Holy Shit the LAMS list guys DO care!

**Glowerss** · 3rd April 2013, 08:25

Color me fucking surprised. I submitted the SV400 to be LAMS approved some ~4-5 months ago, and was told that it JUST missed out ( 150.8 kw/tonne or something.) Was a bit gutted but thems the breaks amirite?

Opened my E-mail today, to find out of the blue, this.

Good morning Brian

I have reviewed the information that you supplied for the Suzuki SV400. All of the weights that are listed for the bike are the dry weights, if we take the 16l of fuel into account then we can add another 11kg to the bikes weight and this will make it LAMS compliant.

Power kW
Tare weight + 90 kg

kw per tonne
39
268
1000
145.5223881

The Suzuki SV400 and SV400S will be added to the approved LAMS list in the May update.

Regards
__________________________________________________ ________

Graeme Swan

Nothing like a little common sense in the morning to brighten your day!

**Monkfish** · 3rd April 2013, 09:04

WOW the system actually worked.

I bet ya wernt expecting that one were ya.

**ducatilover** · 3rd April 2013, 09:13

What colour is fucking surprised?
I may have to look at a few more bikes to add to the list then? I think the Honda Bros650 may just sneak in with fluids. Not that it's a good learner bike or anything

**The End** · 3rd April 2013, 09:38

So what happens if you get pulled over by the

on fuel reserve?

**Glowerss** · 3rd April 2013, 09:39

Originally Posted by ducatilover

What colour is fucking surprised?
I may have to look at a few more bikes to add to the list then? I think the Honda Bros650 may just sneak in with fluids. Not that it's a good learner bike or anything

The watercooled CB400 superfours would squeeze in with fluids at 151kw/tonne dry. The bros650 wouldn't, I don't think. It's 160kw/tonne without fluids.

It does beg the question of whether or not they're going to take fluids into account from now on or not. It should let a few more solid bikes squeek in if they are. Submit away, I say! The chap who manages the LAMS list seems, on the whole, a rather good sort.

**bluninja** · 3rd April 2013, 09:49

Perhaps they should also take into account the weight of the rider

that would make LAMS really interesting.

Well done on getting a government system to "work".

**ducatilover** · 3rd April 2013, 09:53

Originally Posted by Glowerss

The watercooled CB400 superfours would squeeze in with fluids at 151kw/tonne dry. The bros650 wouldn't, I don't think. It's 160kw/tonne without fluids.

It does beg the question of whether or not they're going to take fluids into account from now on or not. It should let a few more solid bikes squeek in if they are. Submit away, I say! The chap who manages the LAMS list seems, on the whole, a rather good sort.

I wouldn't have thought the bros would have that much of a power to weight? They're no faster in a straight line than a watercooled CB400 (Eh Bogan...)
Taking fluids in to account may be fun, some dry weights are without fork oil etc

Sent from my PC using things and stuff

**Gareth123** · 3rd April 2013, 09:57

What info did you submit to them?

Where did you submit it too?

Did you need to provide sources for your information?

I ask this because I have a old cm400 custom that comes in under 150kw/tonne really easily but isn't on the list and my friend wants to buy it as his first bike.

**Stirts** · 3rd April 2013, 09:58

Originally Posted by Glowerss

It does beg the question of whether or not they're going to take fluids into account from now on or not.

Originally Posted by bluninja

Perhaps they should also take into account the weight of the rider

that would make LAMS really interesting.

Sweet, I am prone to retain water from time to time, and often have a full bladder. And what about the boys who have not had a bit in a while, surely the fluid in their ballsack should count too?

**Big Dave** · 3rd April 2013, 10:08

The loquaciousness of the LAMS.

**Glowerss** · 3rd April 2013, 10:16

Originally Posted by Gareth123

What info did you submit to them?

Where did you submit it too?

Did you need to provide sources for your information?

I ask this because I have a old cm400 custom that comes in under 150kw/tonne really easily but isn't on the list and my friend wants to buy it as his first bike.

There's an easy ass form to fill in. http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett....html#applying if you go there you'll find it.

Find a few websites quoting the same specs for the bike, calculate the power/weight ratio using the formula they've provded (power(kw) divided by weight (kg) + 90)) and email the form in. It took me all of about 5 minutes to do.

Guy got back to me the next day. Relatively painless considering you're still dealing with the NZTA.

**Tigadee** · 3rd April 2013, 14:04

Ha! Ha! Well done, sir!

**Grashopper** · 3rd April 2013, 14:28

I'm waiting for them to ask for the weight of the rider...

Hm, that little superfour is on my list of potential new bikes

Anyway, good to hear that it worked out.

**pritch** · 3rd April 2013, 15:24

These days Honda quote their weights as "ready to ride" or similar. So you can't add anything.

Some other manufactureres may be doing this, but some are still quoting dry weights. You'd need to have read the small print before you fill in any forms.

Still it's nice to see the beaurocrats showing an interest, I hope they can keep it up.