Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

[woodyracer]

i dont think he was looking ni the right place......if you know what i mean!

[sil3nt]

Keep an eye on this. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=264749412

It is the twin disc model so it should stop a bit better!

Someone just got a bargain! Less than $550. Considering the engine runs and the plastics aren't that beat up thats not a bad buy.

[Bren]

Yup that was me...I used to be southernrider on here.....

And I have another thats gonna be a parts bike...the main thing was the plates were live....would have cost me $300 to revin my other bike so I think I did well

[RDjase]

Any seen or heard from Chaos?

[woodyracer]

Any seen or heard from Chaos?

ill be seeing him on the 6/7th march

[woodyracer]

So the class is growing big now!, after doing the nationals there was 6 250's.....great stuff

[fizzafulla]

Excuse my ignorance but how is the production light class coming along? I'm not keen to read all 89 pages to find out the slow way.
Is a 250 twin 4 stroke still the way to go to get into racing? Would hate to get one if the class didn't catch on.

Thanks, Dan.

[woodyracer]

Excuse my ignorance but how is the production light class coming along? I'm not keen to read all 89 pages to find out the slow way.
Is a 250 twin 4 stroke still the way to go to get into racing? Would hate to get one if the class didn't catch on.

Thanks, Dan.

they great mate, its geting along great, they are abit quicker than 150's but they run with them. Theres a few of them poping up, its a great way to get into racing, the bikes i suggest is a kawasaki ex250, or hyosung 250, they the bikes ot get

[fizzafulla]

Good to hear. Those kawis look pretty cool alright. I may have to take the super cheap option of tidying an old twin up are other bikes eligible? I read that a guy's spada isn't eligible, they seem ideal to me.

[woodyracer]

Good to hear. Those kawis look pretty cool alright. I may have to take the super cheap option of tidying an old twin up are other bikes eligible? I read that a guy's spada isn't eligible, they seem ideal to me.

yea the kawaka's look good, i dont realy like the fell of them for a race-bike because they have a neutral riding position compared to the hyosugns more race-like ridng position

Get a wecked bike, they are cheap,

[puddytat]

The main criteria for what is eligible to race in this class is that it was sold new in N.Z.....Spada's are a Jap only model & so they're a "Grey import".
And that there has to be a minimum of 50 imported new.
Also there a one or 2 other rules like rim width & diameter that also rule out other bikes.
www.mnz.co.nz will have the rules on there.
Depending on what club your with,you may be able to run something in the class thats non-conformist but youll have to ask them.But if its not Kosher then you will not be eligible for the National rounds or points....
Good class though I reckon....its a hoot, & some great close racing with the 150's too

[woodyracer]

The main criteria for what is eligible to race in this class is that it was sold new in N.Z.....Spada's are a Jap only model & so they're a "Grey import".
And that there has to be a minimum of 50 imported new.
Also there a one or 2 other rules like rim width & diameter that also rule out other bikes.
www.mnz.co.nz will have the rules on there.
Depending on what club your with,you may be able to run something in the class thats non-conformist but youll have to ask them.But if its not Kosher then you will not be eligible for the National rounds or points....
Good class though I reckon....its a hoot, & some great close racing with the 150's too

oh that explanes it. Close racing with the 150's isnt it!, although the alot of people are selling their 150's for a 250's........will be a big class come next years nationals

[gatch]

The main criteria for what is eligible to race in this class is that it was sold new in N.Z.....Spada's are a Jap only model & so they're a "Grey import".
And that there has to be a minimum of 50 imported new.
Also there a one or 2 other rules like rim width & diameter that also rule out other bikes.
www.mnz.co.nz will have the rules on there.
Depending on what club your with,you may be able to run something in the class thats non-conformist but youll have to ask them.But if its not Kosher then you will not be eligible for the National rounds or points....
Good class though I reckon....its a hoot, & some great close racing with the 150's too

And it's a damned shame too.. A pity they didn't homologate the vtr 250. You could try argue that a spada is the old vtr etc. But I don't know if that woould actually work..

Nice shot on the spada too. Still got plenty of lean on that sucker though. When the fold up pegs are crushing your foot against the frame you're about there

[SS90]

And it's a damned shame too.. A pity they didn't homologate the vtr 250. You could try argue that a spada is the old vtr etc. But I don't know if that would actually work..

Nice shot on the spada too. Still got plenty of lean on that sucker though. When the fold up pegs are crushing your foot against the frame you're about there

It's interesting that the conversation always veers towards eligibilty of models for this class.

I suspect that a few people will be dissapointed because the only bike that can easily afford is an older model "grey import".

I can see their point..... why omit a large group of bikes from competing, when, most likely they won't be any faster than one that does comply with the regulations.

The sad reality is that if they started to have "grey areas" as far as machine eligibilty goes (Jap market stuff), then the skope for "cheating" (although, rule "bending" is really an "unfair advantage" in my book).

The concept that 50 bikes must be imported by the distributor from new is a great idea.

This sort if rule comes from way back in the 70's and 80's when (some) distributors where building a few "specials", and passing them of as homalgomated models, when in fact they where modified machinery (ask your grandfather what a Suzuki "black piper" was)

As far as I am aware, this rule does not disadvantage any one brand more that the other.

If you allowed Japanese market stuff, then the officials would have a hell of a time proving if someone had illegal sized rims, when, perhaps indeed one Japanese model did actually have a wider rear than another model.....where does it all end?

250 production (back in the day) was plagued with RGV wolf gearboxes (close ratio) being fitted to "production machines".....ignitor units being swapped, wider rims, ported cylinders, raised compresson etc etc, and it just became a slippery slope where it came to a point that even if you had all the talent in the world, you still could not win unless you "bent the rules".

I see this set of rules for this class as a real world attempt at reducing this risk, as well as appealing to distributors, and competitors alike.

I would also hasten to add that in reality, if a young guy or girl turned up to race a nationals round on a grey import bike, that, by definition does not comply for championship points, that they would in all likely hood be able to compete in the weekends points race for the class, but, not be a able to take any points away for the meeting.

Despite some of the bad press some officials get, they are all there too see racing flourish.

[gatch]

You're right it is for the best. I'm just saying it's a shame, not that the rules should be changed..

After all, this is proddy racing, if you are going to be racing a stocker, then if you are really keen to win, you'd want to start with the fastest bike you could etc..