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Thread: FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Rule book racer.
    Dude this shit is gold, I've not enjoyed sidecar racing this much for years. Gotta love hacking shit up.
    You're so old school, build it local with local content.
    It's what's been missing for years - NZ wide.

    Where has the whole no.8 wire mentality gone?

    Nowadays it's just buy parts off the shelf.....

    ...and before any longbike guys get their panties wadded up, I'm talking NZ racing in general.
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    The axle bone's connected to the....oh dear.
    Oh shit, you've just added another 20mm to the swingarm.....
    Anyone got a 28 foot chain you can lend 'em???

    There's heaps of lightness to be found in your frame bro.....
    Just drill holes in all that box section.....
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    The axle bone's connected to the....oh dear.
    eef eef ees!

    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    ....

    Where has the whole no.8 wire mentality gone?

    ......
    check ricks sidecar.

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    um, is the swingarm pivot ahead of the sidewheel by about a foot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    um, is the swingarm pivot ahead of the sidewheel by about a foot?
    Yes, but I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Yes, but I don't care.
    I didn't think you would, I just hope you have a rear tyre sponsor for the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    I didn't think you would, I just hope you have a rear tyre sponsor for the season.
    With our weight distribution, this will make zero difference to tyre wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    With our weight distribution, this will make zero difference to tyre wear.
    Somebody smarter than me commented on ricks chair when I was rebuilding it, saying that having the side wheel backward of the swingarm pivot would just make the rear light up everywhere. He was right, and that was only about 30mm out.

    I didn't believe him until I googled imaged my brains out.

    I'd be leaving it in line with the side wheel and just making it higher to get the right chain geometry if I was you.

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    Just rigid up the rear, then the swing arm pivot means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Nothing about not hacking shit up in there.
    Probably not

    The original intention was any major change to the chair would be recorded and checked so there was a recorded history of any modification

    The log books are just an exercise in box ticking they don't really serve any real purpose
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Somebody smarter than me commented on ricks chair when I was rebuilding it, saying that having the side wheel backward of the swingarm pivot would just make the rear light up everywhere. He was right, and that was only about 30mm out.

    I didn't believe him until I googled imaged my brains out.

    I'd be leaving it in line with the side wheel and just making it higher to get the right chain geometry if I was you.
    That can be controlled through damping and spring rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    That can be controlled through damping and spring rate.
    Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.
    Like these noddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Its got more to do with the fulcrum affect of the third wheel while cornering.
    There goes another ten four inch grinding wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    There goes another ten four inch grinding wheels.
    Nah. I understand why what he's talking about happens I think, but I reckon it is the lesser of the two evils on our outfit.

    If your swingarm pivot is a long way from the front sprocket, drive torque effect on suspension is amplified. I want that control back, in the form of shock alterations. Yeah the tyre now leans the wrong way relative to the direction slightly more. But since torque is affecting it to a lesser degree because we have the ride height more stable, it will be clser to right than the alternative.

    This is all specific to our spastic chair, and will not be true on anything built to any sort of plan at all.

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