What qualifies as "unnecessary exhibition of speed or acceleration on a road"?

[FJRider]

I've been internalizing a really complicated situation in my head - will a cop book me for excessive acceleration if I use <50% throttle and reach 100kph before any other vehicle has even crossed the intersection leaving traffic lights on an open road. SH2 Hutt valley.

A simple formula to figure it out. Can he ... or WILL he ???

Chances are he won't ... unless he can add "A sustained loss of traction" onto the ticket. Or there is a lot of traffic or pedestrians about. OR ... he feels like it ...

Enter "Murphys Law" into the equasion ... and the one time you dont want to chat to the plod ...

[p.dath]

I have enjoyed that discretion. A rider we were with was pulled over and was getting a ticket for a speeding offence we knew he didn't do as he was with us.

We pulled over to watch.

The cop said piss off.

We said nah free country.

He said nah, not free country, I'll impound all your bikes for racing if you aren't gone in ten seconds. We went.

Would have been a great time to flip out a camera phone, and say "Lucky this is a public place".

[p.dath]

...That got me thinking, what qualifies as a unnecessary exhibition of acceleration as long as I dont break the speed limit or wheel spin?

I think an important word in this is "exhibition".

I would think that unless there was an audience, that you might find proving their was an exhibition was difficult.

[scumdog]

The law came into force in 2003 yet there don't seem to be any significant cases on it which suggests the police use their discretion appropriately most of the time.

Stop trying to add truth and logic to a KB thread...

[Coldrider]

I think an important word in this is "exhibition".

I would think that unless there was an audience, that you might find proving their was an exhibition was difficult.

If a donut muncher has seen it, it has been exhibited.

[FJRider]

If a donut muncher has seen it, it has been exhibited.

Even if he only believed he saw it ...

[RDJ]

... and those charged with those offences ... know it was justified. Unhappy about it and whinge like hell to any that might listen ... but "a fair cop" none the less ...

Those that get charged with that offence, have the opportunity to fight it in court.

ALSO known as - those that get charged with the offence can take the opportunity to pay for justice... and likely lose. Because the default mode for riders as far as the 'authorites' are concerned, is guilty.

[cheshirecat]

Im safe my bikes only got 88 hp. Its only capable of "laughable exhibition of moderate speed or slight acceleration on a road"

You can't talk of slight acceleration unless you've owned a landrover

[DrunkenMistake]

...or sustained loss of traction. The cop doesn't need any proof, so it's just their word against yours.

I have actually had a case where I was pulled over and told by the cop that he heard my tyre squeal and he was wanking on about issuing me a ticket for it,
I cant say I have ever heard of multi compound tyres squeezing, I know I have dumped the clutch from a stand still at high revs and thats just poped the front up, but what do I know, I ride a Hyo.

........ how can I prove it's not too loud? .....

Just do a skid you soft cock.

So i should paint my helmet pink and wear a womans wig?

There is a fat fella riding about with a Fluorescent pink oldschool 70's looking helmet, he wears that, a tshirt and track pants,
Oh and he rides an R1.

http://img1.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.274331469.jpg

[MIZXR]

Huh? I've missed something. Can I just randomly stop cars and dish tickets out for noise? I actually thought I had to wait until a noisy vehicle comes along. Subjectively noisy yes, but noisier than when it came out of the factory.

Damn, no wonder I've never had a performance cash bonus for meeting my quota.

But then, I've only been doing it for 24 years, what do I know?

Harumph.

If the vehicle goes and gets tested and passes - mine - then yes it is random, unless you want to refund the cost? I'll accept it was a mistake then not just a way to cost me money. Subjective ha means I wanted to in the cop dictionary.

I do have a question though, How come I watched your old police pr lady pass me on yellow lines while speeding, then try to push me off the road when she realized her car wasn't quick enough? I was letting her passed untill I saw who it was. Then I realized that speeding is safe and she was lying on tv.

[scumdog]

I do have a question though, How come I watched your old police pr lady pass me on yellow lines while speeding, then try to push me off the road when she realized her car wasn't quick enough? I was letting her passed untill I saw who it was. Then I realized that speeding is safe and she was lying on tv.

Why don't you ask HER??

Ya ain't gunna get an answer on KB (Well not a sensible one!)

[MIZXR]

I tried but she wouldn't stop. . I dont normally have that much of an issue when I see you guys over the speed limit but that was too much. Most of you guys seem to do a good job but it must be hard to keep a straight face when giving out a speeding ticket if your one of them.

Excessive accleration and wheelspin laws have been around for a while before the boy racer bill but if your tyres squeal, the body or front wheel lift or you break traction or you are two car lenghts in front over a very short area, you are already aware your doing something wrong so if you get caught pay your bill and get over it. A few years later you'll laugh about it and realize you were silly.

Years before I got ticketed for excessive acceleration while stationary a good hour after I did it - move your bike/ car from the end of the black mark, his words - best explaination for how to spin your rear wheel I've ever heard but he wouldn't demostrate. Half an hour later he was back telling us a mate had driven over the edge and one was on his way to hospital.

They have a hard job to do so why make it worse if you know its wrong, just shut up and pay up. In saying that the older I get the lectures I got given had more effect than the tickets.

[superman]

I hear if you accelerate to 88mph quick enough it's impossible to be ticketed due to the unavoidable activation of the flux capacitor.

[brp]

Pulling more than 2G usually constitutes a ticket

[onearmedbandit]

Seems your a bit ignorant on the issue (probably listening to the propaganda machine too much), so I have edited for you

I work in the car industry, currently for a yard that used to specialise in performance cars. We still get lots of clients coming in for those types of cars. Now in my time I've seen two types of client interested in this type of vehicle. Firstly there is your 'motoring enthusiast'. This type appreciate performance vehicles, enjoy modifying them and driving them. They do so in a reasonable manner. They arrive in their Type-R/Evo/WRX STi/GTR at a moderate speed, speak with intelligence and wear their clothing as it was designed. When they leave in their nicely presented cars they drive off at a normal speed. The second type arrive in their Integra 1.6/non-turbo Lancer/old rough WRX/Skyline GTS-t/Maxima/Cefiro/Vigor/(pretty much whatever they could afford at the time) at 100mph. They walk around the yard like they own the place, shoulders swaying and speak a strange type of language involving grunts and chuckles at their equally unintelligent mates comments. They also have little understanding of how clothing was intended to be worn. Once they've established that none of the cars we have are as quick as theirs, they leave 'chirping' the front or rear wheels or abusing the clutch/gearbox of their lowered, panel damaged big bore exhaust equipped WRX that hasn't seen a service in 30,000km and hasn't had a cambelt change in 150,000km.

No propaganda machine at work there, well with the exception of their own.