Oil types?

[JMemonic]

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People, two things, read your bike manual and follow the recommendation, and consider the oil companies recommendation, whats so freckin hard about it

Hmm ok that's a good question. I read the manual and tried to do exactly as you say, however the manufacture of the oil has recently (i.e. in the last couple of years) stopped bringing it its brand name products and gone to an authorised supplier who has never imported the product, I then went back to the manufacturer who informed me they never brought the product into the country.

Kinda stuffs that plan whole idea huh.

[JMemonic]

Question I seem to be reading oil types can affect your catalytic converters is this correct?

[Teflon]

https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English...ollection.aspx

[Quasievil]

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Question I seem to be reading oil types can affect your catalytic converters is this correct?

Yes, but more so they are designed to help protect the filters, this is particularly the case with modern Diesel engines with very complex emission standards.
what kinda of vehicle you talking about, If I dont or my info doesnt I can find out from a Mobil engineer on Tuesday for you

[JMemonic]

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Yes, but more so they are designed to help protect the filters, this is particularly the case with modern Diesel engines with very complex emission standards.
what kinda of vehicle you talking about, If I dont or my info doesnt I can find out from a Mobil engineer on Tuesday for you

The ST3, it has cats (or given the physical size should they be kittens hmm) and it could well be possible that they have recently suffered at the hands of an oil change.

[pritch]

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Heres another excellent read.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf
And considering it's published in the land of lawyers, if any of the results were untrue, or unfair in any way, amsoil would be getting sued left right and centre and they would have to remove it from their website.

That report is discussed in the thread I mentioned. While not untrue it could be said to be... ummmm slanted(?).

Amsoil doesn't seem to be rubbished anywhere that I've seen but I've never seen it in this country and there are good alternatives such as Motul and Mobil readily available. (The omission of Castrol and Shell from that very short list of good alternatives is not unintentional.)

[TripleZee Dyno]

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That report is discussed in the thread I mentioned. While not untrue it could be said to be... ummmm slanted(?).

Amsoil doesn't seem to be rubbished anywhere that I've seen but I've never seen it in this country and there are good alternatives such as Motul and Mobil readily available. (The omission of Castrol and Shell from that very short list of good alternatives is not unintentional.)

We stock Amsoil, so now you know.
Regarding the report I dont think its slanted because reading about oil testing and standards (from places other than Amsoil) the tests are standardised tests designed to evaluate oil performance. Amsoil had another report out a few years ago, same format and testing , where Amsoil came first in 7 categories and were top 5 for the rest. This test they are first in 5 categories, top 5 in 5 and in the middlle for one. Overall they still came out first with Mobil one second. Same as last time. Other oils performed well for some tests but failed badly in other areas which dragged their overall score down.
Methodology included blind testing at 5 different ASTM certified labs.
Biggest thing is none of the other oil companies actually refutes the results, and I firmly believe the only reason they dont is because they cant.
In the report they actually name oils which fail tests. If that isnt inviting a lawyers letter what is.
I used Amsoil for quite a few years and then couldnt get it. Used Mobil1 for a few years and now I get in Amsoil so am using it again.
In the shop I sell Amsoil, Mobil1, and Supercheap packs and I leave it up to the customer to decide.
I believe its the best oil out there, so I use it.
If anyone does want Amsoil give us a call.
$30 a qt MCF and MCV
cheers

[Quasievil]

Tests are always an interesting animal, on the basis that every oil company has one that rates theirs higher than anyone elses.
and there are so many of them oil companies would need a whole department with a massive budget to go around refuting the results.

[TripleZee Dyno]

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Tests are always an interesting animal, on the basis that every oil company has one that rates theirs higher than anyone elses.
and there are so many of them oil companies would need a whole department with a massive budget to go around refuting the results.

As far as I understand it ASTM, SAE and ACC (American Chemistry Council) are responsible for testing and performance standards on behalf of API. and in order for a manufacturer to use an API rating their oil has to pass a certification process laid out by ASTM, SAE, and ACC.
The ASTM testing in Amsoils study are part of this certification process.
Any oil which carries an API rating has had these same tests done so other manufacturers already have their own results if they wished to refute anything.
One advantage Amsoil probably has is its small size allows it to respond more quickly to any new standards API comes up with. Eg Amsoil MCV is API SG SL and JASO MA2 rated whereas Mobil1 Vtwin is API SG SH and JASO MA.
A big company like Mobil will have a lot of old spec oil to get rid of before they push the new stuff. I guess.

[pritch]

Mobil V Twin is a 50 weight oil specifically for cruisers. It's not intended for "performance" V twins such as Ducati or VTRs etc.
Mobil do another oil for performance bikes.

[Blackflagged]

Synthetic oil Made Artificially? Think this has been covered in some of the previous links but i haven`t read them.And for my fellow lazy late comers!:Regards Synthetic oils - alot of oils sold as synthetic came out of the ground , the Yanks wanted to use the Name synthetic for Hyper refined mineral oils that had the same properties as True synthetic.So off to court they went, and won!.When it says trisythetic is actually a Hyper refined mineral oil,with things added.At that time Amsoil and Motul and maybe Pennzoil, Redline and others were true synthetic`s, as is in made by man, not from squashed dinosaurs!

If used in a Car, a Oil pressure Gauge, can tell you a fair bit about the service life, of some much hyped oils.

[pritch]

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the Yanks wanted to use the Name synthetic for Hyper refined mineral oils that had the same properties as True synthetic.So off to court they went, and won!.

I believe that it was Castrol who went to court, first in the UK then in the USA. Shell now also label oils as "synthetic" that are not synthetic in the sense that Motul, Amsoil, Mobil, etc use that term.

[Quasievil]

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Mobil V Twin is a 50 weight oil specifically for cruisers. It's not intended for "performance" V twins such as Ducati or VTRs etc.
Mobil do another oil for performance bikes.

Yup, the Mobil recommendation is MOBIL 1 Racing 4T 10w-40 for (as my inquiry) A Ducati 1098 or a Honda VTR firestorm