumbsup

i don't even want to know why i wouldn't qualify as one.

it's all about the accessorising, boys. my legs were looking pretty fly wrapped around that flash red cagiva yesterday. vroom vroom!

xwhatsit
18th June 2008, 10:04
i don't even want to know why i wouldn't qualify as one.

it's all about the accessorising, boys. my legs were looking pretty fly wrapped around that flash red cagiva yesterday. vroom vroom!
Hah, should've stayed on the Bros 400 in the shop window, see how many young men with big eyes pull up and walk into the shop :doh:

rie
18th June 2008, 10:16
Hah, should've stayed on the Bros 400 in the shop window, see how many young men with big eyes pull up and walk into the shop :doh:

dare i say it? they would be irresistably drawn in by the mysterious force of the three wheeled monstrocity sitting outside. there, i said it.

klyong82
18th June 2008, 10:19
dare i say it? they would be irresistably drawn in by the mysterious force of the three wheeled monstrocity sitting outside. there, i said it.

I think you mean three nice legged monstrocity ;)

rie
18th June 2008, 10:24
I think you mean three nice legged monstrocity ;)

LOL no i was ACTUALLY referring to a three wheeled souped up monstrocity with yellow (??) flames sitting outside wild west honda.

you could grace it yourself and then it'd be a five legged monstrocity :clap:

xwhatsit
18th June 2008, 11:09
I think you mean three nice legged monstrocity ;)
No, it definitely had wheels. And they weren't all that nice anyway.

Rie has only two legs as far as I know (although you did struggle to get into those leathers, didn't you?), but she has some sort of superpowers nonetheless. Who else has seen that side-stand trick? From where I was standing it looked like she was picking the bike up a good 400mm from the ground and turning it around O_o; . You might speak of midget tossing, but GPX tossing is just as good!

klyong82
18th June 2008, 11:47
No, it definitely had wheels. And they weren't all that nice anyway.

Rie has only two legs as far as I know (although you did struggle to get into those leathers, didn't you?), but she has some sort of superpowers nonetheless. Who else has seen that side-stand trick? From where I was standing it looked like she was picking the bike up a good 400mm from the ground and turning it around O_o; . You might speak of midget tossing, but GPX tossing is just as good!

Yeah chuncky nice 3 legs then.....haha :rolleyes:

A few of us seen her turn her bike on the side stand....I can do it to my bike but everytime I do I feel like its gonna snap...

Ragingrob
18th June 2008, 12:16
Yeah I always feel a bit dodgy resting the 160kg or so on the damn stand!!!

shingo
18th June 2008, 13:39
Rob, you're stand is the worst, that thing flexes all over the place even when you just lean the bike on it. Don't think i'd want to try spinning the bike on it either, would wreck that awesome paint job if something bad happened.

Ragingrob
18th June 2008, 13:44
Rob, you're stand is the worst, that thing flexes all over the place even when you just lean the bike on it. Don't think i'd want to try spinning the bike on it either, would wreck that awesome paint job if something bad happened.

Jealous of my stand? It's called "flexing into place" :lol:

xwhatsit
18th June 2008, 13:54
Jealous of my stand? It's called "flexing into place" :lol:
I'm fooked if I know what to do with GiJoe1313's RD250LC stand; it's suicidal. It's in front of your foot, and is practically vertical, so rolls forward and off with the slightest touch. Add to that the two-stroke lack of compression -- so no `handbrake' by putting it into first gear -- and I've had more than a few close calls and strained muscles wrenching it upright before it toppled over. Also, I believe it's made out of some kind of cheese.

Centre-stand only.

That bike wants to harm me, I'm sure.

Actually -- just twigged why my CB250RS stand is bent sideways/outwards, always wondered howtf that occurred. Rie or perhaps her mother was a previous owner.

Phurrball
18th June 2008, 14:00
Yeah I always feel a bit dodgy resting the 160kg or so on the damn stand!!!

Nyeh! I used that trick all the time - VTR250 AND Firestorm (196kg DRY! ~220kg wet)

As long as yer on solid ground, it's all good. Sidestands seem to be pretty close to the balance point of most bikes. I've seen it done on full-dresser Harleys! (But if the sidestand is gammy...discretion may be the better part of valour...)

I know where you've all been too - that three wheeled thing is a great promo tool (And yeah, that Cagiva is pretty sweet too - Japanese reliability with Italian style :drool: TL1000 engine :drool:)

My yellow 'thing' should be joining the family in the next couple of weeks too.:headbang: Yay!

