Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

**Brian d marge** · 29th March 2014, 12:55

Probably a bit late but do go down to the woods today and join in

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...nst-trade-deal

You think the cost of living is too high now , wait until this little doozie goes though !

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Stephen

**oldrider** · 29th March 2014, 13:12

New Zealanders want to embrace the world ... the world expects a few hugs in return!

We are now part of a global society, swim with the current or drown!

**tri boy** · 29th March 2014, 13:26

Feck all detail in that lil article.
Just some quotes from a few chicken littles.
Killing sovereign rights etc

**Katman** · 29th March 2014, 17:01

Was what's people's take on this TPPA business?

**awa355** · 29th March 2014, 17:24

It's all bad news, unless you own shares in American companies playing the world stage.

**Akzle** · 29th March 2014, 18:21

jeeeeeewwwws!

**pete376403** · 29th March 2014, 18:44

Lots of detail here:
http://wikileaks.org/tpp/

This is just one section covering the intellectual property rights but this is the one that we (NZ) will be screwed with by (for example) the big pharmaceutical companies. It is well known that big pharma completely opposes the way pharmac negotiates bulk pricing for New Zealand.

**Robbo** · 29th March 2014, 19:12

A bit more information about TPPA in this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

There is also a lot of the usual misinformation and scaremongering out there as well. I was watching the protesters on the TV One news tonight and several of them when asked what they thought that the TPPA meant for NZ said they did'nt know (typical) but were protesting against the Govt. anyway.
A point of interest is that the TPPA was first signed by Helen Clark in 2005 when Labour were the Govt.
If it opens up more global trade for our exports it can't be half bad, can it? after all it has been partly in place for the past eight years and i have'nt heard too many complaints during this time.

**Oakie** · 29th March 2014, 19:26

TPPA ... we don't know the details so I can't have an opinion yet. Somehow the protesters can though. We'll be seing a lot of this sort of thing until the election. I can see the placards now "Down with this sort of thing" (so they can be used to protest about different things each weekend) Hmmm ... a couple of thousand people across the country protested about TPPA. That means well over four million people didn't protest...

**oldrider** · 29th March 2014, 20:25

We have a double up thread! http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ic-partnership

**pete376403** · 29th March 2014, 20:29

The information is there if you look for it. Wikileaks has released a lot of stuff http://wikileaks.org/tpp/

**Oakie** · 29th March 2014, 20:38

Originally Posted by pete376403

The information is there if you look for it. Wikileaks has released a lot of stuff http://wikileaks.org/tpp/

And try to tell me THAT won't have been a selective release!

**mashman** · 29th March 2014, 21:09

Originally Posted by Oakie

And try to tell me THAT won't have been a selective release!

At least we get to see some of it.

**pete376403** · 29th March 2014, 21:19

Or here: http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz/wp-co...ssues-Gen-.pdf

May well be selective but when the government refuses to release anything other than "trust us, we know what's best for you" where else are you going to get information?

**Oakie** · 29th March 2014, 21:27

Originally Posted by pete376403

Or here: http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz/wp-co...ssues-Gen-.pdf

May well be selective but when the government refuses to release anything other than "trust us, we know what's best for you" where else are you going to get information?

Yeah well I suppose that's the risk you take when you keep things under wraps. Point conceded.