Comments/advice wanted.

**The Singing Chef** · 4th February 2012, 08:13

Originally Posted by quickbuck

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A couple of pointers:
On the right handers you missed the apex on; Identify your turn point, and move it a little later. Then turn later, faster, and turn your head to look through the corner (before you actually make the turn). I think you got it on the corner before the back straight, but you tended to miss some.

Hope that helps a little....
Can't really give too much out without following you.

cheers mate, yea I haven't actually set any turn points so that's where I will be going wrong. much appreciated.

**sinfull** · 4th February 2012, 08:50

As QB said find your apex points, but also you need to identify braking points ie markers and work on one corner at a time for each track day (or less if you feel you have it nailed), get that one right then move on to the next !

**CHOPPA** · 4th February 2012, 10:54

It actually looked pretty good to me. You dont need a steering damper. Your lines were fine. Just keep riding around doing much the same and when a problem arises ask someone at the day that is super fast and dont trust what those ART instructors say.

California Superbike School is where its at. IMO all other training is a joke in comparison

**The Singing Chef** · 4th February 2012, 11:00

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

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It actually looked pretty good to me. You dont need a steering damper. Your lines were fine. Just keep riding around doing much the same and when a problem arises ask someone at the day that is super fast and dont trust what those ART instructors say.

California Superbike School is where its at. IMO all other training is a joke in comparison

Cheers Choppa. I will be in group 3 so should have some fast guys with me, currently lapping 1.18-1.20 but will have instructor on same bike who does 1.07s who will go out with me. wish I had the money for CSS.

**CHOPPA** · 4th February 2012, 13:00

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Cheers Choppa. I will be in group 3 so should have some fast guys with me, currently lapping 1.18-1.20 but will have instructor on same bike who does 1.07s who will go out with me. wish I had the money for CSS.

Yeah its expensive! Just keep doing laps open the throttle harder for longer, brake less and when you do brake, brake hard. Make sure your on good tyres.

**quickbuck** · 4th February 2012, 18:03

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

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It actually looked pretty good to me........

See below....

Originally Posted by The Singing Chef

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cheers mate, yea I haven't actually set any turn points so that's where I will be going wrong. much appreciated.

My suspicions were correct.
Yes, the skills taught at CSS are second to none.
I wouldn't actually go as far to say the rest are a joke though, it is just you get what you pay for.

**CHOPPA** · 4th February 2012, 18:50

Originally Posted by quickbuck

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See below....

My suspicions were correct.
Yes, the skills taught at CSS are second to none.
I wouldn't actually go as far to say the rest are a joke though, it is just you get what you pay for.

Yeah fair call, its great what they do because its basically free and helpful. Problem is I have seen the wrong advice being given which is counter-intuitive.

**The Singing Chef** · 4th February 2012, 19:13

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

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Yeah fair call, its great what they do because its basically free and helpful. Problem is I have seen the wrong advice being given which is counter-intuitive.

How so? I am lucky to have only a few of the guys riding that I trust and are damn good that have actually followed me and led me through so that is always good, just a matter of setting up turn in points etc... and working on a select few things.

**quickbuck** · 4th February 2012, 20:34

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How so? I am lucky to have only a few of the guys riding that I trust and are damn good that have actually followed me and led me through so that is always good, just a matter of setting up turn in points etc... and working on a select few things.

I think what Choppa is illuding to is that some of the advice "mates" give can actually be technically incorrect.
If you improve, the well in good, but you may not.

It sounds like you have a good plan in place though.

I know for a fact Choppa himself, even though a great rider, got a lot out of professional instruction (even though he didn't believe he wouldn't at first), and some of his beliefs were blown out of the water.