At long last ... i see this issue has died the natural death it deserved.. So much heat was generated on this issue ... so little light ... our safety is 99% down to us... just like walking in the world really
At long last ... i see this issue has died the natural death it deserved.. So much heat was generated on this issue ... so little light ... our safety is 99% down to us... just like walking in the world really

How many people have actually lost their lives to the cheesecutter?
i cut my finger on a cheesegrater once
A single event ... and a damn silly death... it could have been a tree or a truck or a house
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Fuck that stunk too.
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So one death after a few years?
Just think if one had been between the centreline crossing campervan and the 4 bikers who died...is that a silence I hear?
Steve is that you?
"Every time you set your ass on a bike, you're playing a game of Russian Roulette between yourself and your own stupidity."
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Winding up drongos and over sensitive KBers for over 12,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal" & "ships are safe in the harbour - but that's not what ships are for".
Obviously a tragic accident, but one that could have been avoided had the campervan driver been paying more attention.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So other road users are allowed to be inattentive, and have a safety barrier stop them. But if bikers are inattentive, they are likely to lose limbs from contact with the same safety barrier?
Also, without the accident details, we can't be sure whether WRBs would have saved them, in some cases (bigger vehicles especially) they hook the front wheel causing a loss of control, and if the road is not wide enough, the deflection of the WRB could be such that the campervan goes into the oncoming lane anyway.
There are reasons why EU countries only allow WRB with bike friendly coverings, and why others ban them completely.
"There are reasons why EU countries only allow WRB with bike friendly coverings, and why others ban them completely."
The EU wont let you hold your own cock to piss.... in case of infection ... grow up
If that is the level of argument you are going to put up, (you remind me of IL4 quite a bit) it's my cue to leave.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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What's a cheesecutterI have no problems with them.
"it's my cue to leave."
These are adult issues so thats appropriate
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