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    Mini-motard for bucket racing?

    I'm really tempted to get myself one of those to do some racing next year:
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-415534303.htm

    Anybody using them in bucket racing? Or is all bigger frame sport type bikes?

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    As Mr Hitcher so eloquently puts it.

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    Read the above thread before handing over your hard earned cash. As far as I know the eligibility of these machines as a bucket has yet to be determined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisTamunno View Post
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    I'm really tempted to get myself one of those to do some racing next year:
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-415534303.htm

    Anybody using them in bucket racing? Or is all bigger frame sport type bikes?
    looks good sounds good but you realy need the supllier to give10 people bikes and set up there own class

    woud be way cooler (than running a bike that is realy no good for buckets) and I'd put my hand up to race one
    pitbike.jpgyes they are raced



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    Just buy a legal bike. Fxr is easiest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
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    Just buy a legal bike. Fxr is easiest.
    ditto that and cheaper

    or start a new class called mini MOTARD (I'm going out to get a crf100 just in case)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisTamunno View Post
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    I'm really tempted to get myself one of those to do some racing next year:
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-415534303.htm

    Anybody using them in bucket racing? Or is all bigger frame sport type bikes?
    I have emailed them to see if they can give us some idea of how many have been sold, impling we could create a class under supplimentary rules IF there are enough around and IF they are not eligible under F4 rules, which they may not be due to their stating they are designed for racing.

    Plenty of Mini-Motards out there and we see them racing but not generally as high spec as this.

    If you were nice and slow and didn't fly past everyone you would also probably get away with it. (but I didn't say that OK)

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    Mini motard class... pretty please!

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    I have emailed them to see if they can give us some idea of how many have been sold, impling we could create a class under supplimentary rules IF there are enough around and IF they are not eligible under F4 rules, which they may not be due to their stating they are designed for racing.

    Plenty of Mini-Motards out there and we see them racing but not generally as high spec as this.

    If you were nice and slow and didn't fly past everyone you would also probably get away with it. (but I didn't say that OK)
    I e-mail them too

    I'm really excited about the idea of a mini motard class, perhaps to be raced in the same events of buckets? I know there are lot of people with regular pit bikes around the North Island ... maybe can see if we can get a few together so to get a deal on motard setup? Just tasting the water to see if there is interest.
    Here is some Ozi action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZFno6cc3pY

    P.S. don't want to hijack the bucket thread just want to increase the chances for affordable motorbike racing in NZ
    Any interest post or pm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisTamunno View Post
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    P.S. don't want to hijack the bucket thread just want to increase the chances for affordable motorbike racing in NZ
    Any interest post or pm me.
    Well it is your thread so you can take it in whatever direction you want. And besides if you don't do it yourself we will take it off track by the time we get to page 2.

    My $0.02 on the subject. Personally racing pit bikes does not hold much appeal for me, and I would argue that there are already a number of "affordable" classes of motorbike racing available. Although it is always good to be looking at the next thing to ensure classes survive we need to be careful that we do not end up diluting the pool of racers we have coming into the sport across to many classes resulting in small grids. I believe that this is something that MNZ has been guilty of at different times and I have also seen it in other sporting organisations.

    As I say just my thoughts. I dont think anything is broke so no need to fix it. Feel free rip shit out of it as you see fit.

    For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumba View Post
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    I would argue that there are already a number of "affordable" classes of motorbike racing available.
    So if I had $1000 a year to race with. And that had to include entry fees, tyres, gas and a bike. The whole lot.
    What should I race?

    Back in the bad old days I used to be able to race a car for that kind of money. That included buying a car and getting a frame welded into it. The guys I was against had similar budgets (or less).

    Last bucket meet I went too had more money in tyres and motors than I have in my whole current bike. Just sayin - best not to dismiss him without hearing out some alternatives.
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    That's the thing I like most about buckets, there is a place for all budgets, and a good rider can do well on limited resources.

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    Grand a year race budget.
    I know of a bike (in wellington) that could be had for $500, that leaves $30 for entry fees and $15 to spend where you like, this is a seriously tight budget and I'd say you were better off with your grand as an operating budget instead of the $500 you have allowed yourself.
    This will get you racing, you won't be competive in A grade but will be having a bundle of laughs in B.
    As for the mini motard new class, I also think you are better off going with one of the existing classes, especially given that the asking price is above what a couple of competitive FXRs have gone for lately, I also suspect that it might be something that takes off initially and then fades as time goes on. Pockets were quite active for a while but have now all but died, I'd hate to commit the better part of two grand on a bike that may end up rotting in a shed due to a lack of machinery to compete against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
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    So if I had $1000 a year to race with. And that had to include entry fees, tyres, gas and a bike. The whole lot.
    What should I race?

    Back in the bad old days I used to be able to race a car for that kind of money. That included buying a car and getting a frame welded into it. The guys I was against had similar budgets (or less).

    Last bucket meet I went too had more money in tyres and motors than I have in my whole current bike. Just sayin - best not to dismiss him without hearing out some alternatives.
    i would say rc cars

    up to 2k to get a bike and gear (you need decent leathers helmit back protector boots and gloves )

    $50 to join a club
    $150 ? for a race licence
    $30 x 10 race meatings
    $? more for the bigger tracks $120+
    $ for gas and repairs
    $? slicks you only need to replace them every other year or 3 $100ish a pair second hand

    you may blow the buget the first year

    but after getting setup you wont be far out if you look after the bike
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    Hmmmm I am going to say no.

    Cheaper to make me a sand scolloper and do the beach sprints.

    And people wonder "why don't you race????"
    Speeding tickets are cheaper than a year racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
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    Hmmmm I am going to say no.

    Cheaper to make me a sand scolloper and do the beach sprints.

    And people wonder "why don't you race????"
    Speeding tickets are cheaper than a year racing.
    I hate to break it to you but you are wrong on both counts.

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