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motorbyclist
1st January 2009, 12:24
So, who wants to go for a blat up muriwai beach?

We will enter from the gravel 4wd access just north of the muriwai swimming end of the beach, and get a fair distance north before beginning any shenanigans.

When we approach the "half a tank of fuel/incoming tide (http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=muriwai_beachtides)" point we'll head back.

All in all it should be a fun blat up the beach:D

Tide Timing:
High tide is at 10am, Low at 4pm, High again at 10pm

SO, if we

meet outside engineering on symonds street at 10am
leave uni by 10:30am
stop by BP Kumeu for gas at 11am
get on the beach at noon (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&saddr=Symonds+St&daddr=Motutara+Rd,+0881&hl=en&geocode=FZirzf0d5MRqCg%3B&mra=ls&sll=-36.783064,174.568291&sspn=0.025366,0.043774&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.798289,174.613266&spn=0.202888,0.350189&t=h&z=12)

we should be set with plenty enough beach to begin the run, and no real concern for being caught by the tide.

then...

have lunch and turn around at 2 or 3 unless fuel dictates sooner
get off the beach at 4 or 5 at the latest
be home in time for dinner/beers:2thumbsup

sorted!


Remember it is salty, gritty, somewhat dangerous (mind you there isn't any cheesecutters, blind corners or poles) and the tides can always surprise you. There ARE cagers and I can tell you from experience they can be just as retarded as the ones on the road.

There is a very shallow stream crossing on the beach - video of access here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1874835&postcount=32)

Put plenty of lube on those chains before and after and be sure to give your bike a very thorough wash afterwards;)

Dirtbikes welcome - I will be using one myself - but it IS classed as a road so technically you need a licence/rego etc. never had trouble in the past but no promises.
Sprotsbikes not recommended but we won't be stopping you - remember your bike will be sandblasted and if you get tank slappers on the road the sand will be much, much worse.

A farm quad/4WD would be good to carry petrol, or maybe a bike with a pack rack will do. most small bikes and motox bikes will only last 2 or 3 hours tops to a tank, and while we should be ok, I dont think the AA will go to the south head while the tide is coming in.


Due to tides, the rain date will be saturday the 7th of february

:beer:

ital916
1st January 2009, 12:35
Im in bud, um how are you getting your db there and if so can i borrow the 250/125 haha. Pweeeeease! otherwise the mighty srv and I are in. Soft sand ahah I laugh in the face of soft sand *more like I laugh when I faceplant into the soft sand off my bike*

Wait, an excellent excuse to put tkc80s on my bike then I will have knobbly power! *if I cant borrow one of your dirt bikes*

motorbyclist
1st January 2009, 12:40
yeah, the beach is interesting with regards to soft sand

the soft stuff moves so you get a bit wobbly and use a lot of power just to push through it

the hard stuff is mint for cruising along at speed but it's wet with salt water and there is a risk of hitting soft spots... only an issue for sprotsbikes and 4WDs though

motorbyclist
1st January 2009, 12:49
could we have a poll plz?

dirtbike
roadbike
quad
cage
other

Ixion
1st January 2009, 13:50
I'm, a starter. But going up on the ebb and coming back on the flood is risky. If you get delayed you can be caught at full tide in the cliff section.

We used to reckon it best to go up on the flood hang out in the dunes over high tide, then head back on the ebb.

Theres only a shortish section where you can't get above high tide.

But the timing doesn't always work.

ital916
1st January 2009, 14:15
sounds like an adventure! pack the safety kits, rope and the ever trusty no 8 wire. Extra cans of petrol and a good ol socket set. No man or bike gets left behind. Oh an a quad would be great for towing bikes stuck in soft sand out.

Squiggles
1st January 2009, 16:36
If i havent left already, ill come

PirateJafa
1st January 2009, 16:52
Actually if anyone has a spare 4x4, I could be keen to drive it as a support vehicle.

Chilly-bins of cold drinks mmm. Throw a BBQ in the back too maybe. :P

Slyer
1st January 2009, 17:26
I'll drive/ride anything that anyone wants me to. :)

Squiggles
1st January 2009, 17:28
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motorbyclist
1st January 2009, 18:40
If you get delayed you can be caught at full tide in the cliff section.

considering the high tide is after dark we should be ok - i figure we won't be out long enough to bother getting road bikes up dunes, and provided we turn back by 3, at which time the tide will still be heading out, we should be ok


though if this was a dirt-only ride I do agree with you and head out so the tide is in while we muck about in the dunes


Actually if anyone has a spare 4x4, I could be keen to drive it as a support vehicle.

Chilly-bins of cold drinks mmm. Throw a BBQ in the back too maybe. :P

I will be towing my dirtbike out there on a trailer, so if we talk to the old man nicely he might let the ute on the beach


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chur

roy.nz
1st January 2009, 18:50
Man iwish i had my off road bike :weep:

Badger8
1st January 2009, 21:13
sounds great. i have heard rumours that the cops had / are having a big crackdown on the fact that it is actually a road out there. Not sure of details though. Am keen to bring the dirtbike out for a blast. Got the rebuild done, but havent had the time to ride her yet :shit:

motorbyclist
1st January 2009, 23:40
sounds great. i have heard rumours that the cops had / are having a big crackdown on the fact that it is actually a road out there. Not sure of details though. Am keen to bring the dirtbike out for a blast. Got the rebuild done, but havent had the time to ride her yet :shit:

yeah, both times we've had cager trouble (how else does one hurt themselves on a straight bit of road?) on that beach the cops didn't seem to care about the bikes or licences... actually they didn't seem to care too much at all..... nor did the cagers.....

paramedics, doctors, surgeons and parents did though:niceone:

motorbyclist
2nd January 2009, 00:51
i see someone voted "other"

please specify and satisfy my curiosity

ital916
2nd January 2009, 07:11
i see someone voted "other"

please specify and satisfy my curiosity

so...is the xl125 up to it/the yz250. Ill happily pay for all the gas and even come over early to clean and lube the air filter, check the sprockets and chain and get it all prepped. *damn I wish I had enough moeny for a db*

motorbyclist
2nd January 2009, 11:07
so...is the xl125 up to it/the yz250. Ill happily pay for all the gas and even come over early to clean and lube the air filter, check the sprockets and chain and get it all prepped. *damn I wish I had enough moeny for a db*

so did you vote other?

the xl125, experience tells us, can have overheating problems on the beach and doesn't have the power to keep on top of the soft sand if you try to get into the dunes

the yz250F depends on if the old man is coming - and i might mention that your srv is perfectly capable for this so i might leave it for those moar in need

HungusMaximist
2nd January 2009, 11:16
Will be keen but will most likely be riding Steveos new Suzuki with him on the back.

ital916
2nd January 2009, 11:56
so did you vote other?

the xl, experience tells us, can have overheating problems on the beach and doesn't have the power to keep on top of the soft sand if you try to get into the dunes

the yz250F depends on if the old man is coming - and i might mention that your srv is perfectly capable for this so i might leave it for those moar in need

no i didnt but I quoted it just to confuse people haha, true true ill bring the srv then. Le indestructable and I will be in attendance. tbh the srv can basically do it all lol from sand to gravel tracks to muddy forrest roads.

Nagash
2nd January 2009, 13:09
Could be keen to take the cruiser down.. done Muriwai with it before.

Alas, I work on that day. I will see how it goes and get back to you. Already trying to get the saturday of the 10th off to do a Northland loop but we shall see.

Squiggles
2nd January 2009, 13:36
I have plenty of 21" front wheels in the shed for those with sprot bikes :rockon:

ital916
2nd January 2009, 14:35
I have plenty of 21" front wheels in the shed for those with sprot bikes :rockon:

whats teh point they will still get stuck....now if you had some 300 hundy rears, then were talkin :laugh:

.chris
2nd January 2009, 17:35
Would be keen for this ride if only I was not in the south island that weekend.

Have fun, look forward to seeing your photos.
I have done a bit of a rip along the northern part of the beach up near Rimmer road (down from the sandpit), which could also be a good spot to start the ride, it would provide a nice gravel based intro before you hit the beach.

motorbyclist
2nd January 2009, 21:17
while i havn't been to the bike park since it moved, the last time i saw the rimmer road entrance it was whooped up - extremely difficult for a road bike

Badger8
2nd January 2009, 22:37
There any news on a support vehicle / bike with a big rack yet?
Have no idea how long the bike will run on a tank, and dont really wanna find out the hard way :whistle:

motorbyclist
2nd January 2009, 22:49
There any news on a support vehicle / bike with a big rack yet?
Have no idea how long the bike will run on a tank, and dont really wanna find out the hard way :whistle:

it's in the tubes, but i will say that my own bike will be one of the first to run dry being a big bore motox rather than an enduro/trail bike

Ixion
3rd January 2009, 01:13
The last time I saw the Rimmer Road beach access it would not have been practical for a road bike and dubious for a street 4wd.

The Pastor
3rd January 2009, 09:54
in like flinn with a grinn

ital916
3rd January 2009, 18:02
in like flinn with a grinn

you sure? Youre too badass for this ride bro, bring the gpz1100 with the bent forks and warped disks. that way itll be a challenge for ya.

Hmmm ill have to see how much trail tires will cost for the srv. Good thing she hasnt been cleaned in ages, if that road is gonna be problematic shell prolly get dirty.

Nagash
4th January 2009, 16:36
while i havn't been to the bike park since it moved, the last time i saw the rimmer road entrance it was whooped up - extremely difficult for a road bike

I took that entrance when I took the cruiser down a couple of years ago, whooped up, yes. Difficult, yes, but not impossible.

motorbyclist
4th January 2009, 17:22
a cruiser would be easier than a sports bike!

i took my little brother's hornet up this morning and hit the southernmost entrance... unfortunately with all the effort of getting it mounted sufficiently i forgot to put a memory card in my helmet cam so i've only got 4 minutes of very low quality video showing my exit :doh: - posting up shortly

motorbyclist
4th January 2009, 17:55
NEW PHOTOS ADDED to first post


and here's my video... such poor quality it's hardly worth posting really....

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oh lol youtube made it even worse

PirateJafa
4th January 2009, 18:00
Chris needs moar riding. It has cobwebs on it.

motorbyclist
4th January 2009, 18:23
i might add that i saw a park ranger talking to a guy on the beach unloading his dirtbike, and while both aprties took off fairly quickly, it appeared the ranger let him ride.

the other guys i stopped and talked to had no clue

Badger8
4th January 2009, 18:35
and here's my video... such poor quality it's hardly worth posting really....

oh lol youtube made it even worse

It's hard to tell from the vid, but i'm guessing the sand cant have been toooooo super soft if you managed to go straight through like that? Last time i was out that way it was whooped to hell, it was hard work tryin to even walk that entrance, and big 4WD's and one farm bike struggled to make it. Looks like it's gotten better now though :woohoo:

motorbyclist
4th January 2009, 19:02
no it wasn't/isn't too bad at all, just kept to a tyre track and was fine, though the bike sure got wobbly on the soft sand high up on the beach

though i might add i was running (what turned out to be) 20psi in that 180 rear - should be 36 - and used a fair bit of dirt biking skill to keep it going where i wanted it

Badger8
4th January 2009, 19:13
no it wasn't/isn't too bad at all, just kept to a tyre track and was fine, though the bike sure got wobbly on the soft sand high up on the beach

though i might add i was running (what turned out to be) 20psi in that 180 rear - should be 36 - and used a fair bit of dirt biking skill to keep it going where i wanted it

Indeedie, there is no substitute for a bit of experience when it comes to the soft stuff. Still learning m'self :)
But it is at least encouraging that roadie's should be able to make it on (with a little help if needed) :wari:

motorbyclist
4th January 2009, 19:54
yeah shoudn't be any dramas - and if there is the sand is soft and they wont be moving fast;)

Badger8
4th January 2009, 20:12
yeah shoudn't be any dramas - and if there is the sand is soft and they wont be moving fast;)

Drama's is half the fun! :woohoo: And sand is great for being so forgiving :yes:

And besides, the challenge is what off-road ridin is all about... :wari:

<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90602&d=1206521338"> </img>

The Pastor
4th January 2009, 23:08
ive just realised taking a bike with no air filter on a beach probably isnt the smartest ideas, looks like i'll have to put the air filter back on, or at least the box.

Slyer
4th January 2009, 23:16
I'm pretty sure...

Magua
5th January 2009, 09:54
ive just realised taking a bike with no air filter on a beach probably isnt the smartest ideas, looks like i'll have to put the air filter back on, or at least the box.

Nah, she'll be right.

motorbyclist
5th January 2009, 16:13
just buy some filter foam and make your own pods or a filter box to slip over the trumpets:D

macros87
5th January 2009, 19:51
a totally would if i had a dirtbike! maybe i should go around see which on of my friends with dirtbikes has the least security measures when storing them...

Badger8
5th January 2009, 19:57
a totally would if i had a dirtbike! maybe i should go around see which on of my friends with dirtbikes has the least security measures when storing them...

There is this wonderful thing called beer... it comes in boxes... friends with toys can sometimes be convinced to hand over said toys in exchange for said beer, and returning with a full tank of gas ;)

macros87
5th January 2009, 20:22
There is this wonderful thing called beer... it comes in boxes... friends with toys can sometimes be convinced to hand over said toys in exchange for said beer, and returning with a full tank of gas ;)

said case of beer would also cost less than the bolt cutters i was about to invest in so i could... well you know what i wanted to do with those :) ill see what i can do..

motorbyclist
6th January 2009, 13:57
haha, KX85 bigwheel ftw!

Slyer
6th January 2009, 14:25
Bags the ute passenger seat if everything else is all taken.

motorbyclist
13th January 2009, 01:36
*bump*

:ride:

motorbyclist
18th January 2009, 17:10
bump!

next saturday guys!

Ixion
18th January 2009, 17:15
BTW. Everybody take water ! Moar water! Lots moar water!. That's not lots. Moar. Still moar.

Slyer
18th January 2009, 17:33
No dirt bike so looks like I'm not coming.

Ixion
23rd January 2009, 11:39
Bumpy bump

Is this still happening ?

Magua
23rd January 2009, 12:59
It is indeed.

Ixion
23rd January 2009, 13:15
Then I shall, God willing, be there with my hair in a braid.

Don't forget to take water. Moar water. And ropes.

And food. And moar water.

Badger8
23rd January 2009, 14:36
Did there ever appear a support vehicle / quad with some rack space? Just worried about the fuel situation is all. Have a small jerrycan i could bungy to the seat, but if we have some gear carryin space i'll chuck the big can in for MOAR funsies :devil2:

Ixion
23rd January 2009, 20:05
OK. ffwabbitt's all packed. I've got my No 2 tool kit; water;rope; tiedown; bungees; spare fuel can; lighters; food;moar water; jumper cables (y can;t push start a bike on sand) ;moar water; chain lube; degreaser; WD40;moar water; puncture repair kit (but I haven't got a small hand pump - if someone had one of them it would be real good).Moar water . Small torch to signal to rescuers. Maps. Compass. Moar water.

Anyone got a decent first aid kit?

motorbyclist
23rd January 2009, 20:24
yep this is still happening

i will have my basic first aid kit with me as per all rides i do

loading my bikes into the van shortly - no support vehicle asfaik

Ixion
23rd January 2009, 20:26
Don't forget water. Moar water.

motorbyclist
23rd January 2009, 21:19
IMPORTANT

it appears the roadworks on symonds street have reduced it to two lanes

so just skip straight to bp kumeu, leaving there at 11 as per the plan

piratejafa will be at symonds to pass this message on - wearing fluro vest, riding black/dark silver vfr400 with obvious crash damage to the rear of the bike (rear ended)

i will be waiting at kumeu in what is now to be a purple/silver double cab ute with canopy and two or three blue yamaha motox bikes on the trailer OR a white hiace full of yamaha

sorry about the late notice, but i didn't realise the works would be this bad

Badger8
23rd January 2009, 22:03
Hrm, probably should have done some prep for this... oh well, t'was friday night :beer: :apint: And with the extra sleep in of going straight to Kumeu, i'll have plenty of time in the morning :wari:

Catch ya all at the gassy around 11

motorbyclist
24th January 2009, 00:01
yeah tomorrow morning i have to get some moar fork oil and reassemble a front end before loading the bikes, so the extra hour is quite convienient

TOTO
24th January 2009, 05:04
watch out for the cops on muriwai...

and the chichs with the big pachitcha bingos...

Ixion
24th January 2009, 17:36
Eight counted out (eventually !) , eight counted in.

Big props to the two road bikes that were in the seven that made it all the way to the top

A few spills, nothing serious. And only one ran out of fuel

A very pleasant afternoons ride.

EDIT:No cops. A ranger who was a good bastard

Badger8
24th January 2009, 19:22
Well i'm back home, bike washed and away, and shoving some well earned dinner in my face. Ute can wait til tomorrow for a clean, rubbed most of the giant penises off though :bleh: Now it just says "I wish my GF was this dirty!" down the side of it :laugh:

Was a most excellent day, had an absolute blast, and no cops to be seen. Had some awesome fun giving her a real windout (first ride since the rebuild), playing in the waves, running through the potholes, and whoopin it around in the soft stuff (faceplants included! :2thumbsup) And had far too much fun seeing the 450's blast off ahead, and just rolling on into powerband and drifting past them as they wound it out :lol: She goes bloody well for a little 200cc trail bike :lol: Have a rough idea of her top speed now (after keepin with the GPX on a straightaway), and it scares me to think about it...
And now i know for next time that she'll run for about 2h before hittin reserve (only just hit it about 3-5 min before we got back to the entrance :wari:)

Bloody chain pissed me off a bit, stretched a country mile in the time we were out, smashed a couple of teeth off the front sprocket. Oh well, they would have needed doing in a few rides anyways, so will just do the whole lot now. Gettin a big grunty O-ring chain for sure :yes:

All in all, a bloody good day. Been wanting to go for a blast up the beach for ages, but didnt really wanna head off by myself. Now i know what to expect i will have to do it again sometime :woohoo:

EDIT: Pics will be up in a while... Food takes priority :bleh:

Slyer
24th January 2009, 21:16
Fucking mint day.
We only got stuck entering the beach, on the beach, and exiting the beach.
:bleh:
I don't think I'll ever be doing it again sans nobblies though!

Binned the bike twice, once while being forced over into the soft sand and getting extremely wobbly until I couldn't control it.
The other time was when I got a bit too confident plowing through the puddles, they got progressively bigger till there was one so big that it completely stopped the front wheel. :doh:
Snapped off the top of my wind shield and twisted my forks out of alignment.
All good after a clean up and tool up at andrews. :)
Photos soon.. (possibly a video)

May I also say that you dirt bikers are crazy fuckers!

Slyer
24th January 2009, 21:40
Moar pictures

Slyer
24th January 2009, 21:41
moremoremore

Magua
24th January 2009, 22:05
Was a great day. Quite a work out trying to get to the beach, but once there it was smooth going (maybe not for all of us).

Props to the dirt bikers, there were some impressive jumps and crashes on those dunes.

