"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
Seems lane splitting is ok up in Aucks.... couple weeks and nothing in the mail.
Done at sensible speeds and even gave the 2nd cop a courtesy hello wave before I passed.
Maybe donut shop was calling....
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
So what?
When I'm out riding my motorcycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, a trailer (even when I'm not using them), paying it for my employees and on my income (even if I'm not actually at my place of work)
We can all play that game, dunno why cyclists think they're special.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
I read the statement of approval conditions for Cbta 6R and 6F, it says that you will be penalised is you split/filter when it's unsafe, but not penalised for carrying out the manoeuvre. Which means it is an approved manoeuvre as far as nzta are concerned.
I split for several years when commuting, and would acknowledge bike cops as I went by. I never got stopped. My rules for doing so were that I would remain in second gear, 1,000 cc bike (speed=being able to stop within the distance that I can see is clear). If I needed to change to 3rd gear, it was time to slip back into the traffic flow.
However, I would often see bikes doing 70kmh or more, and they don't have a HOPE of stopping if someone changes lanes in front of them. Those are the riders that get pulled, and injured also, and give us all a bad name.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
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Then the statement is meaningless. It's the speed differential that's important. Not the actual speed.
Not at all. I make a habit of keeping my eyes open and I know when to slow down. Too often people assume that if one says they travel at x kph that they mean continuously with no regard for the circumstances.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
stopping is irrelevant, in fact stopping in multi lane traffic when everyone else is not thinking about atopping is prob more dangerous than splitting.
You only need to be able to AVOID colliding with an imminent threat.
Christ if you had to be able to stop for someone changing lanes in front of you then trucks wouldn't be allowed to go anywhere......
I used to lane split at speeds a bit above 1 dollar and three cents.... you get a feel for it, not saying its 100% safe but do something often enough and you get a feel for what can be safely accomplished.
Just like overtaking in a large truck without an overtaking lane, its entirely leagally and safely doable in the right circumstances with right driver even if averga ejoe car driver that only uses passing lanes is aghast at the idea....
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