Turbos for bikes?

[Yamaha R15]

I saw this video of a bike with a turbo and now I want one on my bike, but is it possible to get a turbo for a Scorpio? If so then where can it be done and what would be the positives and negitives of having one?

[EJK]

:rofl:

Here we go again!

[p.dath]

I think you'd need pretty big nuts. Imagine it kicking in while cornering!

[Paul in NZ]

Mucho trouble come from turbo on single pot motorcycle....

[JimO]

Kawasaki had a turbo Z1R 1000 back in the 70s

[James Deuce]

Bahahahahahahahah.

Only if you get a pop off valve that goes "pssshhh".

[Gareth123]

Bahahahahahahahah.

Only if you get a pop off valve that goes "pssshhh".

Na man, you want to get one that goes

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Skip to about 20 secs in. (Id just write the sound but my knowledge of the english language fails me and I can't imagine what it would be written as)

[James Deuce]

I was sitting in Motueka having a late Brunch with a bunch of mates, basking in the limpid Winter sunshine, when a pair of airhorns made us all jump like startled rats.

Every time the Mitsubishi Cordia driver changed gear the airhorns attached to the pop off valve would "barp!" loudly, making old ladies fall over and break their hips, dogs run in random directions, and gap toothed Motuekan shop keepers run into the street shaking their fists.

It's one of the those memories that makes you snort out loud every time you think of it.

Dude deserved a medal for not taking himself too seriously.

[AllanB]

Yes you could.....but I'd save the $ and just buy a larger bike.

[ajturbo]

mine already has one...

[325rocket]

Yes you could.....but I'd save the $ and just buy a larger bike.

as above.

dont listen to all the haters, pretty typical really, there seems to be lots of people on here that have very little good in their life and get off on trying to bring people down. sad really.

if you really wanted to do it you could but unless you can do most of the work yourself it will be very costly.

on the flip side it would be a good project.

[FJRider]

as above.

dont listen to all the haters, pretty typical really, there seems to be lots of people on here that have very little good in their life and get off on trying to bring people down. sad really.

if you really wanted to do it you could but unless you can do most of the work yourself it will be very costly.

on the flip side it would be a good project.

I would not even say it would be a good project.
The money spent, would be better spent on a faster... better bike. Even without getting a bigger CC machine.
Hit the search button ... and read old comments on the subject.

[325rocket]

I would not even say it would be a good project.
The money spent, would be better spent on a faster... better bike. Even without getting a bigger CC machine.
Hit the search button ... and read old comments on the subject.

maybe, but a project is not always an investment so the money spent is just that, money spent.
many good projects turn into hobbies.

[discotex]

dont listen to all the haters

It's hardly hating to saying putting a turbo on a Scorpio is stupid. It's not like it's a busa or something.

It's have to be a tiny turbo for the exhaust gasses of a Scorpio to drive it and thefore boost would be minimal.

Easier to spend the money on a ZXR250. You'll get a shitload more hp per $$

[FJRider]

maybe, but a project is not always an investment so the money spent is just that, money spent.
many good projects turn into hobbies.

True words ... A $5000 dollar bike with $5000 spent on it ... is more often than not, still worth $5000 ...

Hobbies turn into obsession's ... then they get expensive...

[325rocket]

True words ... A $5000 dollar bike with $5000 spent on it ... is more often than not, still worth $5000 ...
.

or $3500 :doh:

[pete376403]

It can be done, but at the end of it you'll still have a very expensive small bike that's not worth much except in satisfaction
http://dtl.unimelb.edu.au/R/2SDT6JS4QKM9UMK46YLLFKAP62DB39V459J6C9MYGVCGEX9KM1-00056?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=67086&local_base=GEN01&pds_handle=GUEST

[Paul in NZ]

maybe, but a project is not always an investment so the money spent is just that, money spent.
many good projects turn into hobbies.

Sigh... Turbo a motorcycle by all means but go for a multi, a small single does not produce a smooth enough exhaust stream to make it work properly - many have tried, all have failed..... Singles also have impulsed inlet tracts and don't respond well to any forced induction so forget a supercharger too...

[bogan]

Sigh... Turbo a motorcycle by all means but go for a multi, a small single does not produce a smooth enough exhaust stream to make it work properly - many have tried, all have failed..... Singles also have impulsed inlet tracts and don't respond well to any forced induction so forget a supercharger too...

agreed, traditional methods of charging a single cylinder engine would not work very well. Though if the supercharger was designed to pulse pressure in time with the valves it could work, and you could even stick some exposed throttle butterflys sticking out through the front of the fairing somewhere, itd be porno as

[Motu]

Every time the Mitsubishi Cordia driver changed gear the airhorns attached to the pop off valve would "barp!" loudly, making old ladies fall over and break their hips, dogs run in random directions, and gap toothed Motuekan shop keepers run into the street shaking their fists.


