The Warehouse selling bike oil

[FJRider]

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So going by this thread...............I shouldn't shop at the Warehouse, nor the Supermarket, Harvey Normans in Aus owned, Mitre 10 Mega is out as well, my local bottle shop is owned by Indians, as is the Dairy next door.........................I'm not supposed to order off the internet either.................crickey.

Doe's that mean McDonalds is a no go too?............

Buy New Zealand ... if you can find anyone making anything IN New Zealand ... anymore ...

[Pixie]

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Possibly the guy i had to deal with in a Honda shop recently should be working in one,wanted a throttle cable for granted a bitsa race bike made up of an NSR250 frame and XR600 motor,after he fucked me about with "i cant read the numbers on the cable" for what seemed an enternity i said "theres a better than fair chance all things considered (told him about what bike the broken one was off) that it was either an NSR or an XR,more head scratching and shoulder shrugging later i gave up called into a differently branded dealership and picked up an XR one they had lying about with a simple "try this Mike if its no good bring it back and we will go from there".Service eh,wonderful.

As long as they employ morons and slobs,I will do all my servicing myself.Too many fucked up service jobs over the years to do otherwise.
My current bike was only serviced once by a "qualfied XXX brand technician",at it's first service,and he managed to strip 2 cam cover screws.

[Robert Taylor]

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So going by this thread...............I shouldn't shop at the Warehouse, nor the Supermarket, Harvey Normans in Aus owned, Mitre 10 Mega is out as well, my local bottle shop is owned by Indians, as is the Dairy next door.........................I'm not supposed to order off the internet either.................crickey.

Doe's that mean McDonalds is a no go too?............

McDonalds must be a Scottish restaurant?

[Tony.OK]

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McDonalds must be a Scottish restaurant?

Haha.............they pay too well to be Scottish, sounds like they may have "whale fillet burgers" on the menu soon, your mate "Key" seems to support whaling all of a sudden, wonder if that'll be available at the Red Shed's too.

Whats funny though is the Warehouse is gonna be even more popular soon once GST goes up, the only people able to afford to shop elsewhere will be those on a benefit cause they're gonna get a payrise soon.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Well a thread like this really ticks me off. Why the hell should we support any business local or overseas when they would charge us 30-40% more for something that you could otherwise buy off ebay + shipping + taxes cheaper?? Why on earth should I spend my hard earned money putting bread on someone else s table? Is this a charity or have not enough of us New Zealanders understood the laws of supply and demand? Business are "in business" to make money, then why should we as the consumer not want the best price? Bloody ticks me off, I will keep buying from ebay until things get real in NZ. Just purchased me a pair of A stars GP pro gloves for 45% less than what bike shops here offered it to me for (inc shipping) be here in a week. Rant over.

[Quasievil]

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A stars GP pro gloves for 45% less than what bike shops here offered it to me for (inc shipping) be here in a week. Rant over.

Im very disappointed in you, I could have sold you better gloves for a discount.
I think now I will close my business as what's the point

[Cr1MiNaL]

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Im very disappointed in you, I could have sold you better gloves for a discount.
I think now I will close my business as what's the point

haha I'm just making a point. Your business is one other NZ business should look upto. In such a short time you have built up so much goodwill with your kind gestures that I would fucking pay full price and leave a 10% tip just because I know things....

[Virago]

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...Why on earth should I spend my hard earned money putting bread on someone else s table?...

Because that's what we do in a co-operative society. What puts bread on your table?

[Cr1MiNaL]

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Because that's what we do in a co-operative society. What puts bread on your table?

bwaaahahaha really? what society do you live in. I work for my money (when I wasn't a returning student) I get paid the average wage a worker in the finance industry with 4 yrs experiece and a degree to boot would get - nothing more nothing less. I didn't demand to be paid 10k a year more than my collegue doing the same job with the same efficiency even though I could be replaced for cheaper. Why don't you read the post in its entirety instead of isolating a small piece of a sentence to make it sound like a paradox?

[Robert Taylor]

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Because that's what we do in a co-operative society. What puts bread on your table?

