Misuse of Drugs Act 1975; a question for the "lawyers"

**SMOKEU** · 2nd September 2014, 19:32

I have a hypothetical question:

Let's say there's a class B controlled substance that is available as a prescription only drug, let's call it "substance A". There is another drug that is VERY similar chemically speaking to "substance A", and we will call this "substance "B".

"Substance B" is NOT listed in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975, and it is not internationally controlled. Do the analog laws mean that "substance B" is also a controlled substance, due to its similarities to "substance A"?

**mossy1200** · 2nd September 2014, 19:36

I think if you mix substance A and substance B and heat then add substance C and D your breaking the law.

**haydes55** · 2nd September 2014, 19:38

Substance A is that medicinal marijuana isn't it?

**bogan** · 2nd September 2014, 19:41

Originally Posted by mossy1200

I think if you mix substance A and substance B and heat then add substance C and D your breaking the law.

And if C and D are Paprika and Cardamom you're breaking the law, tastily.

**Akzle** · 2nd September 2014, 20:09

schedule b is quite specific.
So is the act.
Read it.
And decide if you are an actor or not.

**SMOKEU** · 2nd September 2014, 20:59

Originally Posted by haydes55

Substance A is that medicinal marijuana isn't it?

It has nothing to do with cannabis.

Originally Posted by Akzle

schedule b is quite specific.
So is the act.
Read it.
And decide if you are an actor or not.

SWIM may seek professional legal advice to clarify.

**ducatilover** · 2nd September 2014, 22:10

Just shelf it if you're being caught.

**AllanB** · 2nd September 2014, 22:18

Hitting the roids young man?

**SMOKEU** · 3rd September 2014, 07:14

Originally Posted by AllanB

Hitting the roids young man?

SWIM wasn't intending to use steroids.

**Banditbandit** · 3rd September 2014, 09:20

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I have a hypothetical question:

Let's say there's a class B controlled substance that is available as a prescription only drug, let's call it "substance A". There is another drug that is VERY similar chemically speaking to "substance A", and we will call this "substance "B".

"Substance B" is NOT listed in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975, and it is not internationally controlled. Do the analog laws mean that "substance B" is also a controlled substance, due to its similarities to "substance A"?

No. Illicit chemicals are defined by their chemical formula - usually spelt out in the act .. any variation from that specified formula and the drug is not illegal ...

That's how the pseudo-cannabis drugs get past the legislation .. so substance B is not a controlled substance ..

ON an amusing aside - I saw a bunch of people get off growing cannabis charges (I know this is not about cannabis) ... they were caught with rubbish bags full (probably about eight bags) of cannabis leaf ... they got off because the DSIR tested the material and it did not contain enough THC to be illegal ... it was not Cannabis under the legal definition ...

(It had actually been washed to make oil .. we had a good laugh .. and the people walked ...)

**dinosaur** · 3rd September 2014, 09:33

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I have a hypothetical question:

Let's say there's a class B controlled substance that is available as a prescription only drug, let's call it "substance A". There is another drug that is VERY similar chemically speaking to "substance A", and we will call this "substance "B".

"Substance B" is NOT listed in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975, and it is not internationally controlled. Do the analog laws mean that "substance B" is also a controlled substance, due to its similarities to "substance A"?

So you were high when you wrote this???
First mistake; asking for advise on KB ......... LMAO, this is the quickest way to get uninformed, ill-formed, contradictory opinion ..... but good luck working out who's opinion is right or not:

But I'll give it a shot anyway; if B is equal to A then C must be the square of D ...... easy really
B=C (D/E - f)
B=x

Oh - when I was a young fella we smoked some catnip - it has all the same properties of dope, the cops busted us, but no charges were laid
it was a laugh - for about 10 minutes ....... that was the first time I met the Aliens

**Banditbandit** · 3rd September 2014, 09:52

Originally Posted by dinosaur

that was the first time I met the Aliens

Fuck off - I've never met you in my life !!!

**Akzle** · 3rd September 2014, 13:28

Originally Posted by dinosaur

Oh - when I was a young fella we smoked some catnip - it has all the same properties of dope, the cops busted us, but no charges were laid

what a hard guy. "busted by the cops" - fun fact, you can't get "busted" if you're not infringing legislation.

a shame you're wrong about the nepeta, too. being that it's an alkaloid "high" (like datura, or ciggies), not a cannabanoid one, and that it has different (still beneficial) effects, compared to cannabis.

hey, what was that you were saying about bad or just plain wrong advice?

**FJRider** · 3rd September 2014, 14:52

Originally Posted by Akzle

what a hard guy. "busted by the cops" - fun fact, you can't get "busted" if you're not infringing legislation.

There are two parts to the Misuse of drugs act ...

1: Possession of Restricted/illegal drugs.
2: Under the influence/impaired by drugs.

You can be busted for being Under the Influence of legal drugs (including Alcohol). Or if your driving is Impaired by the use of legal drugs ...

Including .. as such ... Prescription medicines. Even if YOU were prescribed them. With some of these .. you are forbidden to drive (and be prosecuted if caught doing so) when using them.

So ... Prosecution would be for misuse (under the influence of ..) .. not possession.