Blow off valves are next on the noise control list.This guy is speeding up the process to put more power into the hands (and minds) of small ineffectual people like myself,whose only pleasure in life is to upset someones day.I glow with pride the more abuse is heaped upon me.....

[James Deuce]

Get orf my lawn!

[Motu]

Hit me,hit me with your.....

[gatch]

I saw this video of a bike with a turbo and now I want one on my bike, but is it possible to get a turbo for a Scorpio? If so then where can it be done and what would be the positives and negitives of having one?

You can turbo (nearly) anything with sufficient oil flow provided you can match the turb to your motor, in this case being a tiny single it would take MUCHO DENERO to make it go well (if at all), you would be much much better to get a bigger bike first, then turb that :D

Positives - WAAAYYYY more power when on boost and the bank will give you heaps of street creds.

Negatives - it will cost your soul, your legs, a kidney and your first born child. Also way higher fuel consumption, harder on every part of your drive train, tires, frame, suspension etc. Then it will cost you more money. Then you will hit boost in a corner and it will hit the big red eject button....

[Drew]

agreed, traditional methods of charging a single cylinder engine would not work very well. Though if the supercharger was designed to pulse pressure in time with the valves it could work, and you could even stick some exposed throttle butterflys sticking out through the front of the fairing somewhere, itd be porno as

Three letters, that arranged correctly, spell wheelie fun for all...


NOS


Easlily timed to pulse with the inlet, by running the injecter switch off the exhaust cam. (Mount it proper though, ya dont wanna find bits of it in the sump).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Negatives - ..

http://www.redtube.com/10147

[Drew]

http://www.redtube.com/10147


Bwahahahahahahaha, that's so sick, and so funny.

What could you possibly say, by way of excuse for finding that wee gem Pete?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bwahahahahahahaha, that's so sick, and so funny.

What could you possibly say, by way of excuse for finding that wee gem Pete?

I was purely trying to point out the pros and cons of forced air induction.

An intercooler would help.

[Drew]

I was purely trying to point out the pros and cons of forced air induction.

An intercooler would help.

Fair enough then, I found it ages ago when I was looking for fart porn.


Oohhhhhh yeeeeeaaaahhhhh, nothing gets me going like ransid arse..:love:

[discotex]

http://www.redtube.com/10147

Ummm NSFW...

[scumdog]

Three letters, that arranged correctly, spell wheelie fun for all...


NOS


Easlily timed to pulse with the inlet, by running the injecter switch off the exhaust cam. (Mount it proper though, ya dont wanna find bits of it in the sump).

Arranged correctly it would be NO2???<_<

[CookMySock]

if you can get a turbo off a tiny 600cc diesel car it might work.. but the boost will kick in late and it will kick in hard.

Steve

[tigertim20]

Just in case you are actually serious, I will say this.

A while ago on here I told somenody they would be wasting money doing a mod to a bike they owned, someone replied to my comment saying that us kiwis are known for our ingenuity and fucking with things, The hamilton boats for example, people told him not to bother, what if he had listened?

Look, if you are worried about throwing money away, want reliable power etc, DONT do it
BUT
If you want a fun project, have some money you can afford to throw away, and have heaps of time to tinker with stuff, and are willing to go through all the crap that nobody else has developed for that bike yet, then go for it.
Yes it can be done, at a cost, (quite large) in both time and money.

But if you just want a bit more power, but a zxr, or a cbr, Hey I have a TZR 250 for sale if you want that!!!!!

[bogan]

Three letters, that arranged correctly, spell wheelie fun for all...


NOS


Easlily timed to pulse with the inlet, by running the injecter switch off the exhaust cam. (Mount it proper though, ya dont wanna find bits of it in the sump).

actually sounds like a far better idea than turboing it, would give similar results without the turbolag, and save lots on fabrication too

[hayd3n]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBY54iKLos&NR=1

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ummm NSFW...

Enlighten me?

[CookMySock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBY54iKLos&NR=1Sure, you can weld all sorts of bits together, but nowhere there does he show you the boost gauge.. It's a fantasy, and not a bad one, but a fantasy all the same.

Steve

[pete376403]

Big problem with turbocharging a single is that the compressor does not like having the door shut on it, as in when the inlet valve closes. Compressor will go into surge condition and fail shortly after. Multis (ie 4cyl and up) don't have this problem as there is usually at least one inlet valve open all the time, so the flow from the compressor remains fairly constant. You can get around the problem by having a plenum in the intake, the volume of which should be at least equal to the engine size, but bigger is better. Honda 650 v twin turbo used this idea, whereas the suzuki and kawasaki 4's didn't need it.

[discotex]

Enlighten me?

NSFW - Not Safe For Work

also NWS - Not Work Safe.

Used to indicate it's probably not a good idea to click the link while still in the office :shit:

[Crasherfromwayback]

NSFW - Not Safe For Work

also NWS - Not Work Safe.

