Sure, It's off topic but which Jap car brand is the crappest?

[koba]

Talking about average mans aged imports rather than flash new cars...

[Akzle]

mitsis fkn win. I've had half a doz. Starting with 84 sigma, 4g..something. Rwd.
incl couple magpies (6g73,t) and me L2 ute, 89, which will still tow most things. Backwards. (4g54)

[Subike]

i operated a business for 10 years removed fucked cars from people properties.
in that time I removed and recycled as scrap over 17,000 vehicles.
Sure, there were worse cars than the Mitsubishi over time,
but the youngest, lowest mileage cars were Mitsubishi if I were to point the finger at a brand as a whole.
One of the most dangerous cars to crash in? Ford Escort! Reasons need a page to explain.
The worst interiors? Izuzu Piazza, Vibrated to bits as you drove them. the plastics became brittle in the NZ sun.
Worst for rust? 70's - 80's Toyota, but that was an assembly problem peculiar to NZ cars assembled here in that time. well documented.
Worst suspensions? Ford cortina, MK3-4-5, ripped the bushings right out of the chassis. Front sub assembly use to "walk" as you drove.
But the Mitsubishi's? Just plane wore out fast as, gearbox's, cylinder heads, C V joints, seats, window winding mecs, door hinges.....and more. Dont let me start on the electrics....
Early Subaru, were bad for cylinder head faults after being serviced, but that was an assembly fault in most from service people who did not understand the small trick that made them live.
Now this information was gathered on cars aged between 1960 and 2004, when I stopped operation.
So I have no comment upon vehicles made after that time.
All time favorite oil droppers, ....anything BMC.....

[Geeen]

There is a reason they're called MyBitAShitty

[ducatilover]

Every brand has its lemons.
Unfortunately Mitsi seems to have more than most
I've had two Mitsis, had a great run from each. I've had to work on more than I can remember though, can't stand them.

[steve_t]

Had 3 different mates have fires start in their stock standard Mitsi Lancer cars due to electrical faults. One started in the window switchgear on the door interior!

[rustic101]

Well not sure about the Mitiz cars but my Mitiz L200 double cab sport pack ute is a real diamond.
In the 12 years I've owned her I've only had to change the tyres, rear bushes in the springs and topped up the oil
I treat her like a dog and she is as rough as guts and (touch wood) never misses a beat. Its a 2wd but goes places 4wd's don't.

[sinned]

Over the years I have had a few cars including 3 Mitsubushi. All were crap. I had a new V3000 and about a year into its life it lost bottom end torque - so much it would bog in the lower auto gears on hills. If it was canned thru the gears it went okay. So back to Mits garage with this complaint. Nothing wrong I was told and they refused to put it on a dyno to check it out. Then another year later I got a recall notice for valve seat regression - it went well after that. Then as I was a slow learner got a Mitsu Diamanta - too high geared, terrible handling ( under steer). At the same time I had a Mits Mirage - another heap of shit.

Most reliable cars I have owned - Toyota - just a bit boring, but that is why I have a motorcycle.

[Yow Ling]

I had a mitsi L200 triton, the roof caved in the first time I rolled it

[gav]

I had a mitsi L200 triton, the roof caved in the first time I rolled it

Was it any better on the 2nd and 3rd attempt?

[Timber020]

Mitz by a country mile. people buy them new because they look at the specs and think they will save the $ on not buying a better brand. The choice of accountants and budget fleet buyers and people who dont know better.
Its like they know how to build a good machine but cut all the corners they can at the execution

[AllanB]

The electronics in all the new ones are a possible long term worry, I have heard of some BMW's having problems.


I have a 02 NZ new Galant - had a clean 100,000 plus run out of it so far. Mind you it is a pretty simple twin cam 2l and manual gearbox without too many stupid electrics. Frankly I'd be careful of the bells and all electronics on the imports.

[Edbear]

Most Jap imports are dodgy and unreliable. Most common to be seen dead on the side of the road are Mitsubishi's, always an import.

However all second hand imports are prone to failures, ask your local Toyota service centre about Lexus imports from Hong Kong or most garages about Toyota turbo diesels esp the Surf. My Bro- in- Law was buying Mitsi 2500 turbo diesel engines and transplanting them into Surfs as they were more reliable!

Any NZ new vehicle is almost certain to be a better buy than a 2nd hand Jap import. Another mate bought a Mitsi 380 new and has had a great run out of it, it's a very nice car and much better than a Commodore.

You can't beat regular servicing from new and buy from someone you can trust. Sure it may be harder to find but you wear the consequences of buying a dud.

[joan of arc]

Anyone have comments about the Mercedes, Volvo, other "high class" european imports that seem to be easy to pick up at very reasonable prices?

[Edbear]

Just as bad but more expensive when they break. Steer clear the Euro's are worse than the Japs. Anything and everything electric can and will die an expensive death, just ask Classic_Z he is a Euro specialist.