Ragingrob
18th June 2008, 14:00
Haha I quite like mine, it goes down almost vertically and then you let the bike roll back an inch and the stand rests at a nice strong angle, no way the bike will move forward off the stand unless on a massive hill!

Phurrball
18th June 2008, 14:39
^^ That's what praking in gear is for.

Aren't we all supposed to be studying or summat?:crazy:

shingo
18th June 2008, 15:13
Does studying bikes count? :confused:

Ragingrob
18th June 2008, 15:17
I think there are a few SMC boys who are busy studying Rie's legs :lol:

Hmmm my next exam is in a week, kinda hard to motivate myself!

Squiggles
18th June 2008, 16:49
A new piston is on its way... old one is alright, was plenty carboned with a minor bit of scuffing. Safer than sorry and it'll have a complete refreshed top end at the end of it

BANZAI
18th June 2008, 18:07
Okeis, as Squiggles said when we take top off the pistons were coverd in carbon all over the place...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3417

I had to scrape off it with wire brush. It looks ok after it got brushed and sand papered. It will be on sale on TradeMe :p
(if any KBer wants it I can sell it cheaper than what I'm thinking to sell on TMe)
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3421

The safety sticker actually came off without any problem. I cleand it out with the stuff I bought from Repco and give it a clean and sticked Suzuki girl sticker!! :cool:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3416
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3420

Another thing to report was there was a spider living in back of my seat!! She? had couple white stuffed web so I assume thats egg or something...
I thought of stomping her but then I decided to let her go so its in that little garden bit of Squiggle's place :lol:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3418

Now Squiggles have 5 non working bike in hie shed :lol:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3423

Boohoo... no bike for next couple days :crybaby:

shingo
18th June 2008, 18:16
Is it just me, or does that spider look rather large.

Good to see you got the sticker off alright, the new one looks pretty good.

PirateJafa
18th June 2008, 18:17
Now Squiggles have 5 non working bike in hie shed :lol:

All that extra free space - luxury!

xwhatsit
18th June 2008, 20:10
Ah, nothing wrong with that piston! However, you'll be able to keep in front of RD250LCs for longer at the lights with a new piston/rings :laugh:

Jeez, better watch out, RS bars and a fresh top-end, you'll be giving Natalie a run for her money in short order :shit:

BANZAI
18th June 2008, 20:38
Lol! Oh god... :oi-grr:

Ah well, single to mingle! :lol: Hey wait... Banzai :nono: What a sly fox!

Ehehe it's free to enjoy looking at the art of mother nature!! :D

Btw I am very loyal to my missus :yes::love:

I just need to get out here before Rie gonna run me over with her GPX :bleh:

rie
18th June 2008, 21:54
I just need to get out here before Rie gonna run me over with her GPX :bleh:

why would i ruin my perfectly good gpx? especially now that the...'winkers' are working. : D

rie
18th June 2008, 22:08
Yeah I always feel a bit dodgy resting the 160kg or so on the damn stand!!!

i should mention that you rest it on your right leg. your right foot should be stepping on the stand, as you pivot. it will keep it in place AND you've concealed the fact that you are NOT lifting the bike off the ground with brute, powerpuff-girl force.

motorbyclist
18th June 2008, 22:16
Now Squiggles have 5 non working bike in hie shed :lol:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=81&pictureid=3423


lol it's more than 5

there's 5 and a half:D

BANZAI
18th June 2008, 22:20
lol it's more than 5

there's 5 and a half:D

Ah yes!! The baby Gixxer with Honda fairings!! I forgot to take the photo of those two next to each other :lol:

EDIT: Hey my name spelt wrong it's YuiChi!! :angry2:

BANZAI
22nd June 2008, 17:05
Mmm studying is not going that well.....

Just looked back the beggining of the thread.

TO DO:
Tyres (Done)
GASKETS (Not yet)
Oil&filter (Not yet)
Brake fluid (Not yet but maybe ok for now)
Plug (Don't need to yet)
Air filter (Not yet)


Wish list:
Straight Handle bar (Done but want GB250 straight bars)
Adjustable clutch lever (not yet, perhaps it's ok)
Brighter but smaller tail-light (Not yet, still looking for one)
HID head light (Changed to Halogen, but want 45/45w Halogen)
Double side Exhaust (Single "Capton Muffler" would look cooler?)

