Optimistic sellers

[Autech]

Yerp, FB pages are great for selling that bike you just stole.

Having just sold a bike and a car on TM in the past month I think it works ok.

It's still the best, but FB has just introduced a Marketplace feature on their phone app which should hopefully level the playing field. The success fees TM charge are pure extortion, if a good competitor were to emerge with the financial backing they would have to start taking notice.

FB groups are great for DERP and can be a good way to earn a buck if you pay attention, lots of cheap bikes with bugger all wrong you can fix up and list on TM.

[Scubbo]

It's still the best, but FB has just introduced a Marketplace feature on their phone app which should hopefully level the playing field. The success fees TM charge are pure extortion, if a good competitor were to emerge with the financial backing they would have to start taking notice.

FB groups are great for DERP and can be a good way to earn a buck if you pay attention, lots of cheap bikes with bugger all wrong you can fix up and list on TM.

was a good cx500 for sale the other day, cheap as chips in original well stored low KMs too... better than the ones on trademe wanting 5+K and have done million kms

[F5 Dave]

A 'what?' CX?

(Ducks for cover as the Beardies rally).

[R650R]

Ex Demo bikes sold by the dealer.... back in the day there used to be quite a price difference between buying the 'groupie' ex demo compared to new.

Now dealers are selling ex demo 20k bikes with only 1 to 2k off the price and with 2000-6000km on the clock....
Would you, have you bought an ex demo????

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ex Demo bikes sold by the dealer.... back in the day there used to be quite a price difference between buying the 'groupie' ex demo compared to new.

Now dealers are selling ex demo 20k bikes with only 1 to 2k off the price and with 2000-6000km on the clock....
Would you, have you bought an ex demo????

Personally, I think they're kidding themselves. Unless it's the smaller bikes, that don't have any margin in them at all.

[Gremlin]

Now dealers are selling ex demo 20k bikes with only 1 to 2k off the price and with 2000-6000km on the clock....
Would you, have you bought an ex demo????

My BMW was ex-demo. Feb 2010 ish reg, bought Jan 2011. Brand new was around $39.5k (a base GSA cost less, but this was equivalent spec to demo). I put the 4000th km on the clock during the test ride, and it's list price was $35.5k. Shop said they'd put most of the km on.

I could have bought new, got a helmet (didn't want) and panniers (did want) thrown in at that point. Demo didn't apply for deal, but the shop threw one pannier in, and I bought the other at cost as part of the deal. The demo was the only non-new available in the country (I wanted 2010 or later).

For me, it was mainly the $4k off the price over new, plus taking a bath on my previous bike on trade, bought new, didn't want the depreciation again. Also, that sort of bike to me, as a demo is fine. I wouldn't buy an ex-demo sportsbike for example, as we know how most of those test riders treated it.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah but a modern litrebike in Auckland or Wellington for the short rides most grant, where can you thrash it?

[Madness]

Yeah but a modern litrebike in Auckland or Wellington for the short rides most grant, where can you thrash it?

You can do anything you like on Auckland motorways. Most people just Facebook.

[Drew]

Yeah but a modern litrebike in Auckland or Wellington for the short rides most grant, where can you thrash it?

You know damn well where to thrash a litre bike from here.

[jasonu]

My BMW was ex-demo. Feb 2010 ish reg, bought Jan 2011. Brand new was around $39.5k .

Jesus how much? Do they come with $30k worth of gold???

[Gremlin]

Yeah but a modern litrebike in Auckland or Wellington for the short rides most grant, where can you thrash it?

Probably trash more than thrash. I know of one very new Honda demo, test rider overtook a car (rural area) then kinda... tried to avoid the next corner. Dealer was less than happy about the very 2nd hand condition of a very new bike

Jesus how much? Do they come with $30k worth of gold???

Plenty of bikes around that figure, then there are bikes with no luggage that cost more: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...1110214756.htm

[nzspokes]

Jesus how much? Do they come with $30k worth of gold???

Well to be fair Gremlin has actually used the bike and ridden it. A lot. So depreciation does not really count. Its those that buy a new bike, put 2000ks on it in a year and lose 7k that get me. My bike was a few years old and only had 11,000ks on it. Previous owner would have taken a 8k hit on it.

[Ocean1]

A 'what?' CX?

(Ducks for cover as the Beardies rally).

http://silodrome.com/honda-cx500/

[Ocean1]

Plenty of bikes around that figure, then there are bikes with no luggage that cost more: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...1110214756.htm

It'd be instructive to compare major brand prices overseas, but I believe BMW prices here are well more than elsewhere.

Other brands are too, but a lot of the popularity of any given model in any particular country is often down to price comparisons completely irrelevant in NZ.

[Big Dog]

+1 on price vs depreciation being a moot point.
Doesn't seem to matter what I buy or the age.
Every bike I have ever owned has cost me roughly $1000 on day one, another $1000 every year including reg and about $600 per service interval including tyres.
Doesn't account for finance costs because that is the cost of borrowing the money not having the bike.
Of paid 7.5 for my 10000km bike put 60000 on it over 2.4 years, put another 3k into servicing and reg. Makes that about 6k loss or about 10c a km of I sold the bike for $4.5k.

Cheap as.


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