Flag?

**oldrider** · 5th May 2015, 19:25

Do we want/need a flag thread?

can't seem to find one.

**Akzle** · 5th May 2015, 19:37

Originally Posted by oldrider

Do we want/need a flag thread?

can't seem to find one.

had one.
Legitimise the defacto government? No thanks. Sovereign as whale bro.

**Oakie** · 5th May 2015, 19:40

Well why not.

Me? I think it's a good discussion to have now that the advertising is about to start.. I guess I'd be in favour of a change if something appropriate was offered that reflected modern NZ.

The only thing I feel strongly about though is the argument that we shouldn't change because it's the flag NZ went to war under. Honour the past but don't let it stop you moving forward.

**AllanB** · 5th May 2015, 19:43

Change it - the existing one bores me and does not reflect NZ.

He waits for the Poms to chime in ....... I respond in advance - if the motherland is so great why are you in NZ?

Change it.

**JATZ** · 5th May 2015, 19:46

Originally Posted by AllanB

Change it - the existing one bores me and does not reflect NZ.

He waits for the Poms to chime in ....... I respond in advance - if the motherland is so great why are you in NZ?

Change it.

Naah... Leave it. I like it

**carbonhed** · 5th May 2015, 19:47

Originally Posted by Oakie

Well why not.

Me? I think it's a good discussion to have now that the advertising is about to start.. I guess I'd be in favour of a change if something appropriate was offered that reflected modern NZ.

The only thing I feel strongly about though is the argument that we shouldn't change because it's the flag NZ went to war under. Honour the past but don't let it stop you moving forward.

Likewise.

Looking forward to seeing the new designs.

**Moi** · 5th May 2015, 19:55

Originally Posted by AllanB

Change it - the existing one bores me and does not reflect NZ ... Change it.

So what is so wrong with the present flag?

**mashman** · 5th May 2015, 20:01

I like a nice bluestone finish.

**Voltaire** · 5th May 2015, 20:02

Pick me to be on a Govt committee getting 150k a year, going on junkets overseas to see what others have done in the way of flags.

Guess where this flag is from?

**98tls** · 5th May 2015, 20:07

Twenty millon + so far

Wouldnt that money have been better spent on the children of people that shouldnt have had children in the first place.

Sinking ships still a sinking ship no matter what flags flown as it goes down,that aside wasnt it just the other day thousands gathered in memory of those that believed enough in our current flag to give there lives,a lots changed since maybe some things should stay as there were.

**Kickaha** · 5th May 2015, 20:08

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Guess where this flag is from?

I don't have to guess because I have google

**tigertim20** · 5th May 2015, 20:18

really dont see the point of a flag at all.
current one harks back to the royal family, who I sincerely could not give less of a fuck about.
a new one would never represent / meant something to all 'kiwi's" - given that 'kiwi' is an extremely ambiguous term

i see no point nor meaning to a piece of cotton / whatever with a design on it. I dont like most of the people I meet, so why have a flag to point out some kind of arbitrary camaraderie with them?

**AllanB** · 5th May 2015, 20:32

Ignore the $ - it is a press wankfest to put you off the real subject.

Do you want to change the flag?

The $ involved while high to you and me working week long to feed the family is a mere drop in the Governments 'lets do a survey/investigation paper bla bla bla'.

If we found out how much was really spent on stupid shit we would be horrified to the point of civil unrest. Then the next Government would do exactly the same ...........

So - do you want to change the flag?

**Oakie** · 5th May 2015, 20:45

Originally Posted by 98tls

thousands gathered in memory of those that believed enough in our current flag to give there lives

Now I was one of those who gathered last Saturday morning but I don't think those who we remembered fought because of anything to do with NZ apart from the "Where Britain goes, NZ goes" thing. NZ was at no threat in WW1 apart from a few hundred Germans on Samoa who i believe surrendered without a shot. Similalry, WWII. The Germans weren't coming to invade us but off our boys went to fight them in Europe because Mother-England asked. In WWII Japan was a realistic threat to NZ and many, including my father went and did their bit. My Dad served in the RNZAF but flying out of Singapore, defending the last bastion of the Britsh Empire in South East Asia. The point I make is that they didn't fight defending our flag. They fought defending the Union Jack even though they may have fought under our current flag.

Other part is that for many, especially at the start of WWI, it was just a great adventure, a chance to see the world for free.