Thats clear enough to me, whether we are in denial about it or not we all to a large degree depend on one another. im happier that Im supporting a small NZ business down the road and helping to put food in the mouths of their employees and dependents. As opposed to supporting some faceless Yanks or Asians.

[Virago]

Those small-minded individuals who compare overseas internet pricing with NZ retail pricing, and declare the NZ bike shops to be rip-off merchants, are incapable of seeing the whole picture.

The costs of running a bike shop are quite substantial. When all these costs are added into mix, and 12.5% GST is slapped on top, the bike shops are lucky if they can make enough to put bread on the table.

Internet sales are the final nail in the coffin. As the shop sales dwindle, the running costs rise.

Those who spend their money overseas, but expect that the shops will be there for them if needed, are sadly delusional.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I am only making educated argument here and anyone who wishes to engage me might. So from the last few posts I infer that consumers must continue to support "bike shops" that charge 30-40% more than overseas simply to keep these businesses a-float. That inference is starting to sound like those businesses are not businesses and are in fact charities, and the consumer is in fact underrtaking charity work by purchasing those items.

Of cause I see the big picture - it is quite clear. However, most views here are biased from business owners themselves. Views in the end are just that - views, they do not sway or influence decision. Facts on the other hand give a very lucid explanation as to the course the future will take. It is not really my concern what the mark ups or gst a shop has to pay, as I don't benefit from it. Nothing personal - it's just business. After all is that not what you (bike shops etc) are in? When taxes or gst or the exchange rate drops - pass those costs on to the consumer - easy. Well the educated amongst us find that hard to digest.

I expect fair equitable prices, for I am a consumer and without me you will fail. Fact.
I will shop around for the best deal. Fact.
I understand the laws of demand and supply. Fact.
It's nothing personal. Fact.


Perhaps the younger generations are the ones who actually see the Big Picture and see past the horizons of New Zealand.

Engage me logically if you will. don't just take a dig.

[Tony.OK]

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Thats clear enough to me, whether we are in denial about it or not we all to a large degree depend on one another. im happier that Im supporting a small NZ business down the road and helping to put food in the mouths of their employees and dependents. As opposed to supporting some faceless Yanks or Asians.

Trouble is Robert that the small bizzo down the road for so many is quite frankly just shit when it comes to customer service. I believe things are slowly starting to turn around, in a good way, but there's just something about NZ that is happy to accept crap service. How many posts have been on KB about bad service etc?

Now "you" for one have changed my perception of an NZ bizzo and what it should be, even though I "imported" my shock you were happy to help me out and in doing so gained me as a loyal customer for my other purchases/service needs. You answer your emails/ph calls promptly and go that extra mile..........................you obviously see that service = income.

Now if you could get all shops (for anything) to realise this I think many of these posts would cease to exist.

Fair enough NZ is a small market and shops have to cover their costs...............but until they start to realise that if they piss customers off with bad service, there are other alternatives available nowadays. Don't cry when your bussiness suffers.

Sorry to rant a bit, just had a shit dealing with a large dealership about the wife's broken down car.................they've just been added to my "get fucked, I wont be back" list.

[Cr1MiNaL]

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Now "you" for one have changed my perception of an NZ bizzo and what it should be, even though I "imported" my shock you were happy to help me out and in doing so gained me as a loyal customer for my other purchases/service needs. You answer your emails/ph calls promptly and go that extra mile..........................you obviously see that service = income.
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I'll have to agree with Tony here, don't even know if you remember Robert but you looked at my shock mid last year, answered my questions and made suggestions, also provided me with a booklet on the ohlins and also courriered it back up to me in Auckland - prompt and efficient. Did I buy if off you? No. Have we met? No. So guess what? Next time I'm buying something I could get cheaper elsewhere I'll still come to you with a smile. People have to make you want to do it. That's the only way a stubborn young pratt like me is ever going to learn.

[Quasievil]

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haha I'm just making a point. Your business is one other NZ business should look upto. In such a short time you have built up so much goodwill with your kind gestures that I would fucking pay full price and leave a 10% tip just because I know things....

You know I love ya............just thinking I wrote that a bit wrong, it was a friendly gest bro lol