South Auckland Street Skills

[Big Dog]

Lol, never been a choice I have had to make.
Every woman I have ever dated including the one I married wouldn't tolerate me without a bike.
It is not a coincidence that all my shortest relationships where when I only had a car.
No secrets helps.
Being honest about what I get out of riding and what I do to minimise the risks is the bulk of why no woman other than my mother has ever tried to stop me.
Positive reinforcement by way of my better moods and more assistance with chores on riding days does the rest. Pretty sure that would come to an abrupt end if I started lying about the circumstances of damage.

Oops slight lie there. One woman tried to suggest a motorcycle was not befitting a man in her company. I think she was quite surprised to find she was no longer in my company.

I gave up riding for six years because I couldn't afford both and I needed a car.
After 6 years of constant depression and alienating most of the people who mattered to me I got another bike.
I still get bouts of depression. But that is much more manageable than constant.


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[Big Dog]

I am not suggesting a bike is more important than a human. I am suggesting to give yourself fully to another you must first know who you are and be that person.

If they matter they don't mind.
If they mind they don't matter.

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[Tigadee]

Fair enough but what works for you won't likely work for me. I'd rather peace in the household, me still riding and no major harm to anyone, so win-win.

If I tried to explain that I'd had a skid down the road, the bike will be gone, I'd be miserable and would probably never hear the end of it. If I'd broken bones or anything serious, I wouldn't mind coming clean - might even give up riding myself.

But not for a few scratches and small broken parts (on the bike) and hardly any injuries. I consider myself very lucky to have come out of it unscathed - it could've been much worse. That would still be scant consolation for the Missus. She knows something went wrong anyway... Let's leave it at that.

"It's alright, honey, I should have had broken bones and lost skin but I'm fine! So see, riding motorcycles isn't so scary! Don't worry!" ... Yeah right.

[nzspokes]

It would seem Sass has moved on to marital advice.

Glad everybody is ok.

Next week as Peter is the trained guy I vote he gives a lecture on accident scene management.

[caseye]

Just glad that there wasn't two SASS riders down last night. Pleased that the both of you are OK, lessons leaned?
Yes I'm asking, were there lessons learned?
Best thing you two can do is talk this all the way out with your ride mates and of course the cock heads here on KB who WILL deride you for making errors.
Don't worry about them, make sure your fellow riders understand fully what happened and know how to avoid doing it themselves.
World wouldn't be the same without me ol mate TIG.
Need space, raised bike platform, tools and a bit of fuck knows etc , let me know, either of you.

[Rikard]

Yes lesson learned, avoid gravel and have your headlight adjusted properly. Didn't see the gravel on the road, flicked the bike, went straight down.

Thanks for the offer caseye. At this stage I should be fine. Just need to get my hands on a new shift lever and rod. Not sure how long that will take but I'd love to be up and running if not by the weekend then at least by the next week.

Thanks again for the support guys. Absolutely gutted to have dropped my bike so soon after picking it up but at least there wasn't too much damage and I was able to walk away uninjured.


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[Sis]

We were all affected by what happened on Tuesday night. And it will have an effect on our riding.
The trick is to recognise it and take action to mitigate the issues.

google search for the particular issues you might feel you want to brush up on. There might be something we can practise next Tuesday.

I plan on bringing some material (reading material) on accident scenes and management next Tuesday.

[Tigadee]

Just glad that there wasn't two SASS riders down last night. Pleased that the both of you are OK, lessons leaned?
Yes I'm asking, were there lessons learned?
World wouldn't be the same without me ol mate TIG.

I’m good, thanks. I saw it coming and know why it happened and am bloody lucky I got off so lightly. Overcooked the corner and came in too fast - counter-steered for dear life but I figure I didn’t lean enough since I could feel the bike not tipping in fast enough and ended up too close to the edge and hit the sand/gravel. Was too dark to see round the corner too and misjudged how tight it was.

Bitch of a thing to happen but I could still ride the bike home and only have a sore right knee and left elbow (and those are mostly 98% good now). Knee pad and textile took the brunt of my landing and so yeah, am very lucky...

Bent handlebar, broken side mirror, broken front brake lever, munted throttle cables, bent rear brake lever, scratches to some of the body and engine covers... that seems to be the extent of the damage to the bike. *whew* Good old Honda quality, aye?

[Tigadee]

Irony of it is that I was doing so well in the car park exercises, rode confidently through the roadworks and earlier dark corners of the Hunuas and was enjoying my ride...

Then again, after so many months away from SASS and the open road, I should've taken it easy - especially with some difficulty seeing in the dark.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

I've basically stopped riding in the dark atm... headlight angle adjusters have corroded solid so i'm getting some wd40 into it trying to loosen it all up. Good to know everyone is ok and its only metal and pride thats damaged

[eldog]

I plan on bringing some material (reading material) on accident scenes and management next Tuesday.

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week made me think about it....

[eldog]

Irony of it is that I was doing so well in the car park exercises, rode confidently through the roadworks and earlier dark corners of the Hunuas and was enjoying my ride...

Then again, after so many months away from SASS and the open road, I should've taken it easy - especially with some difficulty seeing in the dark.

Pride before a fall.

I had this problem with mine, good frame of mind, went thru 3 very slippery corners, (1-oil, 1-pine needles, 1 car pulled out) all just prior to my accident corner.
just a bit too much over confidence that I had done the right thing on those corners so I was 'safe'.
just didn't see the change in surface road condition mid corner(road works stopped mid corner).


Most important, you are OK. and I have learnt from your post to be more careful esp in the dark.

[nzspokes]

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week made me think about it....

This is a good point and will be putting some thought into it. I will be looking into first aid kits and gear to carry.

[Big Dog]

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week made me think about it....

At a minimum i have done a first aid course at least once every 5 years for the last 28 years. Sometimes more often for work or relating to some hobby or other.
I don't carry a kit any more because I have thrown out 100's of dollars of mouldy or water damaged kit and never needed it in the the 20+ road accidents I have stopped for. Usually there is a better equipped car on scene before it gets to anything a bike size kit can cope with.

Knowledge is the set of keys you must carry:
Understand how to manage a scene.
Understand how to report an accident for the best outcome.
Know when, why and how to remove a helmet. Getting this wrong can end a life or change it significantly.
Know some first aid and how to think outside the box. When someone is bleeding to death they need you to stop the bleeding far more than they need you to have the right size bandage.

Fortunately I have never stopped on the road for a fatality, excluding major medical emergencies. 2 strokes and a heart attack.
Luckily: Most there has been a medical professional (either off duty or in a big white van) on the scene before I have finished securing it.

If you are prepared it is not a scary or traumatic thing. It kept me awake for weeks the first stroke, I was 13. So I did every discounted or free first aid course I could.
Road oriented AA ones through school, home and child oriented ones through my brothers play centre etc etcetera.


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[Big Dog]

This is a good point and will be putting some thought into it. I will be looking into first aid kits and gear to carry.

Recommended by St. John's last time I asked. 5years ago.
Blunt scissors.
Sharp knife.
I elasticised bandage
1 non elastic bandage
1 triangle bandage.
5 large gauze.
1 roll sports tape
1 roll surgical tape
Box of plasters.
Mouth to mouth dam.
5 pairs of non latex surgical gloves.
Med and large ziplock bags.
CPR card.

Everything can be improvised but that list will make that easier.


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