South Auckland Street Skills

[Maakz]

WE WILL NOT FORGET YOU & You are NOT the only broken arrow...there are so many things you don't know, but this isn't the forum. Hey, i'm an avowed soloist and yet I ride with SASS whenever I can swing it. I made that commitment back in 2008 and it helps..peops aren't half bad too LOL.... Come a long way in terms of self growth. Yesterday several F*&$ Faces almost clocked me and this morning a little gunmetal blue hatch almost took me out by crossing into my lane where Newton merges with K Rd (2 lanes left turning), doddering old fogey half blind and not a care in the world - totally oblivious to their crappy driving. In the old days I would have chased that F*&%KER like a harpy and would have started smashing windows but I saw it coming-made counter moves and let it go without losing my rag or stewing onnit for the day. Come back eldog...intuition, skill & experience are they keys mate. To the young fulla from across the shore who graced us with his presence and his knowledge of cult classic tv trivia, pleasure & hope to see ya back, promise we'll do car park skills & fun it up.

[eldog]

WE WILL NOT FORGET YOU & You are NOT the only broken arrow...there are so many things you don't know, but this isn't the forum. Hey, i'm an avowed soloist and yet I ride with SASS whenever I can swing it. I made that commitment back in 2008 and it helps..peops aren't half bad too LOL.... Come a long way in terms of self growth. Come back eldog...intuition, skill & experience are they keys mate. To the young fulla from across the shore who graced us with his presence and his knowledge of cult classic tv trivia, pleasure & hope to see ya back, promise we'll do car park skills & fun it up.

I will be back, but need to sort myself out, by myself - there is something missing I need to sort, I still dont really know what it is.

Yes the young fellow did ride well, he didnt know the road and i wasnt helping. I slowed down several times so he could see my light.

Obviously I caused drama. so I will work on my skills before I come back.

The car park skills really helped my riding but need to do them correctly and regularily (weekly or more) esp slow speed stuff

[nzspokes]

So the camera footage is not much good. Will review it when Im not tired but dont think its worth it.

Forgot to mention my hand. Turns out its a normal complication of the surgery. Excess scar tissue. Having therapy for it now.

[nzspokes]

For Fraser. Bit of night time reading.....

Just something I jotted down when I got home.

SUSPENSION FEEL

FORKS

LACK OF REBOUND DAMPING (FORK)
The fork offers a supremely plush ride, especially when riding straight up. When the pace picks up, however, the feeling of control is lost. The fork feels mushy, and traction "feel" is poor. After hitting bumps at speed, the front tire tends to chatter or bounce. When flicking the bike into a corner at speed, the front tire begins to chatter and lose traction. This translates into an unstable feel at the clip-ons. As speed increases and steering inputs become more aggressive, a lack of control begins to appear. Chassis attitude and pitch become a real problem, with the front end refusing to stabilise after the bike is countersteered hard into a turn.

TOO MUCH REBOUND DAMPING (FORK)
The ride is quite harsh--just the opposite of the plush feel of too little rebound. Rough surface makes the fork feel as if it's locking up with stiction and harshness. Under hard acceleration exiting bumpy corners, the front end feels like it wants to "wiggle" or "tankslap." The tire feels as if it isn't staying in contact with the surface when on the gas. The harsh, unforgiving ride makes the bike hard to control when riding through dips and rolling bumps at speed. The suspension's reluctance to maintain tire traction through these sections erodes rider confidence.

LACK OF COMPRESSION DAMPING (FORK)
Front end dive while on the brakes becomes excessive. The rear end of the motorcycle wants to "come around" when using the front brakes aggressively. The front suspension "bottoms out" with a solid hit under heavy braking and after hitting bumps. The front end has a mushy and semi-vague feeling--similar to lack of rebound damping.

TOO MUCH COMPRESSION DAMPING (FORK)
The ride is overly harsh, especially at the point when bumps and ripples are contacted by the front wheel. Bumps and ripples are felt directly; the initial "hit" is routed through the chassis instantly, with big bumps bouncing the tire off the surface. The bike's ride height is effected negatively--the front end winds up riding too high in the corners. Brake dive is reduced drastically, though the chassis is upset significantly by bumps encountered during braking.


REAR SHOCK

LACK OF REBOUND DAMPING (REAR SHOCK)
The ride is plush at cruising speeds, but as the pace increases, the chassis begins to wallow and weave through bumpy corners. This causes poor traction over bumps under hard acceleration; the rear tire starts to chatter due to a lack of wheel control. There is excessive chassis pitch through large bumps and dips at speed and the rear end rebounds too quickly, upsetting the chassis with a pogo-stick action.

TOO MUCH REBOUND DAMPING (REAR SHOCK)
This creates an uneven ride. The rear suspension compliance is poor and the "feel" is vague. Traction is poor over bumps during hard acceleration (due to lack of suspension compliance). The bike wants to run wide in corners since the rear end is "packing down"; this forces a nose-high chassis attitude, which slows down steering. The rear end wants to hop and skip when the throttle is chopped during aggressive corner entries.

LACK OF COMPRESSION DAMPING (REAR SHOCK)
There is too much rear end "squat" under acceleration; the bike wants to steer wide exiting corners (since the chassis is riding rear low/nose high). Hitting bumps at speed causes the rear to bottom out, which upsets the chassis. The chassis attitude is affected too much by large dips and ground-outs. Steering and control become difficult due to excessive suspension movement.

