maybe thread should be titled "best bike for gravel with a $xxxx budget"
other wise my best gravel bike would be one off those 450 dakar bikes
maybe thread should be titled "best bike for gravel with a $xxxx budget"
other wise my best gravel bike would be one off those 450 dakar bikes
'Good things come to those who wait'
Bollocks, get of your arse and go get it
The best bike for gravel as proven at the Erzberg Prologue, is a factory KTM 690 Dakar bike.
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The problem that most of us have is not "what's the best bike for gravel" but what's the best compromise? as it's never all gravel, or all mud, or all rocks / streams / clay whatever, it's always just about any surface each day. For instance, last saturday was the MMMM which I had to bail from to head home at midday. So I started off with incredibly dangerous wet grass, a bit of forestry roads, a stream, several bastards on fast bikes trying to kill me, gravel, gravel roads and sealed roads. All up I did just under 1000kms in 11 hours, I'm glad I was on the fat pig (BMW R100) or my arse would have been toast by mid afternoon, I wasn't the fastest bike out there but I am happy with my compromise.
Good luck with yours!
when you are next looking at the 690, check how far the frame sticks out, which gives the forks less room to travel as they turn from side to side. most motors go under the frame part that is running straight from the steering head, but because the 690 frame goes around the motor it prevents the front forks turning as far. First time riding, I couldn't turn as tight, couldn't correct the slide, and would fall off during tight trails. Basically, I needed to adapt my riding/body position from riding the older style frames, meaning for tight corners...you have to tip the bike, before turning. Ride the throttle more, and for tight trails, use the rear brake to silde it around. BUT these bikes are for fast, Dakar style riding which is fast gravel/hardpack. Torque from these motors, is amazing. I have geared the bike up from at 15T front to a 16T just so the torque lasts longer...and I've run this taller gearing for years and done all the rides where you think lower gearing would be better ie awakino saddle...just ride faster,
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the 690 is indeed a hoot in the gravel (of just about any size). If I were a better rider I could easily of dragged off Bart on his bicycle tired DR and GPSMan on that 530 or even his old KLR....DRGirl on the DR2hundy even
....wherezz that track go
and show us your stuff...
enough dicking around on bike choice...just get one, any year...and get on wif it!!!
...back in the saddle, and getting a little!
The best - ie fastest point to point - machine I've ever ridden on gravel was the CB350/4 Barrie Alderdice set up for road trials in the 1970s. WFO the whole time, smooth, low CG, no pissing around going slow by going sideways, hooked up or wheelspun as you liked; just magic. Simple narrow road tyres gave heaps of grip and never chunked out.
Quicker than any of my own bikes on gravel point to point: including the KTMs, obviously the DR650 and the Vara, any of my Triumphs, my VFR with knobbies, the lot.
Dicie was 2nd in the Shell 800 on it one year. Hosed on the XT and TT500s (and another 212 competitors including me at 10th), only lost first place by not hanging around enough before entering one or two checkpoints.
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