LAMS approved bikes

[Zamiam]

Come 1 july those wonderful chaps & chapesses at ACC will announce that LAMS approved bikes, which in ltsa's own words are safer to ride, will pay the current 250cc-600cc levy or less Furthermore the repentant criminals that they are...not, will revamp the cc rating structure of acc levys to fairly reflect the new power to weight ratio rules.
Imagine that possums a 650cc single owner on the list will pay $300 +/- less every year. That is one front tyre or 60 $5 beers. Imagine too the outrage among 100,000 bikers who vote if this does not happen.
I feel another bikeoi coming on.

Obviously a learner rider on a LAMs approved 650cc bike is safer than an experienced rider on a 750cc bike. Silly me I thought the learner would be a greater risk. Might be time to buy a Honda

[FJRider]

Maybe they will make it more expensive to register scooters, moped and 250cc bikes to properly reflect there higher risk

Does "revamp" mean increase or decrease ... ???

[Ender EnZed]

Come 1 july those wonderful chaps & chapesses at ACC will announce that LAMS approved bikes, which in ltsa's own words are safer to ride, will pay the current 250cc-600cc levy or less Furthermore the repentant criminals that they are...not, will revamp the cc rating structure of acc levys to fairly reflect the new power to weight ratio rules.
Imagine that possums a 650cc single owner on the list will pay $300 +/- less every year.

That would be excellent.

The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid.

[Ragingrob]

That would be excellent.

The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid.

Why?

10char

[GrayWolf]

IF and I mean IF they decide to go along with the power to weight ratio for the 'LAM's bikes as a basis. Then maybe those of us who dont have the urge for 180+BHP bikes that weigh under 200kg's may actually get a lower Rego cost. That will reflect the lower 'risk' we are to ourselves....... YEAH RIGHT!!!!

[awa355]

That would be excellent.

The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid.

I agree, If I had a GSXR600, I'd be winging it a lot quicker than my XVS650 cruiser. Hence, my safety margin goes down, my risk factor goes up. And that's with 44 years sensible riding ( mostly) to make my judgement calls from.

There's no way I would stick to 'Nana' riding on a 100+hp sportsbike, so I reckon my chances of an accident would increase.

[tigertim20]

Why?

10char

if you need to ask that, you are clearly retarded

[Ragingrob]

if you need to ask that, you are clearly retarded

So rider 1 is on a gsxr600 commuting to and from work in the city at 50kph, rider 2 is on a dr650 going for blasts on the weekend, taking part in exhilarating off-road trail rides and even hits a few small jumps.

Is it retarded to think both riders could get injured in their own way and be claiming equal amounts from ACC?

[quickbuck]

So rider 1 is on a gsxr600 commuting to and from work in the city at 50kph, rider 2 is on a dr650 going for blasts on the weekend, taking part in exhilarating off-road trail rides and even hits a few small jumps.

Is it retarded to think both riders could get injured in their own way and be claiming equal amounts from ACC?

Where have you been????
It is cheaper to register a bike less than 600cc than it is a 650.
Don't bring locic into this. When the fee structure was set up a couple of years ago, logic wasn't used.
Further more, LAMS approved bikes were already being talked about.... It was a classic case of left hand not talking to right foot.

I am glad to see that there is going to be a revamp in the structure....
Hell, with a $3.5 billion excess, surely ACC can afford it now??

[quickbuck]

LOL RVF 400. Wonder if we can convince them to let the NC30 on there

NO!
The RVF (NC35) Makes it on there as it is slightly heavier and produced less power than the NC30.
The 150kw/tonne formula was used to determine what was legal and what was not, followed by an application by the importers.

[quickbuck]

Including KTM's 525 EXC, and a couple similar.

Wonder what contortions the formula underwent to slide those in there...

They used BigDave as the test rider?

Or KTM used the incorrect figures when making the application.....

[Ragingrob]

Where have you been????
It is cheaper to register a bike less than 600cc than it is a 650.
Don't bring locic into this. When the fee structure was set up a couple of years ago, logic wasn't used.
Further more, LAMS approved bikes were already being talked about.... It was a classic case of left hand not talking to right foot.

I am glad to see that there is going to be a revamp in the structure....
Hell, with a $3.5 billion excess, surely ACC can afford it now??

I was replying to the comment regarding LAMS "The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid."

[quickbuck]

I was replying to the comment regarding LAMS "The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid."

Now you have confused me.
LAMS doesn't take effect until October 1st....
The current situation is as it has been for the past few years.

Sorry,, it might be the pills.....

[GrayWolf]

I was replying to the comment regarding LAMS "The current situation where my DR650 costs more to register than a GSXR600 is just stupid."

Unfortunately, the bike insurance industry is similar, when I insured my bike (1670cc) I ended up using Kiwibike insurance, completely different attitude to my preceding insurer. When you talk to the sales rep's or brokers, most have no idea about motorcycle's in general. I was told "oh 1700cc thats powerful"..."no it isnt, its a V twin and low revving. It has half the BHP of a 1000cc+ sprot bike, and is about 100kph slower on top speed"..... "yes but its 1700cc so it has to be powerful"... if you look at europe, cars are put into groups, engine size, ancillary equipment like turbo's etc.... type of car, sports, coupe', family saloon all contribute to the insurance group the car ends up in, with the stepped licence system they have bikes have also been loosely 'grouped now'.. Here, they simply have'nt and probably wont do the same for bikes, they can make more 'revenue' by simply using a cc and value formula to quote you.

[sil3nt]

NO!
The RVF (NC35) Makes it on there as it is slightly heavier and produced less power than the NC30.
The 150kw/tonne formula was used to determine what was legal and what was not, followed by an application by the importers.

It is 1kg heavier and quoted power was only 53HP instead of 59HP which isn't quite true