Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

It ranks as dubious as knowingly selling a car with a potentially fatal design flaw.

Why did you add the word 'potentially' to my post when you quoted it?

[TheDemonLord]

Why did you add the word 'potentially' to my post when you quoted it?

Why do you think?

[Katman]

Why do you think?

Fucked if I know - that's why I asked you.

So which action do you think carries the greater 'potential' risk - being treated with an HIV contaminated product or driving a Pinto?

[husaberg]

Actually, that is precisely my point:

You AREN'T up in arms about corruption wherever it happens.

You rip one industry to shreds over dubious business practices that occured 30-40 years ago, but not a peep about another industry which also engaged in dubious business practices around 40-50 years ago.

You pick and choose and the method for what you pick and choose is based on whether there is a nifty conspiracy theory or someway for you to connect it back to the groups you hate, so as to be able to provide justification for your hatred.


Also - bonus point: Henry Ford was a known anti-semite... isn't that a coincidence, that you don't attack a company guilty of corruption but was founded by someone who hated the same people you hate....

Funny that...

Also funny that hes never going on about how evil the Disney Corperation is either.
Why do you think he supports everything, no mater how demented, that yokel and axzlke post.

[Katman]

Also funny that hes never going on about how evil the Disney Corperation is either.
Why do you think he supports everything, no mater how demented, that yokel and axzlke post.

Could you possibly be any more retarded?

[yokel]

Could you possibly be any more retarded?

With husawank there's always room for more retardation.

[husaberg]

Could you possibly be any more retarded?

Fuck yeah, easily
Step one
Change my user name to Katman
Step two
Consider any conspiracy theory, no matter how stupid, highly plausible.
Then rant on about it incessantly.
Step three
Remove madness's testicles with a rusty knife and put them in his mouth
Step four
Believe in the alien lizard man theory

[Katman]

With husawank there's always room for more retardation.

It appears you're right.

Fuck yeah, easily
Step one
Get a frontal lobotomy.
Step two
Consider any conspiracy theory, no matter how stupid, highly plausible.
Step three
Remove my testicles
Step four
Change my user name to Katman

[Madness]

It appears you're right.

It appears he's forgotten having already taken steps one and three.

[TheDemonLord]

Fucked if I know - that's why I asked you.

So which action do you think carries the greater 'potential' risk - being treated with an HIV contaminated product or driving a Pinto?

Fucked if I know - that's why I asked you.

For starters few viruses have a 100% infection rate (Although I'll grant you - the risk of catching HIV from a blood transfusion with HIV positive blood is about 90%).
Secondly, not all of the blood products would have been contaminated (if memory serves this was before they could effectively screen for HIV, so there was no way to know what products were and werent contaminated)

So adding potentially was correct.

I had a quick read across a few sites - and what was interesting is a Conspiracy site leads with the title bayer-corp-once-infected-millions-of-people-with-hiv

And yet when I looked at other sources, The total numbers are something like: 2,000 people in the UK (although estimates do vary) and the Bayer settlement was for 20,000 people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bayer-ad...ot-in-english/

Now, I know Maths is historically not one of Conspiracy Theorists strong points - but there is a bit of difference between 'Millions' and 20,000 (something in the magnitude of at least 100 times)

[Katman]

And yet when I looked at other sources, The total numbers are something like: 2,000 people in the UK (although estimates do vary) and the Bayer settlement was for 20,000 people.

So 20,000 people contracted a terminal disease due to Bayer knowingly dumping a contaminated product on the market - all because they didn't want to lose the dollars.

And you have the gall to defend them.

Do you still think your Pinto analogy is valid?

[TheDemonLord]

So 20,000 people contracted a terminal disease due to Bayer knowingly dumping a contaminated product on the market - all because they didn't want to lose the dollars.

And you have the gall to defend them.

Again, I'm not defending them - Multiple people have pointed this out to you.

I condemn what they did, but in the same way I condemn when other industries and companies when they too do something disreputable. It's why I'm in favor of appropriate and adequate regulation as a safeguard and check against this sort of practice. Furthermore I also balance what they did against what else they have done - in this case producing antibacterial drugs used during WW2 and given what we know about WW1 and the mortality rate from infection (as opposed to the actual wound received in combat) - it's reasonable to assume this alone saved hundreds of thousands of lives, if not millions.

So to sum up - yes they did something bad, but they also did (and continue to do) a lot of good. My point remains however that your hatred towards them and not other companies is both disproportionate and targeted - showing you to be inherently biased.

Bonus cognitive dissonance question - do you condemn Bayers' role in the Holocaust?

[Katman]

Bonus cognitive dissonance question - do you condemn Bayers' role in the Holocaust?

Well since I haven't seen any concrete proof that millions of jews were gassed, your question is rather pointless.

[TheDemonLord]

well since i haven't seen any concrete proof that millions of jews were gassed, your question is rather pointless.

boom!

Headshot!

[Katman]

boom!

Headshot!

We've been through all this before and none of you ever managed to provide any concrete evidence of millions dying in gas chambers.