Michael (it is you right? :P),
I use CNELL gear - I have a Nerve Jacket and Pants ($140 each) - havent got wet through them yet. No wet patch in the crotch (well, assuming I dont pee myself). On really cold days I wear a leather jacket under the cordura one.. but I have never used, nor needed the liner on the pants - jeans and/or a pear of thermals is all you need.
Admittedly they havent had to survive more than a couple of hours in the rain, but they havent let me down yet.
Geoff
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