Does it suppose to be called Capton Muffler? This website says so and thats how we say in Japan..
http://www.cmsnl.com/products/capton-muffler-chrome-super_5431087850/

Bikini Cowl (Not really a Bikini but half cowling. DONE!)

Something to add:
Chains.
Front sprocket same teeth.

Couple suggestions from FilthyLuka:
Rear sprocket maybe one tooth smaller (less revs in 100kmh cruise)

Clean up the ports with a dremel and a carbide bit

He also suggested dump airbox and change to pod filter and Jet the carb but I think I will leave it as it is :)

Slow but nice progresses :D

Thanks heeeaps for all people who involved in this :first:

motorbyclist
22nd June 2008, 23:15
Rear sprocket maybe one tooth smaller (less revs in 100kmh cruise)


gearing it up also means less torque when trying to accelerate to that 100kph cruise

(will feel less grunty)

BANZAI
23rd June 2008, 10:18
gearing it up also means less torque when trying to accelerate to that 100kph cruise

(will feel less grunty)

That's why we need MORE POWWERRRRRR!!!

How much would porting give me? I don't need custom porting but want to smooth out the port. Do you have any tool for that?


How can I get more Torque out from this engine?
I think this engine's charactor is total opposite of 2strokes.

Have enough torque to pull the bike up to 100kmph smoothly without peakiness. (but not as much torque as multi cyls ofcource)

Its sort of like old British engines (Don't know about british bike engines but old british lightweight sports cars does not have screaming high revving engine like what Italian had)

I'm not expecting high performance from GN250 but want to make it more fun bike to ride :first:

motorbyclist
23rd June 2008, 10:45
high compression piston kit!

big bore kit!

(note if you make the engine markedly more grunty the clutch then gearbox start to go)

EJK
23rd June 2008, 10:49
GN400 Carb! :yes:

Squiggles
23rd June 2008, 11:24
How much would porting give me? I don't need custom porting but want to smooth out the port. Do you have any tool for that?


How can I get more Torque out from this engine?
I think this engine's charactor is total opposite of 2strokes.

Do a search, many have asked, answers have been given... theres not much to be gained without a lot more money than the bike is worth, and most gains are offset by other losses.

BANZAI
23rd June 2008, 11:29
high compression piston kit!

big bore kit!

(note if you make the engine markedly more grunty the clutch then gearbox start to go)


That's bit toooooooo extreme! :p

Won't porting and exhaust change would give me some extra couple hp?

In GT4 they do XD

How hard is it to pull +3hp from motorbike engines? (25hp would match with CB250RS spec :D)

I want to keep it light tuned. :cool:



GN400 Carb! :yes:

Like what your FXR have RS carbs?

Hmmm tempting... Maybe DR350 carbs, it's newer. But then it's gonna meke it peaky as like your FXR :p

EJK
23rd June 2008, 11:46
Whats wrong with my FXR? It's got MOAR PAWA and that's good! :oi-grr: lol

Get an air filter like mine too :D hahaha

xwhatsit
23rd June 2008, 11:55
BANZAI -- probably best to just leave the engine alone, to be honest. I want to rebuild my spare CB250RS bits into a 325cc monster, but don't have any illusions about it being cost effective or even that it will last 100,000kms without attention. Remember I won't be selling my bike either; doing things like that to an engine generally isn't good when you want to sell it.

I'd enjoy what you have, you're right, the GN250 is an old-style thumper, slow-revving torque. Stick an open megaphone on it and enjoy :D

BANZAI
23rd June 2008, 14:06
BANZAI -- probably best to just leave the engine alone, to be honest.
I'd enjoy what you have, you're right, the GN250 is an old-style thumper, slow-revving torque. Stick an open megaphone on it and enjoy :D

Yep. I don't want to change too much, but want to fine tune what I can :yes:

1939 Triumph Tiger 100 had 500cc engine producing 34bhp, weigh around 190kg

Which is very similar P/W ratio to GN (T100 5.58823529 GN250 5.86363636 actually GN is slightly better)

T100 can do "100miles" (actually 150kmh lol). So GN should!!!


I want to rebuild my spare CB250RS bits into a 325cc monster, but don't have any illusions about it being cost effective or even that it will last 100,000kms without attention.

Hehe fully tuned DR350 engine :drool:

BANZAI
24th June 2008, 18:07
Single "Capton Muffler" would look cooler?