TOO MUCH COMPRESSION DAMPING (REAR SHOCK)
The ride is harsh, though not quite as bad as too much rebound; the faster you go, the worse it gets, however. Harshness hurts rear tire traction over bumps, especially during deceleration. There's little rear end "squat" under acceleration. Medium to large bumps are felt directly through the chassis; when hit at speed, the rear end kicks up.

[Sis]

So the camera footage is not much good. Will review it when Im not tired but dont think its worth it.

Forgot to mention my hand. Turns out its a normal complication of the surgery. Excess scar tissue. Having therapy for it now.

And what therapy would be , I wonder

[Maakz]

Poor Fraser got home work aka 'light reading" bahahahaha
Sis you are baddddddd!!!!!!!!

[nzspokes]

Update on ART days. Entry forms should be out next week. And Sis, I asked about you and they said they would check once they had an entry but shouldn't be a problem for group 1.

[f2dz]

Light at-work reading you mean. :P

Thanks Rob, will think more about the suspension thing. Might do a bit of my own tweaking first before making the drastic changes we talked about, but this is all good stuff. Considering just running the bike how it is for the first ART day and then changing things once I have a track day under my belt to reference. As of right now the bike feels pretty good to me but I'm easily not using most of its potential on the road.

Lance, you're a good rider and it's always good to see you at SASS. See you there next week... or else. I know where you live (at least someone does, and I can get them to tell me). But seriously, come on back bud.

Nice to have all the regulars for the ride as well as the indestructible Ninja. Hopefully not scared off by us all drinking coffee like pansies.

[Big Dog]

Does your bike have a built on water temp guage or something you have added yourself. If added by self interested in were you got it

I have only ever had built in ones. They normally measure oil or water temp so adding one is normally quite a specialist job. Personally I don't rate them. I believe DRC do a universal one that you fit the sensor around a head bolt. They are for diet bikes but a simple fit and for measuring head temp.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

I have only ever had built in ones. They normally measure oil or water temp so adding one is normally quite a specialist job. Personally I don't rate them. I believe DRC do a universal one that you fit the sensor around a head bolt. They are for diet bikes but a simple fit and for measuring head temp.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Ta. I will have a look.
Interested in motor temp and ambient air temp in case of ICE.
There is no temp sensor on the bike

[eldog]

Update on ART days. Entry forms should be out next week. And Sis, I asked about you and they said they would check once they had an entry but shouldn't be a problem for group 1.

Do they take broken riders?

[nzspokes]

Light at-work reading you mean. :P

Thanks Rob, will think more about the suspension thing. Might do a bit of my own tweaking first before making the drastic changes we talked about, but this is all good stuff. Considering just running the bike how it is for the first ART day and then changing things once I have a track day under my belt to reference. As of right now the bike feels pretty good to me but I'm easily not using most of its potential on the road.

Lance, you're a good rider and it's always good to see you at SASS. See you there next week... or else. I know where you live (at least someone does, and I can get them to tell me). But seriously, come on back bud.

Nice to have all the regulars for the ride as well as the indestructible Ninja. Hopefully not scared off by us all drinking coffee like pansies.

Sweet as. Your first time will be pretty laid back. Bike requirement is just a good WOF standard. Your biggest problem will be stopping Sharry stealing your bike for a few laps....

Yes we will see you there next week Lance.

Im hardcore, I have my coffee in a takeaway cup.....

[Big Dog]

Ambient air are a little easier.
If you have a screen a simple and cheap option is one of those stick on thermometer stickers from the pet store or hardware store. Accurate enough for what you want, never needs batteries, waterproof and easy to remove. Colour coded to give that at a glance answer. Never done for myself but got one for $6 for a mate once. Intended as a prank. Because he was forever going on about black ice. The Irony? The ice risk temp the whole gauge goes black.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Engineers and the like are fond of gauges, measures sight glasses etc.
Tactile learners tend to be more "I feel like xyz is wrong." Etc.
That is me. It drives my work mates up the wall when I say "look I can't give you a stat that says why but the server needs a restart. " or " my spidey senses tell me we need to do xyz to that server before it is too late". I am not sure what bothers them more. That I don't have the measurement to back it up or how often I am right.

I am working on being able to do both but be wary of losing sight of the shear pleasure of riding to collecting data and analysing everything to death.

Since I have been commuting on the CB I have been amazed how often I have found myself pining for the raw simplicity of the DR.
Focusing all on staying on and enjoying the adventure instead of feeling the constant need to monitor your dash.


That said, if data collection and analysis is your jam, party on.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

Engineers and the like are fond of gauges, measures sight glasses etc.
Tactile learners tend to be more "I feel like xyz is wrong." Etc.
That is me. It drives my work mates up the wall when I say "look I can't give you a stat that says why but the server needs a restart. " or " my spidey senses tell me we need to do xyz to that server before it is too late". I am not sure what bothers them more. That I don't have the measurement to back it up or how often I am right.

I am working on being able to do both but be wary of losing sight of the shear pleasure of riding to collecting data and analysing everything to death.

Since I have been commuting on the CB I have been amazed how often I have found myself pining for the raw simplicity of the DR.
Focusing all on staying on and enjoying the adventure instead of feeling the constant need to monitor your dash.


That said, if data collection and analysis is your jam, party on.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I get it and try to do both as well.
I will try the simple ambient temp trick - lighting for country riding is a little poor so I dont know if it will work worth a go.
Bike is water cooled there is no indication what temp engine is at apart from a small black LED on the DASH - hard to see and I dont want to be looking for it.
Engine Temp will show if something going slowly wrong, maybe water pump stuck or blockage etc going to fit a unit but want to look at sensor as I dont want to drill block etc.