Used to indicate it's probably not a good idea to click the link while still in the office :shit:

Doh! Sorry mate...hope I didn't land you in it!

[discotex]

Doh! Sorry mate...hope I didn't land you in it!

haha nah mate I managed to close it quickly enough and remove all traces from my history before anyone noticed :shifty:

[Drew]

actually sounds like a far better idea than turboing it, would give similar results without the turbolag, and save lots on fabrication too

Of course it's a better idea. I looked into it when I was gonna turbo my FZR. The only real draw back, was the finite supply. If I could produce No2 while I drove, every vehical I own would be kitted.

[YellowDog]

Back in the 1980s I had a mate with a Yamaha RD400. He put a Turbo on it and then took it off again once he had repaired his bike. The old Turbos had a serious lag before kicking in. I am sure the new ones are better however the extra power burst may be hard to control.

[classic zed]

Turbo's are great, Iv had a IHI VF23 (Subaru WRX) modified to suit my project Z1300, the pipe work was pretty easy but Iv nodified the frame to be able to use standard headers and run the turbo behind the engine under the seat :shit:

You have to try things in life, whats the worst thing that can happen???
A, it doesnt work
B, you blow it up

how will you find these things out if you dont try? :laugh:

[Drew]

Turbo's are great, Iv had a IHI VF23 (Subaru WRX) modified to suit my project Z1300, the pipe work was pretty easy but Iv nodified the frame to be able to use standard headers and run the turbo behind the engine under the seat :shit:

You have to try things in life, whats the worst thing that can happen???
A, it doesnt work
B, you blow it up

how will you find these things out if you dont try? :laugh:


Crikey mate, you're a keener man than I, to put one on a shafty. The old girl gonna try and snap the shocks when ya feed it the message.

Cool as all fuck though!!!

[classic zed]

Crikey mate, you're a keener man than I, to put one on a shafty. The old girl gonna try and snap the shocks when ya feed it the message.

Cool as all fuck though!!!

Drastic measures taken in that department the old girl is now sporting a Hayabusa rear shock and a soon to be constructed thicker driveshaft with 2 UJ's rather than one (cos I have a much wider wheel) the weakest link is going to be the tyre :bye:

[98tls]

True words ... A $5000 dollar bike with $5000 spent on it ... is more often than not, still worth $5000 ...

Hobbies turn into obsession's ... then they get expensive... The result of money spent is only truely answered by the spender of said money,success or failure depends once again on the experiance of spender of said money.If indeed fuck all is acheived bar endless nights with grazed knuckles and sweat from pushing the result home but upon arriving embarking on more of the same surrounded by mates with equal devotion and a token 6 pack donated by all involved then for my money its not expensive at all,fwiw fuck the Turbo,more fun to be had with a V-TWIN and the supercharger off an early MR2.:yes:On that point for my money the interesting bikes i come across at rallys are bikes that have been modified/dicked about with whatever you want to call it,i dont really see/sea the rest,theres only so much to be learned by writing a cheque.

[DEATH_INC.]

Yer right, it can be cheap....I turbo'd a CM400 for my mate over a weekend, got the turbo for sweet f/a (off a twin turbo legacy) and made everything else. Runs a bit funny cos the carb (draw through) is a fair way from the engine (gonna fix that by repositioning the turbo etc) but it works.

[Pete.Viking]

Bahahahahahahahah.

Only if you get a pop off valve that goes "pssshhh".

First buy a harley then then turb then the stupid BOV, itd be an amazing piss take!! :niceone:

v-twin rumble, rumble, rumble, psssshhh, rumble

[pete376403]

Yer right, it can be cheap....I turbo'd a CM400 for my mate over a weekend, got the turbo for sweet f/a (off a twin turbo legacy) and made everything else. Runs a bit funny cos the carb (draw through) is a fair way from the engine (gonna fix that by repositioning the turbo etc) but it works.
theres a wee bit more to it than that - to get it running properly the turbine needs to be matched to the exhaust flow and the compressor needs to be matched to the air flow requirements (and thats just to start).
It might run, but it won't run well

[Drew]

First buy a harley then then turb then the stupid BOV, itd be an amazing piss take!! :niceone:

v-twin rumble, rumble, rumble, psssshhh, rumbleDunno about the BOV, but Harley is the only bike you can get a turbo for, and not void your warantee. Screaming Eagle sell bolt on turbo's, and super chargers for them.


theres a wee bit more to it than that - to get it running properly the turbine needs to be matched to the exhaust flow and the compressor needs to be matched to the air flow requirements (and thats just to start).
It might run, but it won't run wellStart over thinking it man. It gets real expensive if you try and get everything perfect.

Anyone thinking about putting a turbo on anything should just ask someone who's done it. It doesn't need to be rocket science, to get reliable extra power.