It's actually called CABTON muffler and the word came from Japan, it stands for

Come And Buy To Osaka Nakagawa :rofl:

The motorcycle maker called CABTON existed back in 30s-60s? in Japan had this shape of muffler.

http://f10.aaa.livedoor.jp/~yotosama/trip/yufuin/yufuin.html
(second pic in row of pics in museum, the bike has CABTON logo on it)
http://www.imai-auto.jp/s_owner/detail.cgi?no=48

It was a copy of ARIEL muffler.
http://www.usq.edu.au/users/grantd/motorcycle/ariel/images/500VH1.JPG

Strange thing is some of Triumphs have this shape of mufller too.

What are they called in english then!???

I wish I can do motorcycle history paper, I won't mind researching all the stuff for it and write 5000words essay eh... Stupid music history!!!! :angry2:

klyong82
25th June 2008, 08:31
Some nice pics there banzai. I like the red one..... enjoy interesting to learn about motorcycle history from a Japanese.

ehab2weelr
25th June 2008, 08:51
that would actually look real nice on the gn....

BANZAI
25th June 2008, 11:51
Stilll no parts.....

:(:mad::angry2::argh::angry::2guns::ar15::weep: :crybaby:

ehab2weelr
25th June 2008, 13:52
:2guns::2guns::ar15::2guns::2guns::ar15::2guns: :ar15: . . . . . . . . . . :doobey::dodge:

hahahah this is fun.....fuk im board......

motorbyclist
25th June 2008, 14:46
Stilll no parts.....

hope for friday i guess...

BANZAI
25th June 2008, 16:57
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has arrived and Zim and I gonna pick it up tomorrow before or after his gear shopping!!!

Can we do this 10am-1pm tomorrow Andrew?

If work cant be done we can continue Friday 11-6pm or Saturday afternoon...

Ragingrob
25th June 2008, 17:14
Not Saturday arvo :p. Me and Andrew and Shaun are going on a roadtrip! We may be keen to call in to Stephen's I guess when we're back, will be like 6pm probably lol.

motorbyclist
25th June 2008, 18:06
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has arrived and Zim and I gonna pick it up tomorrow before or after his gear shopping!!!

Can we do this 10am-1pm tomorrow Andrew?

If work cant be done we can continue Friday 11-6pm or Saturday afternoon...

argh i just got everything organised so i can do 1pm onwards on thursday

anytime friday

might move the chiller to stevo's this friday too if we're all going to be there anyway

motorbyclist
25th June 2008, 18:40
due to mechanical work taking place at squiggle's place, strata closing early, and *insert infallible excuse here*, this week's chiller is at squiggle's place

motorbyclist
25th June 2008, 18:48
edit takes too long

replace squiggle's with squiggles'

BANZAI
28th June 2008, 21:39
GNX-R250 is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :first:

Took us two days to put all back together and it's running great!!!

Couldn't do the fairing but thats can be done sometime later...

Didn't take any photo coz we had to rush through everything :p

See some of you guys tomorrow at RRRS!!

PS:Hanne can you please upload photos of fix night???

BANZAI
7th July 2008, 11:17
Time to Update!!!

Went to Andrew(Motorbyclist)'s place to attach the fairing!

Borrowed Stephen(Squiggles)'s rear career to attach the fairing at the back. I didnt tight bolts & nuts here and there so lost couple of them on the way :pinch:

Thanks to Andrew's stock of spare bolts and nuts, we found good pairs for it :)

Drider(Dushy) grinded right top bracket which we had trouble fitting in last time and Andrew used his manpower to bend the other side to fit nicely :lol:

Here is the result!!

It feels much more confortable at higher speed, less wind hitting me. :D
Also I feel it is easier to accerelate from 80-100kmh. Maybe it is easier to get to its Max speed than naked, but still it takes aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages to get up to that speed :p

But also if wind hits from side, the bike get moved around lots more than before. Gotta watch out!!

Need to paint this sometime later and it will look very cool! :Punk::rofl:

PS: Last photo: "real man's shed" he says :whistle:

Macstar
7th July 2008, 11:31
Nooooooooooooooooo! Quick, take it off. Keep her naked - like a woman!

TOTO
7th July 2008, 21:26
Nooooooooooooooooo! Quick, take it off. Keep her naked - like a woman!

I like it, it adds personality, and will look even meaner in red :yes: