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Thread: Advice for fighting an Infringement Notice - for not putting my foot down?

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    Video of feet up stopping, copy of BHS requirements and have fun wasting the popos day in court.
    At most stop signs most riders wouldn't be able to concentrate on checking the road enough and balancing the stationary bike so I wouldn't recommend it as a practice but you do technically have a case and I, like the law is meant to, will give you the benefit of the doubt according to your description.
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    Playing devils advocate here, can I just drop my foot to the ground whilst still rolling and call it "Stopped". Officer says foot needs to be on the ground... Might be a salient point to bring up in your defence.

    (and yes I know it wouldn't be acceptable)
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    I can stop for hours without putting my feet down. Then again, I ride a sidecar
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    Better than a video. Address the judge in your opening statement that the law specifically requires you to stop "in a position and for a time that enables the driver to ascertain whether the line is clear; and remain stationary until the way is clear to proceed." That the Policeman advised that you didn't put your foot down when you stopped, therefore you were advised by him that you had indeed stopped. And that your bike is down in the carpark and you are prepared to demonstrate how a motorcyclist can indeed stop yet not have to put their foot on the ground. Then ask for the charge to be dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Steve View Post
    ....And that your bike is down in the carpark and you are prepared to demonstrate how a motorcyclist can indeed stop yet not have to put their foot on the ground. Then ask for the charge to be dismissed.
    Better still ask to demonstrate feet up balancing on your bike in the court room!

    Then do some skids
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    Better still ask to demonstrate feet up balancing on your bike in the court room!

    Then do some skids
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    your bike in the court room

    Then do some skids
    do it faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Where would the line get drawn? A quick "stomp" on the ground as you move slowly??
    I'd call it a dab, and I would be barely moving. The dab though would be purely for the benefit of any, as yet unseen, tax collector in the vicinity. Hopefully thus avoiding the situation in which you find yourself.

    As has been pointed out there are people can sit on an immobile bike for some time without putting a foot down. Should you be one such you could invite the assembled gathering outside the court to witness you perform. In the event that you can't perform this feat convincingly, you should probably just pay up and write it off to experience.

    People seem to be driving themselves under trains with a certain frequency so it shouldn't be a surprise that the are vigilant around crossings.

    On the other hand the former MoT officers were much tougher on all forms of compulsory stop than are the current enforcers of the law. Failing to stop is probably not as good an earner as issuing speeding tickets
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Video of feet up stopping, copy of BHS requirements and have fun wasting the popos day in court.
    Just sayin.

    If the Popo spends a day in court he's paid to be there. It'll be the taxpayers time that's wasted, not the Popos.

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    The question that will probably be asked is, 'If you were balancing the bike without having to put at least one foot down, then how can you say you spent the required time looking along the rail tracks, in both directions, to determine there was no risk.?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    ...... there are people can sit on an immobile bike for some time without putting a foot down. Should you be one such you could invite the assembled gathering outside the court to witness you perform. In the event that you can't perform this feat convincingly, you should probably just pay up and write it off to experience.
    Been riding for 35 plus years - and the bandit is an easy bike to balance - not a problem demonstrating
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    Wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    The question that will probably be asked is, 'If you were balancing the bike without having to put at least one foot down, then how can you say you spent the required time looking along the rail tracks, in both directions, to determine there was no risk.?'
    Why would you think that would be hard ??? just got to turn your head?
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    Coming to a complete stop without putting your feet down is no issue, after 2 seconds it may become one, but it can be done.

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    Then there is the scenario (I have done it) of stopping - the bike rolls backwards a tad, then moving off forward again. You are actually stopped twice! Try telling that to some of the clowns in uniform! Totally beyond them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Just sayin.

    If the Popo spends a day in court he's paid to be there. It'll be the taxpayers time that's wasted, not the Popos.
    who's budget? what would you rather be doing? given the attitude suggested this one would rather be hassling people. But yes what you state is why most people just pay up rather than challenge
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