Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 21 of 21

Thread: Restore Resurrect Battery?

  1. #16
    Join Date
    1st September 2007 - 21:01
    Bike
    1993 Yamaha FJ 1200
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    6,448
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Good on you Neels.

    It is possible to zap a dead battery with a welder using a diode apparently but it sounds a bit dangerous to me. Plus electronics is not my strong suit.


    For everyone who says just buy a new one - yeah, understood. But there are supposedly 98 million wet cell batteries dumped every year in the world and that offends the conservationist in me. Plus...I like a challenge. Over and above that, the specific battery I'm annoyed with belongs to a tractor and costs $300 to replace. That's a lump of change for something only used a few times a year - and consequently only lasts a year. My bike battery has the same problem but somewhat cheaper.
    Either buy a battery minder ... or start a "start-up routine" for it .... every week or two, start the tractor up .... and a short drive.
    We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm - George Orwell

  2. #17
    Join Date
    3rd May 2005 - 11:51
    Bike
    1985 BMW R80RT, XR200
    Location
    Invercargill
    Posts
    1,247
    Thanks Trevor and a battery minder is on the plan.

    So here's my experiment which may be a waste of time but interesting to try. Apart from the big tractor battery I have two others to play with too.



    1. Empty the acid into a 3 litre bottle through a paper towel and funnel.

    2. Turn the battery upside down and flush with a hose.

    3. Fill the battery with water.

    4. Charge it overnight.

    5. Discharge by directly connecting the terminals, or through a headlight.

    6. Charge again, then discharge. And again.

    7. Mix up 250g of Epsom Salts in 500ml of hot water = 700ml by volume.

    8. Put most acid back in battery but leave enough room for the Epsom salt mix which is then added too.

    9. Charge battery and use it.

  3. #18
    Join Date
    3rd May 2005 - 11:51
    Bike
    1985 BMW R80RT, XR200
    Location
    Invercargill
    Posts
    1,247

    Warnings

    Warning: sulphuric acid is nasty stuff. Work near a tap or hose to wash because small splashes are hard to avoid.

    When a battery is charging, hydrogen gas is produced. One spark into an open cell will cause a bang. For that reason I leave the caps off and fill each cell to the top with water so the H disperses.

    Discharging using jumper leads generates substantial heat. I had to let the leads cool down 4 times. Using a headlight setup would be slower and safer.

    Using only water the tractor battery already holds a substantial charge and takes in 4 amps on the trickle charger. Looking hopeful.

    Just out of curiosity, today I discharged the big battery into a smaller marine 12v battery. The marine one is 4 years old, appears to be looked after but will barely take a charge. It got very excited to join the tractor battery: one cell almost boiled and the whole case heated up. But all 6 cells should show activity so its a work in progress.

    One slight downside of flushing and charging with water is the sulphate dissolved by the water (which is what I'm trying to do) is lost once the battery is finally emptied, before returning the acid. Consequently the acid will be a bit weak. Might try a hydrometer but I don't think its critical - I don't expect a renewed battery, simply an extended useful life.

  4. #19
    Join Date
    4th November 2003 - 14:00
    Bike
    BSA A10, Ducati MHR Mille
    Location
    Rangiora
    Posts
    7,681
    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    That's a lump of change for something only used a few times a year - and consequently only lasts a year. My bike battery has the same problem but somewhat cheaper.
    You need a battery tender for it
    "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre, C'est de la folie"

    Id Rather Passenger A Sidecar Than A Drink Driver.
    Check out www.badd.co.nz

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.

  5. #20
    Join Date
    8th October 2008 - 00:34
    Bike
    1997 Ducati 900 Superlight
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    112
    Good ideas but just a repeat of the warnings. I used to work in a business manufacturing Battery Chargers and Testers and had 2 or 3 batteries explode on me!! Not nice at all. The acid is obviously not healthy for eyes or skin and the clothes I was wearing fell apart in days.

    The Hydrogen produced while charging is very explosive, sufficient to split a battery in half!!

    Take care with naked flames(preferably none) and sparks....easy to generate for example if connecting or disconnecting a charger or the electrical connectors with the ignition still on.

    Also pays to do it with plenty of ventilation around to remove the gas and also as said earlier, access to water is a good idea if the battery does split.

  6. #21
    Join Date
    22nd November 2008 - 19:09
    Bike
    tiger 110
    Location
    rotovegas
    Posts
    614
    Do the quick fix if you want to, but it will only work for so long.ME, I dont want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere, so I replace with NEW.The Shorai's are awsome, I use because of the extra long cranking ability they have, but are not needed If you want for a every day commuter.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •