Honda VFR1200 a big fat lemon?

[Headbanger]

Looks pretty damn groovy apart from the mufflers.

Your all haters.

[vifferman]

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Hey, I dont think you can knock a bike like this until you've ridden it, sat on it, felt it and smelt it.

Yeah you can.

[hmmmnz]

man that is one ugly machine, i think ill keep with my nice looking (my humble opinion of course) vf1000, it may not handle as well, and is probly just as heavy, but she's prettier to look at

[Blackbird]

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Yeah you can.

Absolutely It would be breaking Kiwi Biker tradition to allow facts to get in the way of an opinion.

Ian's right though. It's a big fat ugly whale which is one reason it wasn't considered as a replacement for the Blackbird. Might appeal to Goldwing riders with sportier inclinations

[Swoop]

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Hey, I dont think you can knock a bike like this until you've ridden it, sat on it, felt it and smelt it. Give it chance.

I would love to. From past experience, getting a demo ride from Honda will be like trying to get a free shag from a nun. Theoretically possible, but unlikely.

[RavenR44]

The 1200 resembles a Nth American bison from side on, albeit a shiny red 'un, so it's definitely aimed at the US market.

[pritch]

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Absolutely It would be breaking Kiwi Biker tradition to allow facts to get in the way of an opinion.

True, and like most KB threads of this nature many of the participants either wouldn't be likely to want to, or be able to, buy the bike anyway.

It may look large, but for comparison purposes:
VFR1200 - 267kg
ST1300 - 312
FJ1200 - 259

The weight disadvantage may be offset however by the power difference:
VFR1200 - 127KW
ST1300 - 93
FJ1200 - 94.9

Then there's the looks. I used to think the 999 looked bloody awful. Now though, it's growing on me and I think it looks great.
Maybe the Honda will do that too although that system hasn't worked for the BMWs so far.

I'd be interested in the Honda but at this stage I'm looking at downsizing rather than upsizing.

[Mr. Peanut]

I like it, bet it sounds good too.

[vifferman]

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I would love to. From past experience, getting a demo ride from Honda will be like trying to get a free shag from a nun. Theoretically possible, but unlikely.

Really?
I've been on two demo days (admittedly quite a while back) and had no problems cadging rides from the dealer. That's how I ended up with my current bike: I went in to look at helmets, and while I was waiting, a salesperson tried to sell me a new Blackbird. I said, "No thanks", but took him up on a test ride of a couple of VFRs.

The last demo day I went on may have put the dealers off the idea; it turned into an unofficial race day. By the end of the morning sessions, the whole day's petrol allocation was gone, and most of the bikes had fairly well shredded tyres.

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I like it, bet it sounds good too.

Nup.
They've ferkt that up somehow; to my ears, it sounds like a parallel twin.

[Gremlin]

We'll (Zapf and I) probably get our hands on the press one that does the rounds I guess... well, we got our hands on the CB1000R press bike over night.

Gotta ride it I guess to give the final verdict, but there are a lot of areas for improvement based on minimal knowledge so far.

[BMWST?]

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We'll (Zapf and I) probably get our hands on the press one that does the rounds I guess... well, we got our hands on the CB1000R press bike over night.

Gotta ride it I guess to give the final verdict, but there are a lot of areas for improvement based on minimal knowledge so far.

i am pretty sure i saw a vfr on the toy run down here

[Gremlin]

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i am pretty sure i saw a vfr on the toy run down here

I'll have to nudge the shop, if the quotas are already sorted, then yeah, the press bike should be somewhere near...

[Blackbird]

A friend on the UK Blackbird site came up with an interesting comparison, he reckons the front looks like a braying donkey! Maybe Honda can use it in their marketing

[Maha]

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A friend on the UK Blackbird site came up with an interesting comparison, he reckons the front looks like a braying donkey! Maybe Honda can use it in their marketing

Something like.........'Does My Ass Look Big On This'?

[nudemetalz]

Maybe the V-four engine is hung like a..........