Help with first bike?

**mossy1200** · 12th February 2012, 19:51

Originally Posted by Asher

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also i just need to get my head around something, will i need to a letter of no interest from the cops if it has been registered in nz before and the rego has simply lapsed?

yes any vehicle rego lapsed needs it incase it was stolen etc.The rego lapse will mean it get new plate number.

be aware the 2600km from japan could mean anything.Documents get changed clocks get wound back etc.It just seems to good to be true .You really need someone to help you judge estimated kms etc.At so said 5k now the bike would still be on original tyres unless replaced due to rubber cracking from age.
The cbr is good deal also and its likely to have a honest background.

The gsxr looks original paint and cosmetic low kms travelled but its a guess job to true history thats why idd encourage compression test,inspection of swingarm linkages and even rust in radiator system.You need help to protect you from a bad investment on it.

**Asher** · 12th February 2012, 20:00

cool thanks for your help
i plan on looking at it this week and i will take a friend with me to help check it over.

**neels** · 12th February 2012, 20:18

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also i just need to get my head around something, will i need to a letter of no interest from the cops if it has been registered in nz before and the rego has simply lapsed?

If there are papers to go with it, and you get a receipt from the legal owner, you shouldn't need this. If it's just got a plate on the back, and no other paperwork you probably will.

How soon are you after a bike? May have a cheap GSXR250 for sale soon, not in mint condition but a good runner, and legal and ready to ride away. Once my son has his restricted he's going to flick it, even comes with most of a spare bike....

**tigertim20** · 12th February 2012, 20:29

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thanks for the input.
The main reason i was looking at the gsxr was its low km's which i figure it shouldnt require any major work for at least 15k+km's and im not bothered about paying for new reg and wof as basically any bike im looking at would require that within a couple of months.

Such low KMs on such an old bike can come with other issues too. good bet it sat in a shed by the wharf in Japan for 10-15 years around the salt water. I have seen notched steering hear bearings on bikes that have sat on one spot for several years and not moved.
You seem really interested in this thing for some reason, and if its what you insist on going for it, I suggest doing a really thorough check on it before buying it - bikes that need to be re regod often require a fuck load of work that you dont notice until you try to get it on the road

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also i just need to get my head around something, will i need to a letter of no interest from the cops if it has been registered in nz before and the rego has simply lapsed?

if you want to re rego a bike that has lapsed registration, yes, you need to prove that the police are not interested in the vehicle.
when you revin you basically need three things
proof you own it - a receipt of sale
proof the cops arent interested in it - been explained, take the last known rego to them and they will give you a from to take to the people who do the Vinning
proof that the vehicle has been registered before in New Zealand. if it still has an old plate or rego sticker with it, that will do.

**mossy1200** · 12th February 2012, 20:58

I have put 6 bikes back on the road.None have been low km imports and most have been used then droped and suffered minor damage the owner couldnt be bothered fixing so they sat and rego lapsed.Eg one damaged tank,broken clip on,broken footpeg and headlight(honda price parts $1200 my price convert headlight both pegs,paint tank set of second hand trump clipons $200.What i did know was the reason for rego lapse and also had a good idea of costs to return to road.If your mate isnt good with bikes its pointless taking him.You need abike mechanic or super handy bike rider to check it.If not buy THE DEVIL YOU KNOW NOT THE DEVIL YOU DONT.
The cbr with gear is a great bike if you dont have ability to access gsxr.

New rego and plates Based on the bikes i have done if rego lapsed

pre 91 no brake declaration required.91 onwards brake declaration required by competant person(does not need be bike shop).I did my own .I measured the discs,recorded my results ,listed the min disc width with reference to where information came from.I did this after using bike shop first 2 times until shop owner said do it yourself next time.

Declaration of no interest is required.Police have the forms.Phone vtnz and ask they will confirm.Police will require rego or chasis number.They will complete forms and sign it for you free and you take it with you.It takes 5mins they just check its not on a list for stolen vehicles.

The old ownership papers mean nothing 12 months after rego is lapsed.New plates,New ownership papers and you become the only owner of vehicle on paper with that plate number.

If its never had vin plate it gets harder but this gsxr has one.

**Asher** · 12th February 2012, 21:05

cool i think i understand all i need as to get it re-rego'ed
the only thing that really interests me about the gsx is its low km's, as i assumed would make it more hassle free although i get that it sitting around isnt good for it either.
When i look at it i will just have to try and be as thorough and objective as i can and if it doesnt look right i can check out that cbr

**Ender EnZed** · 12th February 2012, 21:15

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the only thing that really interests me about the gsx is its low km's

After 23 years they mean fuck all.

That GSXR looks a lot more like a money pit than the other two bikes you linked.

**tigertim20** · 12th February 2012, 21:20

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After 23 years they mean fuck all.

That GSXR looks a lot more like a money pit than the other two bikes you linked.

+1.
The GSXR would be a good racebike candidate IMO, but Id definitely place the cbr over the others based on current information

**ducatilover** · 12th February 2012, 21:22

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cool i think i understand all i need as to get it re-rego'ed
the only thing that really interests me about the gsx is its low km's, as i assumed would make it more hassle free although i get that it sitting around isnt good for it either.

Chances are, if it has a genuine 5000km, it won't last much longer.
It will have had cold riding, no real long rides to get the shit out of the engine and everything to wear correctly.
Cold running an engine reduces the life hugely.
Expect rusted bores if it has sat for long periods (like it has)
As TTim mentioned, headstem bearings, wheel bearings, all the fluids will be shit, the brake pads, the tyres, the fork seals and bushings, as with the rear shock, most of it will be brittle form no use.
No good for the engine bearings either the cold running and/or lack of frequent use.

I'd avoid it myself, just from my experience of "mint" low km Jap imported 250s

The CBR are known to be the most reliable 4cyl 250 (and one of the most reliable in general) and have a solid parts base here in NZ.

**Asher** · 12th February 2012, 21:32

Hmmm, well im definitely glad i joined these forums.
I will still go check it out and try and be thorough but i will get in contact with the guy who owns the CBR too so if the gsx looks like too much trouble i will go for that or at least check it out

**Asher** · 13th February 2012, 21:13

How much would you guys think it would cost to get this back on the road?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=445900311

Or would it be easier to go for this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-439674145.htm

I am going to check out that gsxr tomorrow and the guy selling the cbr isnt answering my emails

, i will update you guys on that the gsxr is like

**mossy1200** · 13th February 2012, 21:20

bike A ,good tyre $230 good battery $140.plus rego .Ask for bike at 2500 and dont take blue glow worms

Try get bike B ,for 2800 to 3k tell him hes a little above the average private sale price and very close to a dealership price which would include some comeback on faults.

**Asher** · 13th February 2012, 21:28

^^^ Thanks!

**tigertim20** · 13th February 2012, 22:44

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bike A ,good tyre $230 good battery $140.plus rego .Ask for bike at 2500 and dont take blue glow worms

Try get bike B ,for 2800 to 3k tell him hes a little above the average private sale price and very close to a dealership price which would include some comeback on faults.

+1, bike B is asking too much. - also, what evidence do you have of the actual KMs, and condition of the new engine it has had put in it?