How does one learn the art of leaning?

[WillskE]

not sure if this is the right place to post this, have been riding for bout 5months... and keen to learn some new corning skills but i just have no idea who this "counter balance" and "change of center gravity" thing work

so could any experienced riders explain to me how its done?

saw this online the other day, seems interesting...http://www.superbikeschool.com/machinery/lean-bike.php

do we have anything like that here?



ps. any tips for the restricted test?

[SMOKEU]

Find someone a lot more experienced than you and get them to show you a few tricks.

Remember to look around the corner instead of straight ahead. Also drop your head and shoulder down when you're cornering.

[nzspokes]

Come see us at SASS, we will learn you up....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...highlight=sass

And you can look at coming on this,

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...riday-4-May%29

Will be learning and fun.

[hayd3n]

look out for the
twist of the wrist book
or dvd
plenty to learn there
but take small steps
you will never be rossi
hell lorenzo only just got his scooter licence

[pritch]

Last time I looked the California Superbike School was here. Well, at Hampton Downs anyway.
Whether or not they have a "leaner" I couldn't say. Interestingly the CSS uses that contraption for level 2?

[flyingcrocodile46]

This is a pretty good explanation of cornering issues.

http://www.lazymotorbike.eu/tips/corners/

Have a good read then carefully consider and select someone who might be suitable to have a talk to about what you learned and ask if they can help by demonstrating and helping you through some of the basics.

[EnzoYug]

Yup. Getting someone experienced will really help.

If you're keen to get some tips and go for a ride I'm in the central auckland area and will ride with you any night the weather is fine. We can ride, I'll observe ya, you can observe me and we can break it down over coffee. (Sounds like a date, shit my girlfriend might get jealous). I'll even bring the GoPro so you can see what you look like from the rear *cough* so to speak.

I've owned two Hyos and crashed both - I'm fairly familiar with their corner abilities. So unless you're keen to ride my word of advice, (which I'm sure someone will piss all over) will be to lean GRADUALLY - and watch your clearance, especially on the 07 / 08 kick stands.

Goodluck and remember - the fear will keep you alive. Probably.


Aidan
ps. PM'ing me wont do shit, just txt me 021607524

[Brian d marge]

Start with a lamppost

you never know a certain little lady may come by...

Stephen

[Deano]

Take it to a track is one avenue, and follow/listen to someone who knows.

[jrandom]

http://www.motott.co.nz/

[Voltaire]

I joined the AMCC did some ART days, bought a bucket racer, John Conner who runs buckets always has a loaner bike to try,did level 1 and 2 of California Superbike School.
I've been riding for 30 years and would recommend the above.
Since doing that I raced in two classic meets.
Be cautious about going in group rides.
thats my 2 cents worth.

[trustme]

www.prorider.co.nz run by Karel Pavich . Runs schools at most race tracks. Taupo would suit you better than Puke.

Superbike school is in limbo & probably a bit advanced for you

Karel caters to all levels of ability, You get to do heaps of laps over the day. She will give you the learn on counter steering, target fixation , emergency braking & evasive action, all the stuff that will save your arse.

These are not a track day as such but a training day without the worry of cars on the road or other riders coming past at frightening speeds which can happen at open track days.

[tbs]

+1 for Karel Pavich and Pro-Rider.

I did a course with her at Puke after struggling to lean and therefore turn the bike for the first 1000km riding. It helped like you wouldn't believe. We went through all the various ways of making the bike steer and getting a bit of lean on and by the middle of the day I was feeling genuinely comfortable on the bike for the first time. By the end of the day I was giving my little 250 the beans and feeling really comfortable. I was even trying to get my knee down. In reality this was stupid and I would have been much better just focusing on riding properly, but what the hell... I was super noob, and a bit too influenced by all the internet heros on youtube. The next track day I did was at Hampton Downs and I got my knee down for the first time... this time without trying. Once you get the confidence to really lean and the chance to practice the techniques in a safe controlled environment, you'll make huge improvements.

There are a LOT of bad habits you can develop on a bike if left to your own devices, and they could easily kill you. Learn to do it correctly as early as you can.

Oh, and +1 for SASS too. Good instruction from good group riders.

b.

[baffa]

Leaning in itself isnt difficult.

I dont know about others, but I feel my handling skills are reasonable, the thing that always holds me back is the voice in the back of my head going will the tyres handle that? What if there is an unsighted bump or debris mid turn?
I find when you get into a flow of attacking corners properly, it's almost like meditation, you almost dont have to think about it.

[khabel]

1. Watch all 7 Twist of the Wrist 2 videos on youtube
2. ????
3. Profit