Lane splitting crackdown in Wellington?

[rastuscat]

If that is the case, then why don't they pay registration? After all, they are public road users as well..

Ah, that old chestnut.

Actually I do. I register my bikes, cars and trailers. When I'm riding my cycle I'm still paying.

Exactly the same advantage is available to you.

[swbarnett]

Ah, that old chestnut.

Actually I do. I register my bikes, cars and trailers. When I'm riding my cycle I'm still paying.

Exactly the same advantage is available to you.

What about those that only own a bicycle?

I like the system that they had in Switzerland when I was there. fr5 a year (roughly $5) to use the roads and you get $2M liability cover along with it. Of course, in Switzerland most people are cycle or public transport only.

[rastuscat]

What about those that only own a bicycle?

They pay for the damage they cause to roads.

Nil.

[swbarnett]

They pay for the damage they cause to roads.

Nil.

Very good point.

They should not be charged for road upkeep. ACC, however, is another matter.

[R650R]

Seems lane splitting is ok up in Aucks.... couple weeks and nothing in the mail.
Done at sensible speeds and even gave the 2nd cop a courtesy hello wave before I passed.
Maybe donut shop was calling....

[swbarnett]

Seems lane splitting is ok up in Aucks.... couple weeks and nothing in the mail.
Done at sensible speeds and even gave the 2nd cop a courtesy hello wave before I passed.
Maybe donut shop was calling....

You'll be fine. I lost count years ago how many cops I've split past. Some even made room.

[rastuscat]

Very good point.

They should not be charged for road upkeep. ACC, however, is another matter.

When I'm out riding my bicycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, two bikes and a trailer.

Even when not using them.

I don't want to use ACC, but it's good to know it's there.

[Bassmatt]

When I'm out riding my bicycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, two bikes and a trailer.

Even when not using them.

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So what?
When I'm out riding my motorcycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, a trailer (even when I'm not using them), paying it for my employees and on my income (even if I'm not actually at my place of work)
We can all play that game, dunno why cyclists think they're special.

[Moi]

So what?
When I'm out riding my motorcycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, a trailer (even when I'm not using them), paying it for my employees and on my income (even if I'm not actually at my place of work)

We can all play that game, dunno why cyclists think they're special.

don't you mean... dunno why motocyclists think they're special

[swbarnett]

When I'm out riding my bicycle I'm still paying ACC levies on two cars, two bikes and a trailer.

Even when not using them.

Which is an excellent point and illustrates perfectly the absurdity of charging ACC by type of vehicle (or any other demarcation). Take it out of the general tax take and all these arguments disappear.

[Tricia1000]

I read the statement of approval conditions for Cbta 6R and 6F, it says that you will be penalised is you split/filter when it's unsafe, but not penalised for carrying out the manoeuvre. Which means it is an approved manoeuvre as far as nzta are concerned.
I split for several years when commuting, and would acknowledge bike cops as I went by. I never got stopped. My rules for doing so were that I would remain in second gear, 1,000 cc bike (speed=being able to stop within the distance that I can see is clear). If I needed to change to 3rd gear, it was time to slip back into the traffic flow.
However, I would often see bikes doing 70kmh or more, and they don't have a HOPE of stopping if someone changes lanes in front of them. Those are the riders that get pulled, and injured also, and give us all a bad name.


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[swbarnett]

I would often see bikes doing 70kmh or more, and they don't have a HOPE of stopping if someone changes lanes in front of them.

If you're talking about a speed differential of 70 or more then I would agree. I have split at 100 and had someone change lanes on me without indicating. Because my speed differential low enough (about 30 or so) I had no problem whatsoever controlling the situation.

[Swoop]

If you're talking about a speed differential of 70 or more then I would agree. I have split at 100 and had someone change lanes on me without indicating. Because my speed differential low enough (about 30 or so) I had no problem whatsoever controlling the situation.

She's not talking about a "differential" but splitting at 70kmh (presumably the traffic is much slower?).
If you are splitting at 100kmh shouldn't your username be changed to Skidmark?

[swbarnett]

She's not talking about a "differential" but splitting at 70kmh (presumably the traffic is much slower?).

Then the statement is meaningless. It's the speed differential that's important. Not the actual speed.

If you are splitting at 100kmh shouldn't your username be changed to Skidmark?

Not at all. I make a habit of keeping my eyes open and I know when to slow down. Too often people assume that if one says they travel at x kph that they mean continuously with no regard for the circumstances.

[R650R]

70kmh or more, and they don't have a HOPE of stopping if someone changes lanes in front of them.

stopping is irrelevant, in fact stopping in multi lane traffic when everyone else is not thinking about atopping is prob more dangerous than splitting.
You only need to be able to AVOID colliding with an imminent threat.
Christ if you had to be able to stop for someone changing lanes in front of you then trucks wouldn't be allowed to go anywhere......

I used to lane split at speeds a bit above 1 dollar and three cents.... you get a feel for it, not saying its 100% safe but do something often enough and you get a feel for what can be safely accomplished.
Just like overtaking in a large truck without an overtaking lane, its entirely leagally and safely doable in the right circumstances with right driver even if averga ejoe car driver that only uses passing lanes is aghast at the idea....