Slyer
25th January 2009, 06:35
Well, I found some more damage from the crash. Petrol tanks leaking around where it mounts to the frame... argh
Woke up to the smell of petrol and a pissed off an tired flatmate banging on my door. :( (Sorry chris)

NO andrew that wasn't "JUST WATER"
:mad:

Badger8
25th January 2009, 07:08
May I also say that you dirt bikers are crazy fuckers!

Yes... Yes you may :2thumbsup

You were doing bloody awesome on that bike man, even i was struggling a little in those potholes where they got bigger just before you binned it. Took some serious balls to do that on a road bike!

Awesome photo's. Will have to post mine up later, gotta get ready for a swim-ride up to kaiiwi lakes! :yes:

Slyer
25th January 2009, 07:14
What annoys me is that the one I crashed on was the LAST one of a set of like 20.
Almost made it eh!
I didn't have the luxury of being able to turn like you dirt bikes, I had to go straight ahead or slow all the way down and turn.

Badger8
25th January 2009, 07:17
What annoys me is that the one I crashed on was the LAST one of a set of like 20.
Almost made it eh!
I didn't have the luxury of being able to turn like you dirt bikes, I had to go straight ahead or slow all the way down and turn.

Erm, with the amount of time my tires were in contact with terra firma through there, i couldnt turn either! :laugh: had trouble with the front hittin them a bit hard, so just gave it MOAR POWAR!!! :lol: came through it alirght in the end, despite snapping both ends off a bungy cord and dropping the fuel can in the sand :2thumbsup

Slyer
25th January 2009, 07:22
I think we have all come to the agreement that I need more power. :bleh:

Ixion
25th January 2009, 18:40
We all needed maor power.And most of us needed moar knobs.

The potholes were decidedly disconcerting. I didn't encounter them at all on the way up, so they were a bit of a surprise on the way back. I think I was leading on the way up, obviously picked a better route. They were bad enough that they totally dislodged my careful and well engineered luggage stowage.

It was not so much a mtter of not being able to turn to avoid the hole, but that , no matter which way one turned, turning just headed one straight into another hole! And they didn't LOOK that bad. Until you hit them. I was sure I was going to rupture a kidney or something.

Ixion
25th January 2009, 18:41
Well, I found some more damage from the crash. Petrol tanks leaking around where it mounts to the frame... argh
Woke up to the smell of petrol and a pissed off an tired flatmate banging on my door. :( (Sorry chris)

NO andrew that wasn't "JUST WATER"
:mad:

Araldite. Seriously . Works dandy. (Acknowledgments to Mr WINJA)

Slyer
25th January 2009, 20:18
I just covered the entire bit in sealeys knead-it but it didn't do the trick...
It's around the fairing mount so I can't cover it much otherwise I wouldn't be able to fit it back on.
Got a new tank on the way this week with the rest of the stuff, this tank has given me so much strife...

motorbyclist
25th January 2009, 23:41
good effort guys

i was surprised to see the 400s could do the whole trip one one tank, even if only just - it would appear the trick is not to crack open the throttle and to travel at half throttle rather than full throttle. go figure:rolleyes:

slyer - i initially thought that was a leak but seeing as you had just hosed down the bike.... shoulda txted when you left a puddle on my driveway

and here's the pics i took to justify the litre of fuel (cheers ixion) i spent climbing the dunes.

motorbyclist
25th January 2009, 23:44
and a few moar

i couldn't even see you guys from up there

krasher
26th January 2009, 17:20
I missed out. Hello Dello!

Mint pics.

motorbyclist
26th January 2009, 19:02
there could be another one of these with an excursion into the dunes at the bombing range - might bring the bbq too, as the old man reckons he'd drive the ute up to carry gas/food/wounded etc

Badger8
26th January 2009, 22:26
Sounds like a plan stan...

Few pics, just a couple of the best

Badger8
26th January 2009, 22:29
and some moar...

motorbyclist
26th January 2009, 22:51
perhaps moar power wasn't the best solution.....

but it was definetly the most awesome:Punk:

('tis about time the Yammy got to go on some SMC rides)