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Thread: Intermediate bike advice, moving on from a VTR250?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Pull three of the plug leads and it may just squeeze in ..........
    Okay - now I just have to caclulate that!

    LAMS rules:


    a maximum power-to-weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne (the power is that specified by the manufacturer and the weight is the weight specified by the manufacturer plus 90kgs for the rider and riding gear); and
    an upper engine capacity limit of 660cc.

    So a single Hayabusa cylinder is 325cc (1300/4) so we are good there.

    Power according to wikipedia is 147 KW - so per cylinder is (147/4) is 36.75 KW, Dry weight is 250 KG (according to Wiki) so plus 90 for the rider is 340. so power per tonne is: 36.75 / 0.340 which gives us 108 KW/tonne

    So yes, a single cylinder Hayabusa would be LAMS approved (just)

    but not a 2 cylinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    So yes, a single cylinder Hayabusa would be LAMS approved (just)

    but not a 2 cylinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Okay - now I just have to caclulate that!

    LAMS rules:


    a maximum power-to-weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne (the power is that specified by the manufacturer and the weight is the weight specified by the manufacturer plus 90kgs for the rider and riding gear); and
    an upper engine capacity limit of 660cc.

    So a single Hayabusa cylinder is 325cc (1300/4) so we are good there.

    Power according to wikipedia is 147 KW - so per cylinder is (147/4) is 36.75 KW, Dry weight is 250 KG (according to Wiki) so plus 90 for the rider is 340. so power per tonne is: 36.75 / 0.340 which gives us 108 KW/tonne

    So yes, a single cylinder Hayabusa would be LAMS approved (just)

    but not a 2 cylinder
    shame you can't shove in a restrictor like you can in the UK...
    33bhp 'busa would be hilarious!

    on a serious note, VFR400. That is all. Only the pretty ones.
    Gotta love that cam gear whine, gets me every time!

    Damn I miss my VFR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyblade View Post
    shame you can't shove in a restrictor like you can in the UK...
    33bhp 'busa would be hilarious!

    on a serious note, VFR400. That is all. Only the pretty ones.
    Gotta love that cam gear whine, gets me every time!

    Damn I miss my VFR.
    Except they're not LAMS.

    RVF400 is, and is the fastest LAMS bike one can buy, but you pay accordingly (if you can find one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post
    Except they're not LAMS.

    RVF400 is, and is the fastest LAMS bike one can buy, but you pay accordingly (if you can find one)
    shame they don't make a BabyBusa, hell Honda, Kawasaki, KTM and a load of other companies have made decent sporty lams bikes, why don't suzuki get off their arses and make something cheap, new and looks like it's breaking the speed limit still?
    CBR500R's interest me for some reason.

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    They do the GSX650FU - which is rather nice...
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    have a look at the cagiva rapter 650

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    Depends on
    - how tall you are,
    - what your budget is.

    I would say that a gs500 would probably be too small for you if are have long legs as the saddle is quite low. perfectly competent bikes otherwise

    for my money a tall bike like a kawasaki klr650, Suzuki dl650 vstrom or similar would suit well

    here's the list http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

    good luck and let us know how you get on
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    Quote Originally Posted by StefM View Post
    There seems to be a few Suzuki GS500 available on trademe up there. IS this the sort of bike that I could handle and would improve my riding whilst not being too much for me??
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by StefM View Post
    Any other opinions on which bike or make is a good idea? 400 or 500 cc, i think I would hurt myself having too much fun on a 600+...
    Honda CB500 series, Kawa ER series or their 300cc Ninjas... I recall another lady rider a couple years ago who went from a GN to the GS500 and she was very happy with that move.
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    ducati monster lite? Or the 400 for cheaper ACC?
    They're pretty great all-rounders and make a nice rumble... oh and the frames look neat all red or white.

    Costs aren't ridiculous and they're actually pretty cool bikes that'll last well.
    Providing you give them an italian tune-up here and there...

    I'd ride one happily and I'm 5'11"

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