Advice for fighting an Infringement Notice - for not putting my foot down?

**haydes55** · 16th December 2014, 21:36

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Just sayin.

If the Popo spends a day in court he's paid to be there. It'll be the taxpayers time that's wasted, not the Popos.

One less officer behind a radar gun for a day... Might just save a life.

**Racing Dave** · 17th December 2014, 05:39

If the cop was close enough to the rail crossing to see that you checked for trains (despite the alleged not stopping) why didn't you notice him noticing you? Maybe your observation skills need improving and this is the necessary wake-up call.

Just a thought...

**awayatc** · 17th December 2014, 06:16

Re racing dave's post

Trains are on rails......
cops are not (unfortunately )
you are supposed to check for trains...
not for cops
What part is it you don't understand.?

**Premature Accelerato** · 17th December 2014, 07:09

This is easy enough to put right. Make an appointment with a local JP (can be found through the local Citizns advice group). Get him to physically watch you stop with feet up for 5 seconds and then get him to sign a written statment to the fact. You can write it up factually but he must sign it and stamp it.

**wharekura** · 17th December 2014, 08:14

Originally Posted by Murray

Hey Pete lucky you weren't on the LOR ride down to the Toyrun he did 5 of us - same reasoning "no foot down".
Great charity day but to the wrong people

This was it

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**Murray** · 17th December 2014, 09:02

Originally Posted by wharekura

This was it

Cool picture David

Cheers - hows the bike riding going???

**wharekura** · 17th December 2014, 11:00

Originally Posted by Murray

Cheers - hows the bike riding going???

Bike sold quickly a few months ago - had too many close calls. Miss the summer rides, but not the rain, wind and txting drivers.
My last ride was with Arthur (awa) who also has/had a GV250. If business goes well next year, may reward myself with a new bike for the weekends.

**imdying** · 17th December 2014, 12:27

Originally Posted by Premature Accelerato

This is easy enough to put right. Make an appointment with a local JP (can be found through the local Citizns advice group). Get him to physically watch you stop with feet up for 5 seconds and then get him to sign a written statment to the fact. You can write it up factually but he must sign it and stamp it.

Just because you can, does not mean you did, and nor does it provide evidence of what you did or didn't do at the time of the alleged offence.

Judge: Did you come to a complete stop, balanced with your feet up?

You: Yes

Judge: Did he?

Cop: Nope.

Judge: Judgement for the Crown, fine and costs, have a nice day.

**roogazza** · 17th December 2014, 12:31

Originally Posted by dinosaur

Been riding for 35 plus years - and the bandit is an easy bike to balance - not a problem demonstrating

Its good you are defending it. But 'fuck me' what a waste of time and money for everyone....meaning you and tax payers, feel for ya

**jasonu** · 17th December 2014, 12:49

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Just sayin.

If the Popo spends a day in court he's paid to be there. It'll be the taxpayers time and money that's wasted by the popos, not the Popos.

Fixed it for ya.

**dinosaur** · 17th December 2014, 13:45

Originally Posted by Racing Dave

If the cop was close enough to the rail crossing to see that you checked for trains (despite the alleged not stopping) why didn't you notice him noticing you? Maybe your observation skills need improving and this is the necessary wake-up call.

Just a thought...

Fuck off dick .... I did stop !!! wake up to what

**dinosaur** · 17th December 2014, 13:47

Originally Posted by awayatc

Trains are on rails......
cops are not (unfortunately )
you are supposed to check for trains...
What part is it you don't understand.?

You don't read real well do you - no surprises what you do for a living then

I did stop - I did check for trains
The cop even agreed i had checked for trains - if you had read the original post you may have known that

**dinosaur** · 17th December 2014, 13:52

Originally Posted by imdying

Just because you can, does not mean you did, and nor does it provide evidence of what you did or didn't do at the time of the alleged offence.

Judge: Did you come to a complete stop, balanced with your feet up?

You: Yes

Judge: Did he?

Cop: Nope.

Judge: Judgement for the Crown, fine and costs, have a nice day.

That'll be right - in NZ we have developed a system where if the police say you're guilty then you must be - never mind evidence - guilty until you prove your self innocent

**dinosaur** · 17th December 2014, 13:54

Originally Posted by roogazza

Its good you are defending it. But 'fuck me' what a waste of time and money for everyone....meaning you and tax payers, feel for ya

If i had failed to stop -- then I would just pay it
what pisses me off is the attitude of the police officer - he was just dishing out tickets, arrogant shit
So I will defend it to the high court if I must - matter of principal

**awayatc** · 17th December 2014, 14:09

Originally Posted by dinosaur

You don't read real well do you - no surprises what you do for a living then

I did stop - I did check for trains
The cop even agreed i had checked for trains - if you had read the original post you may have known that

If you would read mine with a tad more patience you would have gotten that I was responding to the post above mine....
racing dave's post.
One is supposed to check for trains, not cops....

if you feel you must get personal however i will happily give you my contact details
see how brave you are in real life.

get your facts straight before you gob off