My response to the proposed strategy by MAG-NZ

**Tunahunter** · 12th April 2011, 09:42

Thanks for this

Copy of an e-mail to MAG-NZ - responding to their mass circulation e-mail

I disagree with the strategy of riding to ACC offices and then to Nat Party offices - this would achieve nothing and be just a traffic mess - the best action would be to have another Bikhoi to the Parliament where all political parties would be invited to present speakers who would outline their policy statement on the three issues that you have raised - they would be expected to lay their views on the line or be booed off the stage. These statements could be recorded by you guys and presented to all NZ bikers as the voting options they have come November.

Cheers

**MSTRS:Me** · 12th April 2011, 10:33

I like that. But why single out bikers as voters? The issues affect all NZ motorists.

**CookMySock** · 12th April 2011, 11:16

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I disagree with the strategy of riding to ACC offices and then to Nat Party offices - this would achieve nothing and be just a traffic mess

Uh huh.

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the best action would be to have another Bikhoi to the Parliament where all political parties would be invited to present speakers who would outline their policy statement on the three issues that you have raised - they would be expected to lay their views on the line or be booed off the stage.

aaaaand that will achieve what?

**Bald Eagle** · 12th April 2011, 11:24

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Uh huh.

aaaaand that will achieve what?

We could all have a really nice ride to Wellington for a latte.

**Tunahunter** · 12th April 2011, 11:25

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Uh huh.

aaaaand that will achieve what?

It will give all KB 'ers an idea of the stance of the various political parties on these issues - and if they feel strongly enough about the various options, they (the KB'ers) can vote accordingly

**Maha** · 12th April 2011, 11:26

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Thanks for this

Copy of an e-mail to MAG-NZ - responding to their mass circulation e-mail

I disagree with the strategy of riding to ACC offices and then to Nat Party offices - this would achieve nothing and be just a traffic mess - the best action would be to have another Bikhoi to the Parliament where all political parties would be invited to present speakers who would outline their policy statement on the three issues that you have raised - they would be expected to lay their views on the line or be booed off the stage. These statements could be recorded by you guys and presented to all NZ bikers as the voting options they have come November.

Cheers

Hold your tounge Maha........

**Tunahunter** · 12th April 2011, 11:26

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We could all have a really nice ride to Wellington for a latte.

That would be Tickety boo

**Katman:Me** · 12th April 2011, 11:32

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the best action would be to have another Bikhoi to the Parliament

That would work well for all Wellington and surrounding district motorcyclists.

It's quite another thing to motivate an entire country's worth of motorcyclists.

**Spearfish** · 12th April 2011, 11:36

at least 10 characters.

**Tunahunter** · 12th April 2011, 11:42

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That would work well for all Wellington and surrounding district motorcyclists.

It's quite another thing to motivate an entire country's worth of motorcyclists.

Yes Katman, but the focus of political issues is in Wellington - that's where the cameras turn out for such events, that's where the mileage is to be made - and that's where the politicians are most of the time. Anything else but a concentrated hit, right in the guts will be diluted and meaningless

**Katman:Me** · 12th April 2011, 11:44

For any protest action to have a hope of achieving the desired results we first have to shore up our own side of the argument.

We have a long way to go in that respect.

**allycatz** · 12th April 2011, 11:45

Was reading an Oz bike magazine and I see they have a National Fallen Bikers Day. Maybe we could have something similar in the main centres here, followed by static road car/ bike safety awareness displays (ie looking out for each other), inclusive police displays and ambos. Minutes silence and roll call for our past riders. Gotta be better than any militant action

**bogan** · 12th April 2011, 11:54

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Was reading an Oz bike magazine and I see they have a National Fallen Bikers Day. Maybe we could have something similar in the main centres here, followed by static road car/ bike safety awareness displays (ie looking out for each other), inclusive police displays and ambos. Minutes silence and roll call for our past riders. Gotta be better than any militant action

I reckon we could get behind that

If you want to get the ball rolling on it, join up to the mag-nz forums and post away.

**wysper** · 12th April 2011, 12:02

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Was reading an Oz bike magazine and I see they have a National Fallen Bikers Day. Maybe we could have something similar in the main centres here, followed by static road car/ bike safety awareness displays (ie looking out for each other), inclusive police displays and ambos. Minutes silence and roll call for our past riders. Gotta be better than any militant action

Nice concept, but in this instance, wouldn't it just be used to fuel the anti bike thing.

Pollys going... look at all the bikers dying, and they will continue to die unless we do something to save them from themselves.

**allycatz** · 12th April 2011, 13:32

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Nice concept, but in this instance, wouldn't it just be used to fuel the anti bike thing.

Pollys going... look at all the bikers dying, and they will continue to die unless we do something to save them from themselves.

Isnt it about changing public misconception that we are masters of our own destiny? Police, ambos and ACC have some good static displays about ALL road users safety. The same driver that uses the "OOps I didnt see you there in my blind spot" is just as capable of putting themselves under a truck for the same mistake IE. not physically turning to look before a manouvre

Yes we would have to publicly accept culpabilty for our mistakes but its about getting other road users to accept theirs as well and more bikers go down as a result of their mistakes than ours