How to get a deregistered bike on the road

**Shaun Harris** · 13th May 2014, 10:02

check out www.lvvta.org.nz

All the awnsers are on there, BUT!!!!!!! The certifier may ask for a lot of photos etc of the frame build to satisy them selves that it was done correctly and it is up to the certifier to get the cert done

**FROSTY:Me** · 14th May 2014, 14:42

Originally Posted by Dave-

Out or curiosity, is there any time limit on this bit?

So do you have to complete the repairs within 28 days, 3 months or some arbitrary length of time?

Does the engineer recheck the whole bike or only the things you failed on?

I'm going to have to take a pass on that one right now. the order you have to do things may have changed recently

**denill** · 4th August 2014, 15:22

Have scrolled thru the thread but couldn't find my answer.

Can someone kindly help? Am looking at buying a 1952 Triumph. No plates, no rego number. What's the protocol? TIA".............

**DanielM8** · 18th August 2014, 14:09

Originally Posted by denill

Have scrolled thru the thread but couldn't find my answer.

Can someone kindly help? Am looking at buying a 1952 Triumph. No plates, no rego number. What's the protocol? TIA".............

Does the previous owner have the old registration papers? If yes, that's all you need. If not, he needs to write/print you a receipt. It should be in a gst/tax invoice format and just state quantity 1x 1952 triumph .... Etc. and the vin number, then "as-is" and the purchase price. It should have the date of sale and sellers full name/address/signature.

You then take it in to an as compliance centre in your area and ask for a RE registration.. The receptionist will help you through the rest. These days it's all included, so for $250, they will Inspect it and give you a WOF.. You can buy the registration at the same place (minimum 6 months with plate, ~$200? On vintage bike).

That should be everything to get it back on the road.

The test is a bit more thorough than a WOF but hardly.. Just make sure it's up to warrantable standard before you take it in. Like a warrant, you get a 28 day recheck.

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**Mike.Gayner** · 18th August 2014, 14:25

Originally Posted by denill

Have scrolled thru the thread but couldn't find my answer.

Can someone kindly help? Am looking at buying a 1952 Triumph. No plates, no rego number. What's the protocol? TIA".............

Not exactly the same facts, but I wrote this up about my experience:
http://a7avenger.wordpress.com/2014/...n-new-zealand/

Hopefully you can get some value out of it. Short answer - you can register almost anything, but you might have to jump through some hoops and write a couple of cheques.

**denill** · 18th August 2014, 16:46

Some good info here, including the blog.

In my case the TR5 does not come with any proof of rego.

**Mike.Gayner** · 18th August 2014, 17:13

Originally Posted by denill

Some good info here, including the blog.

In my case the TR5 does not come with any proof of rego.

Still doable - get a letter from the police saying they have no interest in the frame or engine number, and get an ID from the Vintage Car Club ($100).

**DanielM8** · 19th August 2014, 00:45

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

Still doable - get a letter from the police saying they have no interest in the frame or engine number, and get an ID from the Vintage Car Club ($100).

I didn't need the police letter when I did it. Was told they don't need it anymore.. Think they just use the police website and lookup the vin.

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**Mike.Gayner** · 19th August 2014, 08:39

Daniel, I was advised the same thing, but I was also advised that more paperwork is better than less. The police request only took 2 days to process, and the constable that handled it ran a variety of checks to try (unsuccessfully) to locate the bike in the system or locate a previous owner. It's free and quick, so you may as well do it, particularly if you're short on documentation.

**marks** · 27th August 2014, 21:18

Hi

Thanks Frosty for such excellent info.

I've just brought a Tiger 955 insurance write-off and need to go through the repair - re certification process

The LTSA site lists 2 engineers for Wellington - Steve Gaskin and Deane McMillan

Anyone dealt with either of these guys?

any info appreciated

Cheers

Mark

**Laava** · 27th August 2014, 21:56

Originally Posted by DanielM8

I didn't need the police letter when I did it. Was told they don't need it anymore.. Think they just use the police website and lookup the vin.

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You need a statutory declaration to say that you own the vehicle and it is not stolen.

**denill** · 17th February 2015, 15:30

Would a 1952 Triumph require: Indicators & Brake Lamp?

**Mike.Gayner** · 17th February 2015, 17:29

Originally Posted by denill

Would a 1952 Triumph require: Indicators & Brake Lamp?

Nope

**sonic_attack** · 25th February 2015, 17:16

OK, fell over at the 2nd hurdle... Obtaining declaration from Police the VIN/REGO on my de-registered CB400N was of no interest to them.

They'll check and verbally tell me that the bike is of no interest to them, but not in writing. Because (allegedly) they can't give details of registered owner. OK, fair enough. I don't need the details of the registered owner, I just need a declaration stating the bike is of no interest to you, it's not stolen or reported stolen, it's not subject to any court order or a lean on possession - No, no written statement whatsoever.

Apparently no one has ever received a written declaration from the Police stating a motorcycle is of no interest to them. This has never happened (EVER) because the constable dealing with me has been a Police Officer for 10 years.
This is in Auckland Central Police station by the way... While strolling there I did consider these townies would just be a fuck-around, I was right.

So now WTF do I do?

I've already been to the postshop and tried the change of ownership, got nowhere because the vehicle is deregistered. CARJAM lists no details for either the VIN, nor the REGO plate for my de-registered Honda.

I anyone local in Auckland that could direct me to folk that won't be unhelpful in this situation? The situation being I've purchased an old bike, a few years (4 maybe) de-registered, I'm not the registered owner, I've no idea who the registered owner was as like any old shitter it's been passed around a bit and likely changed hands through swaps and deals. The bike itself doesn't need much, a clean up / tidy up and some indicators.

Which Police Station will issue declaration stating the item is of no interest to them firstly?

Thanks,

**FJRider** · 25th February 2015, 17:34

Originally Posted by sonic_attack

OK, fell over at the 2nd hurdle... Obtaining declaration from Police the VIN/REGO on my de-registered CB400N was of no interest to them.

They'll check and verbally tell me that the bike is of no interest to them, but not in writing. Because (allegedly) they can't give details of registered owner. OK, fair enough. I don't need the details of the registered owner, I just need a declaration stating the bike is of no interest to you, it's not stolen or reported stolen, it's not subject to any court order or a lean on possession - No, no written statement whatsoever.

Apparently ... such Police clearance / Documentation is no longer required. For your stated reasons.

Persistence beats resistance ....