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    NSR250 rebuild - 'The ELF Special'

    Thought I should share one of my current projects. I'm doing a build thread on another forum, but hopefully I can get some local expertise, and maybe a few parts sources here.

    What I've got is a 1987 Honda NSR250R (MC16) with a 1989 MC18 engine. I picked it up just 100 bucks in a pretty sorry state. The plan is to do a full rebuild with some modifications.

    I'll summarise the build so far:

    This is basically what I'm aiming for:
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    And this is what I started with:

    After pulling the engine:
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    The engine was seized so I decided to investigate by pulling it apart. The pistons weren't seized but the crank was. Water had gone inside and rusted up the right hand bearing.
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    Bottom cylinder was good
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    Top cylinder wasn't. Looks like it was running lean, as there's detonation marks on top of cylinder and head.
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    Heads are ok, but I've picked up another one in great condition to replace the top head that was slightly pitted.
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    Calipers were seized up
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    Down to the frame
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    Split the cases to investigate. Looks like water had entered the crankcase through a lubrication hole near the bearing.
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    After a good cleaning with de-greaser and a dremel:
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    De-rusted tank and expansion chambers. I used steel BB's in the tank. Swished them around to remove any flakey rust, then a phosphoric acid soak for the rest. Yeah there's a few spots remaining. The chambers were done with a wire cup brush.

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    Chambers painted:
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    Calipers re-painted and rebuilt:
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    Swingarm polished up to a satin finish. The frame is next and both will be clear coated.
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    Forks rebuilt with new seals. Form bottoms painted and finished with a nice Showa decal.
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    Polished up the triple clamp. Took ages as it was originally sand cast, and the casting marks had to be sanded down first.
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    Loosely assembled the front end to see what it will look like.
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    So right now I'm just getting it up to a rolling frame before I tackle the engine. Just need to do a bit more polishing and painting then I can get it assembled.

    There's a fair bit more I haven't posted including lots of pics. It you want to see more of the build so far, check it out here: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39780.0

    On another note, are there any NSR owners who have any spare parts available? I'm mainly after a crankshaft, in usable or rebuildable condition (my old one's not rebuildable). I'm also in need of a good barrel, re-plating them is hideously expensive ($575 quote from NZ cylinders, I think the only place that does it in NZ).

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    Hi there ,

    if your crank pins are ok then you can get rods to rebuild the crank , there are some guys that can supply the main bearings but the centre crank seal is NLA if i am correct .

    If you are not fussy , any nsr barrel with head can fit onto your casings .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil_K View Post
    I'm also in need of a good barrel, re-plating them is hideously expensive ($575 quote from NZ cylinders, I think the only place that does it in NZ).
    Imdying had a place offshore that was considerably cheaper, think it's posted in one of the RS250 rebuild threads
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    Cool man. Bits hard to find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Hi there ,

    if your crank pins are ok then you can get rods to rebuild the crank , there are some guys that can supply the main bearings but the centre crank seal is NLA if i am correct .

    If you are not fussy , any nsr barrel with head can fit onto your casings .
    The old crank is pretty stuffed, there's pitting on the small end of the rods. Don't know the condition of the crank pins, but the rods were never made as a replacement part anyway so you can't get new ones (a guy in NZ has had custom ones made though). Bearings are somewhat hard to get, but this being a later model MC18, it uses the same bearings and seals as the MC21 and 28. Actually, an MC21 or 28 crank can be made to fit if you machine a few mm off the outside of the webs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sable View Post
    Cool man. Bits hard to find?
    Yes very hard to find! Especially engine parts. It's a shame no one makes much aftermarket parts for these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil_K View Post
    Yes very hard to find! Especially engine parts. It's a shame no one makes much aftermarket parts for these.
    Not true

    I have a warehouse in Japan full of parts for MC 11 16 18 21 28
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    You make a plan - if your pins are 24mm mc16 and early mc18 then you use rs125 rods .
    If they are 25mm , you use the rods from Samarin ( Tucker ) or the crm125 with a yz small end bearing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gammaguy View Post
    Not true

    I have a warehouse in Japan full of parts for MC 11 16 18 21 28
    Huh! Tell me more. Are there NOS parts? aftermarket? Do you sell parts?

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