Crash statistics

[Hads]

Hi,

Long time no post, I just crunched some numbers on crash statistics, thought you may find it interesting.

References:

http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/...aland-2013.pdf
http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork...-volume/tv034/

		totals				Averages
	Total KM's driven	Injuries/deaths	Death	Serious Injury	Minor Injury	per death	per serious Injury	per minor injury	injured or die
Car,Truck,Bus,Taxi	40021000000	6569	126	795	5780	317,626,984	50,340,881	6,924,048	6,092,404
Motorcycle	351000000	1188	38	345	768	9,236,842	1,017,391	457,031	295,455
						34.4	49.5	15.2	20.6

EDIT: I actually took the deaths and injuries from all other injuries, makes the odds a bit worse, IE 34 x more likely to be killed in a motorcycle accident compared to any other type of accident. (not including pedestrians and bycycles)

[rastuscat]

Interesting things stats, but nothing beats a picture. There are two pages, the second one is actually more detailed.



Amongst other items of note, the road to Akaroa is obvious, but not as bad as one might think.

Still the worst risk is crossing and turning crashes in the built up areas. The intersection which used to be the QE2/Marshland Roundabout really sticks out. That's why the money was spent to change it to lights.

Stats are for 2010 to 2014, from memory.

[Scuba_Steve]

Hey look there's me, I'm a stat! Glad to have done my part... Can't believe I only died 38 times tho, I'm sure it was more

[rastuscat]

Hey look there's me, I'm a stat! Glad to have done my part... Can't believe I only died 38 times tho, I'm sure it was more

Cheers for your effort Skoober. Saves us having to die to keep the numbers up.

[caspernz]

The stats sure as hell are sobering.

The main question would be what does one do with them?

I mean, how exactly does one convince those who are risk tolerant to become a little more risk averse?

[rastuscat]

The stats sure as hell are sobering.

The main question would be what does one do with them?

I mean, how exactly does one convince those who are risk tolerant to become a little more risk averse?

And that, McCoy, is the zillion dollar question.

Those who accept the risk and mitigate it are less likely to be the risk.

Those who are so shit hot and who get to blame everyone else for their issues don't accept the risk (it doesn't apply to them, see), so don't see a need to allow for it.

It's a bit like the voluntary training conundrum. Those who seek out training already have expressed a safety mentality. Those who don't need training are often those who need it most.

[caspernz]

And that, McCoy, is the zillion dollar question.

Those who accept the risk and mitigate it are less likely to be the risk.

Those who are so shit hot and who get to blame everyone else for their issues don't accept the risk (it doesn't apply to them, see), so don't see a need to allow for it.

It's a bit like the voluntary training conundrum. Those who seek out training already have expressed a safety mentality. Those who don't need training are often those who need it most.

Well yeah RTC it was pretty much a rhetorical question I posed of course. The one thing I try and do is to lead by example when out and about, whether this be on 2, 4 or lots more wheels.

[Scuba_Steve]

Cheers for your effort Skoober. Saves us having to die to keep the numbers up.

Just doing my bit for the community (this does count as community service, right?)

[Hads]

These haven't put me off riding, however what I found really interesting is 2/3 of the accidents are caused by the motorbike, additionally the most common reason is loss of control on a right hand turn. For that year at least.

[swbarnett]

I suspect that the real story is not as bad as these statistics make it look. What would really be of interest is what these figures would look like between motorcycles and cars.

I can believe that we are way more at risk than truck drivers. But so are car drivers. The fact that all other road users are lumped together very much clouds the results and essentially renders any analysis of the quoted reports meaningless. Which, I guess, was the intent of the authors - they were "sound men" in the words of Humphrey Appleby.

[Hads]

It would be easy enough to break it down to just cars. I just combined them together because I was comparing against all road users

[Hads]

Number of KM's driven isn't classified quite the same as the crash stats so I have guessed at a couple of things, but see the image below for comparison against passenger cars. Do note this doesn't include passengers, as often motorcycles don't have passengers.

[Erelyes]

It would be easy enough to break it down to just cars. I just combined them together because I was comparing against all road users

Would make sense to me and I'd be interested to see just a car vs bike comparison. Truck drivers are thoroughly trained and monitored and do very high kms, so do skew the view. Car drivers get their licence and typically don't train for another decade or two, and do lower kms.

[Erelyes]

Do note this doesn't include passengers, as often motorcycles don't have passengers.

Ooof. Don't agree with that. Two people travelling by bike may mean two motorcycles, and only one crashes and becomes a stat (or both do, and both do). Passengers should be included.

[Banditbandit]

I mean, how exactly does one convince those who are risk tolerant to become a little more risk averse?

Some of us ride because it is an increased risk over car usage ... we are risk takers ...

Also, some of us ride because of pure rebellion - and riding in an illegal manner (speed mainly) and what people assume is an unsafe manner IS the rebellious act ..

How do you make us more risk averse??? You can't ...