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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRaven View Post
    Actually I think I do feel I fixate myself to oncoming cars and corners a lot more with this bike (CBR600RR) compared to the CBR250R I had. I dunno if that is an effect the more forward leaning seating position has, bike has more power/loss of focus, fatigue, or maybe I am simply just not experienced enough on the bike. one thing for sure though: Target fixation is a bitch.

    yes wind does help a lot to feel more comfortable, the bike is naturally more comfortable to be ridden on the highway/high speeds.

    I have last ridden for 3 hours straight on the bike and yeah I do feel pretty fatigued, kinda got me off guard.

    So far wrist pain is mostly gone, its still there but take it off the throttle for 20 seconds/one stoplight and its all good again! I have however learned to grip on the tank better than last time. Leather pants works wonders until I get my stompgrips (God damn it eBay).

    However now I get hip pain if its not for wrist or back pain wtf. But at least I can ride for roughly 60% of the tank straight.


    Btw I only have test ridden the R6, and now own a 07 CBR600RR when it comes to supersports.

    Tempted to give those Riser bars a try, but I heard they can interfere with the controls and even cause degradation on turning performance - which is pretty unfavorable.

    comes to worst I might just swap over to a naked sports bike or a more upright seating bike, at the end of the day I figure that I just wanna enjoy my ride and not deal with the pains too much.

    Get a swiss ball and do some core strength work. Sit ups help as well. Perhaps even yoga. Forget the riser bars.

    What is more worrying is the idea that you're target fixating - where you look determines where you go. Find a senior mentor (or a good track day instructor) and work on drills to keep your focus correct, and your eyes moving between ahead, behind (mirrors), your escape routes etc. As you're cornering, you need to think about where you're looking, and how you're adjusting your line as a result. Track day instructors are awesome for tips and tricks - in Auckland the AMC runs fantastic skills sessions at places like Hampton Downs.

    Never, ever, ever - fixate on an oncoming car, or something fixed that will hurt to hit at 100 clicks.

    Finally, don't take any riding advice from morons like casino - they're literally clueless - find a good instructor or senior mentor here on KB, they have generally gone through a vetting process before they give advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
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    Try what the others have suggested. Relax would be the best one.
    But Can't help but think the CBR600 is the wrong bike for your body shape (whatever that might be) and general usage?
    These bikes are designed for you to be under the fairing in a race position so for general use its only wind support that aids that.
    Seems like your attracted to the RR style. But may not be the best option for you. Don't try riding lying on the freakin tank FFS ???

    I'm Guessing it's your second bike after the 250? Mate keep at it but there's plenty of bikes out there that will be just as fast for your experience and just as much fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Still here.

    But I'm universally loved these days.
    You were loved back then as well. Good to see that you're doing well. I'm back in NZ for a few weeks, selling some muscle cars and getting the rest of my stuff shipped to a sunnier place than this. KiddieBiker hasn't changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Still here.

    But I'm universally loved these days.
    Delusional as well ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRaven View Post
    So far wrist pain is mostly gone, its still there but take it off the throttle for 20 seconds/one stoplight and its all good again! I have however learned to grip on the tank better than last time. Leather pants works wonders until I get my stompgrips (God damn it eBay).

    However now I get hip pain if its not for wrist or back pain wtf. But at least I can ride for roughly 60% of the tank straight.
    Bar risers may help. Even though one or two inches is not much it alters your position the bike and that can make a big difference. The RR is a never gong to be a good long distance bike because thats not it's focus.

    Take a look at the 650F (could have been a good bike but I believe the ones here are 56hp not the 87hp versions) and the GSX650FU (heavy but otherwise a nice bike). Both these bikes have less aggressive riding positions but retain a sports feel. If your able to take them out for a test ride and you should be able to get a good feel how much of a difference a change in riding potion can make...

    Helibars https://www.helibars.com/product/hon...ent-handlebars along with Vortex Adjustable Rear Sets will soften the riding position making the bike more comfort when riding for long periods of time.

    Throttle locks will allow you to stretch out your hand when riding . Also the cramp your feeling may also be reduced with heavier bar end weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic View Post
    Even though one or two inches is not much it alters your position

    .

    And it's not the size so much, It's how you use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    And it's not the size so much, It's how you use it.
    Your mummy lied to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    You are overthinking this shit too much.


    Get some kms under your belt
    This man speaks the truth. To start with, get out there riding. In which case, staying ON THE SEAT is the correct riding position. Chances are, if you are off the seat, shit has gone sideways rather quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    You were loved back then as well. Good to see that you're doing well. I'm back in NZ for a few weeks, selling some muscle cars and getting the rest of my stuff shipped to a sunnier place than this. KiddieBiker hasn't changed.
    I'm more interested in hearing about these muscle cars mate...tell more? or a TM link!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    There is a saying with buying ski boots if they don't fit very well in the shop walk away but its surprising so many don't think that way when buying a bike considering they cost thousands more.
    Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I think that all other types of bike outsell sports bikes so there must be more people that can't be arsed "conditioning" themselves than do eh?
    My opinion is that, in general, there are a lot of people who can't be arsed doing anything, hence so many fat bastards out there. The OP is one of US who ARE interested in sportsbikes. Therefore, don't be a pussy, condition your body properly to suit the machine and intended activity. It's like someone buying work boots and then complaining that they can't run in them. Well duh. If you want work boots, buy work boots. If you want runners, buy runners. The type of riding you want to do, dictates the type of bike you'll want. Don't then moan about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.
    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I think that all other types of bike outsell sports bikes so there must be more people that can't be arsed "conditioning" themselves than do eh?
    Wow, you really missed the point on that one cassina. He's saying that some people LIKE to ride sports bikes, and consider the benefits of riding a high powered well handling machine worth the effort of keeping yourself in shape so that prolonged riding doesn't cause as much discomfort. Who cares if other types of bikes outsell sport bikes, different types of bikes for different types of people.

    Y'know what, fuck it. I'm just going to put you on ignore. Nothing anyone tells you seem to be taken on board anyway, so what's the point?

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