It's soooooo unfair (sniffle)

**placidfemme** · 19th January 2012, 13:20

Originally Posted by rastuscat

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Interesting.

One of my troops uses his new SMART device to run checks on every motorbike that goes past when he's at a checkpoint.

More than half of them show as having no WoF, no registration, registration on hold, or the rider having no or the incorrect licence.

There was me thinking all bike riders were law abiding citizens who we cops picked on totally unfairly. Seems it's fair after all.

Troll.

seriously? Targeting a minority... great thing to advertise to build public confidence in the force.

bad piggy

**Katman:Me** · 19th January 2012, 13:36

Originally Posted by avgas

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I dunno, some guys did a pretty good job.

They may have done a good job of convincing themselves and they may have even done a good job of convincing a large number of other motorcyclists but they certainly didn't do a good job of convincing the public.

**Scuba_Steve** · 19th January 2012, 13:37

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

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My bet is PD before page 5. Just saying

Well we made it to page 5, no PD... yet

**HenryDorsetCase** · 19th January 2012, 14:09

Originally Posted by Katman

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Unfortunately we never adequately discredited those "lies" to the general public. That is why we never got their widespread support.

Agreed. and I use lies in the term of "statistics manipulated to the point of meaninglessness to "prove" apoint then picked up on by a lazy stupid and gullible media then repeated ad nauseam": its just quicker to type "lies"

**trumpy** · 19th January 2012, 14:52

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but as soon as you beat them to a bloody pulp, or kill them, THEN they fucking show up. Oh yeah, they're all over that. Just one little stabby stab and they're all like "Oh no, son, you can't be doing that!" I mean really.

.............

**The Singing Chef** · 19th January 2012, 15:39

My bet is that they will install micro devices into bikes/cars that carry registration details etc.. and as soon as said rego runs out, then it starts pinging away so that when cops pass you or follow you it will send a notice to their computer so that they can pull you over.

Like that little chip they want to put into your hands.

It's all a freakin conspiracy man...

**avgas** · 19th January 2012, 15:49

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They may have done a good job of convincing themselves and they may have even done a good job of convincing a large number of other motorcyclists but they certainly didn't do a good job of convincing the public.

With only 35% of the public vote you could argue neither did National.

You know who did convince the public?
- LTSA drunk driving division (Bloody Legend)
- Nek Minit
- some penguin
- The Rena Crew
- God (address : Chch)

So not saying its impossible to get their attention, just saying once we have got it, will it do us any good?

**rastuscat** · 19th January 2012, 16:16

Originally Posted by sleemanj

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In the interest of pure curiosity rastus, what is this "SMART" device you speak of?

Does it do photo recognition of number plates, so your colleague just point it vaguely in the direction of the plate as the legal rider passes by, or do they punch the numbers in?

SMART is a clever acronym for the ticket writing machine we have been issued with. It has a scanner which can scan the barcode on a drivers licence, or on a vehicle reg label. Or you can do manual data entry.

Also we have recently been sent an ANPR car, Automatic Number Plate Recognition vehicle. Thing is, it is broken just now, that's the trouble with new toys.

Just FYI

**nzspokes** · 19th January 2012, 16:18

Originally Posted by rastuscat

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Thing is, it is broken just now, that's the trouble with new toys.

Just FYI

To many skids?

Got stuck at McDonalds?

**Scuba_Steve** · 19th January 2012, 16:22

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Also we have recently been sent an ANPR car, Automatic Number Plate Recognition vehicle. Thing is, it is broken just now, that's the trouble with new toys.

Just FYI

But don't worry guys it's not about making money, it's about safety. Somehow magically these devices will save lives

**rustic101** · 19th January 2012, 16:46

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Also we have recently been sent an ANPR car, Automatic Number Plate Recognition vehicle.

Has the Legislation been adjusted for these (ANPR) to be used? My understanding and I could be wrong is that these were for Intelligence purposes only not Road Policing?

At least SMART with reduce the error rate dramatically which will keep PIB happy.

**caspernz** · 19th January 2012, 19:06

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Has the Legislation been adjusted for these (ANPR) to be used? My understanding and I could be wrong is that these were for Intelligence purposes only not Road Policing?

At least SMART with reduce the error rate dramatically which will keep PIB happy.

Well, as a law abiding citizen I don't have any issue with the Police checking anything at any time. Why should I subsidise all the free-loaders that wanna buck the system?

**James Deuce** · 19th January 2012, 19:11

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Well, as a law abiding citizen I don't have any issue with the Police checking anything at any time. Why should I subsidise all the free-loaders that wanna buck the system?

Because the system isn't always right. Similarly the Police should only interface with you when there is provable suspicion that you have done something illegal and chargeable, or you require their services to charge someone else. Anything that deviates from the principal of rule of law is simple tyranny. Kiwis are really good at giving their rights away because someone in authority said it was a good idea.