Why work? A couple from the UK asks

**mashman** · 1st February 2013, 09:17

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Reliability? Well - you have to sacrfice something to get a hand-built Eyetalian motorcycle ...

... terms accepted.

**nudemetalz** · 1st February 2013, 09:27

Originally Posted by 007XX

Haha... Eeerrr thanks but no thanks. I like reliability and pleasing aesthetics in my machine, two qualities Guzzis are sorely lacking of IMHO.

errr...excuse me,..cheeky girly???
Mine is one of the finest in styling,...and err...sometimes umm,...reliability....

**Zedder** · 1st February 2013, 10:03

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Surce for those figures? Not disagreing - just askign for the source ...

Maybe ... the trading rights were protected by the Declaration of Independence ... and the concept of trhe treaty was to control unruly white people ... not to give control of our country to Britain ... Hobson had been ordered NOT to sign a treaty - he disobeyed his orders by preparing and signing the treaty ...

Nah, I plucked the figures out of the air just to wind you up... But seriously, the sources were the Office of Treaty Settlements and the others that keep tabs on it all.

As far as trading rights and the Declaration of Independence go, what about the French that were hanging around? Check ya history duoBandit.

**Banditbandit** · 1st February 2013, 10:30

Originally Posted by Zedder

Nah, I plucked the figures out of the air just to wind you up... But seriously, the sources were the Office of Treaty Settlements and the others that keep tabs on it all.

Cool. Thanks for that. I must admit I haven't looked at the figures since I taught Treaty classes - and that's a few years now ..

As far as trading rights and the Declaration of Independence go, what about the French that were hanging around? Check ya history duoBandit.

Lots of discussion about what the French were doing - they were certainly here .. but the French Government didn't seem to have any interest ... the biggest source of the "French Colony" idea seems to have come from a drunk local (sound familiar) who was trying to get the British to come here for his own ends ... he told a completley ficticious story on a drunken ocassion in a pub ... and the constabulary believed him ... I will try to source this for you ..

**Zedder** · 1st February 2013, 10:58

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Cool. Thanks for that. I must admit I haven't looked at the figures since I taught Treaty classes - and that's a few years now ..

Lots of discussion about what the French were doing - they were certainly here .. but the French Government didn't seem to have any interest ... the biggest source of the "French Colony" idea seems to have come from a drunk local (sound familiar) who was trying to get the British to come here for his own ends ... he told a completley ficticious story on a drunken ocassion in a pub ... and the constabulary believed him ... I will try to source this for you ..

Mate, in 1831, there was talk of the French annexing NZ. That started Maori down the path of asking the British for protection. French, and American, activity was growing all the time.

**007XX** · 1st February 2013, 16:37

Originally Posted by mashman

You need a challenge eh... ok, you've been added to the list of folk I'll contact (all 2 of you) should the day come that I get enough cash in my pocket that I can fund a small group of folk to have a crack at fleshing out NOW... before deciding whether or not to have a crack at getting it to the big table (maybe even leverage an existing political party or two if they're honestly open minded, pfffft)... should you arsed or convinced at the time that is. Ironically it will take money to get to that stage, doesn't everything these days.

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'm as far from being PM candidate material as you can make them.
I'm a woman (we know how well that went the last time), I'm French (oh yeah, that'd go down well) and lack charisma / credentials for a position of that importance.

Besides, you really need someone as squeaky clean as possible

But I'll definitely be interested in knowing more when the time comes. Writing political speeches was always a possible career choice for me, and I'd feel a heck of a lot more confident doing that.

In the meantime, I'll check out the reading material you mentioned.

**007XX** · 1st February 2013, 16:39

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ... I think there are some very aesthetic Moto Guzzis out there ...

Reliability? Well - you have to sacrfice something to get a hand-built Eyetalian motorcycle ...

Originally Posted by nudemetalz

errr...excuse me,..cheeky girly???
Mine is one of the finest in styling,...and err...sometimes umm,...reliability....

Hence the use of "In My Humble Opinion". I know of plenty of Guzzis fans but I have as yet to find one I *actually* find attractive.

And I'm an engineer's wife, I don't do unreliable, it's just not done.

**mashman** · 1st February 2013, 17:03

Originally Posted by 007XX

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'm as far from being PM candidate material as you can make them.
I'm a woman (we know how well that went the last time), I'm French (oh yeah, that'd go down well) and lack charisma / credentials for a position of that importance.

Besides, you really need someone as squeaky clean as possible

But I'll definitely be interested in knowing more when the time comes. Writing political speeches was always a possible career choice for me, and I'd feel a heck of a lot more confident doing that.

In the meantime, I'll check out the reading material you mentioned.

That's kind of the point of making you PM. You may actually get shit done and stayed done... Someone's gotta do it, and I'm guessing my charm and tact won't work on politicians

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Ach it's the 21st century, gender doesn't matter... Thatcher did well (so they say), Merkel is doing well (so they say) and in your case, you could be the modern day Lagarde and she ain't exactly oozing charisma and given her credentials and general demeanor I'd doubt she goes down well either

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Yet another modern day myth to discredit potential challengers. Tell them that you've lived a varied fun life, then tell them to fuck off and mind their own business and you'd probably be a shoe in

maybe.

Done... as long as you don't mind contributing to policy too. Actually, given that you'd be writing the speeches, you'd probably be better off delivering them too... albeit not necessarily as the PM

but it'd be silly not to mix the two. Fuck me, a PM that writes their own speeches and delivers them as they were written, radical man

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have fun dear, I mean your highness.

**Ocean1** · 1st February 2013, 18:21

Originally Posted by 007XX

I'll check out the reading material you mentioned.

All far too shiny.

**Ocean1** · 1st February 2013, 18:23

Originally Posted by 007XX

I know of plenty of Guzzis fans but I have as yet to find one I *actually* find attractive.

Steady on, Mr metalz might not be Brad Pitt but I don't think he...

Ah, yes, sorry, as you were.

**007XX** · 1st February 2013, 18:34

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Steady on, Mr metalz might not be Brad Pitt but I don't think he...

Ah, yes, sorry, as you were.

I did think afterwards I could have punctuated that better, but oh well...

And Metalz doesn't need to be Brad Pitt, he gives great hugs.

**98tls** · 2nd February 2013, 20:58

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

The benefit system was designed as a safety net for those who need it - but it has become a system which provides a comfortable middle class life style for lazy bludgers ...

Sweet.Had word the other day the partys over and considered doing something about another job,wont bother.

**Edbear** · 2nd February 2013, 21:21

Originally Posted by 007XX

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'm as far from being PM candidate material as you can make them.
I'm a woman (we know how well that went the last time), I'm French (oh yeah, that'd go down well) and lack charisma / credentials for a position of that importance.

Besides, you really need someone as squeaky clean as possible

But I'll definitely be interested in knowing more when the time comes. Writing political speeches was always a possible career choice for me, and I'd feel a heck of a lot more confident doing that.

In the meantime, I'll check out the reading material you mentioned.

Who ever said you lacked charisma???0