What's good learner bike?

[croozn]

hi,
new to fourm take it easy on me
looking at getting my bike licence in a few weeks or maybe next week. i have a rarotongan motorbike licence from when i went on holiday there earlier in the year,
now since i have this i can skip the learner and restricted licences........(all i need to do to obtain my NZ full is sit the theory test and pratical test) but in saying that i am a new rider, apart from riding trail/farm bike down at the river a few years ago,
i am wanting to get experience first out on the road before getting a big bike, i am looking at somthing between a 250cc - 1000cc nothing over 1000cc yet.
im wondering if a 250cc will be gutless with a passenger (My Wife)? let me know if im wrong. looking at this bike below. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-889637189.htm

or what other bikes should i be looking at,

cheers,

[Maha]

That bike would be perfect for yourself to learn on, as for the pillion question? Has your wife been a pillion on a road bike before? If not, best you get some road time by yourself for a while and then do a few short trips with your wife, to get used to the feeling of having some on the bike with you. A pillion can determine how the bike performs on the road if they have not been there prior, and not in a good way.

One thing I will say is, if you intend to ride with a pillion in the future, the bike you are looking at will not be overly sufficient for two-up riding, fine at first, but as time goes on you’ll figure it out.

The first time I rode with a pillion, I owned a 600 sports bike but soon wanted something bigger, I traded up to a 955 Sprint, a pleasure to ride with a pillion compared to the 600.

Keep in mind that your wife is precious cargo.

NB: My wife has been around bikes longer than I have and the first time she rode pillion she adjusted her position about 5 kms into the trip, it unsettled the bike a bit and felt really weird, when we stopped, she said she had done that on purpose so that I knew what it felt like when a pillion moves.

[The End]

I'm sure you will get plenty of responses about why or why you shouldn't buy a Hyosung.

Check out this thread on the Hyosung forums from when I was looking at purchasing the 650cc version of what you are looking at:

http://korider.com/index.php?topic=25770

Ultimately, I chose something else as I needed something reliable and the mixed reviews of the Hyosung motorcycles put me off.

A 250 will handle two people (dependant on their weight ) however you may as well take advantage of a full license and get a mid-ranged size bike.

[mossy1200]

With the excessive prices of lams bikes it would be cheaper to take a Cook Island holiday and get a full licence plus a non lams bike when you return if this loop hole still applies.

[Oakie]

i have a rarotongan motorbike licence from when i went on holiday there earlier in the year,

Oh. I thought they'd closed that loophole.

Don't be in too much of a hurry to get someone important on the pillion seat. Two up is a different ball game. Just spend as much time as you can learning and practicing so we can enjoy your contributions to this forum for many years.

[FJRider]

Oh. I thought they'd closed that loophole.

I thought they had too ... I just hope the OP checked the current web page in this regard.

Don't be in too much of a hurry to get someone important on the pillion seat. Two up is a different ball game. Just spend as much time as you can learning and practicing so we can enjoy your contributions to this forum for many years.

If the said loophole exists ... getting on a non-LAM's bike (up to 1000cc)... with only scooter experience on roads with a 40 km/hr (max) speed limits .. with your dearly beloved on the pillion seat ... what could possibly go wrong .. ???

[croozn]

I thought they had too ... I just hope the OP checked the current web page in this regard.




If the said loophole exists ... getting on a non-LAM's bike (up to 1000cc)... with only scooter experience on roads with a 40 km/hr (max) speed limits .. with your dearly beloved on the pillion seat ... what could possibly go wrong .. ???

thanks guys, yea i might look at getting a bigger bike than a 250cc. will have lots of ride time bymyself first.

this loop hole still exists (asked about it at AA) but u still have to do theory and pratical to get ur NZ full.
not too sure what licence i will get if i just do the theory then pratice for a while before i do the pratical.

(from not one having experience on motorbikes can get a full NZ in a matter of months if only they have a cook island licence)

i can rent a 250cc bike if i have to use a 250 for the pratical test.

if any one can tell me what is a good bike that isnt too big cc wise to learn on dont want to buy a 250 then a few months later buy a bigger bike,

thanks

[FJRider]

this loop hole still exists (asked about it at AA) but u still have to do theory and pratical to get ur NZ full.

You have to PASS both theory and practical ... to get NZ full license.

You pay the required fee FIRST ... and then TRY ... Good luck ..

[Moi]

... this loop hole still exists (asked about it at AA) but u still have to do theory and practical to get your NZ full.
not too sure what licence I will get if I just do the theory then practise for a while before I do the practical ...

If this is the case then it makes a complete mockery of the CBTA and the initiatives to improve rider skills...

Perhaps Simon Bridges could earn his weekly salary by sorting this out pronto!

[Erelyes]

SV650 would be a fair choice for a 'first bike bike' that has more than a saucer-sized pillion seat. Either naked or semi-faired version. I'd suggest you buy mine if you were in the South Island.

[FJRider]

If this is the case then it makes a complete mockery of the CBTA and the initiatives to improve rider skills...

WHY ... ?????


CBTA is not the only method to obtain a full (and totally legal) Motorcycle License in NZ.

The Parole system makes a mockery of the justice system ( in MY opinion ) I'd (personally) prefer changes made THERE first ...

[croozn]

You have to PASS both theory and practical ... to get NZ full license.

You pay the required fee FIRST ... and then TRY ... Good luck ..

yes i realise that you need to pass both for full NZ
but if i just do the theory what licence type would i get learner or restricted) to get some practice before i do the pratical test

[Moi]

... CBTA is not the only method to obtain a full (and totally legal) Motorcycle License in NZ ...

Whether you approve of or not approve of the CBTA or any other licencing system is not the point, the point is allowing this loophole to continue to exist...

[croozn]

Whether you approve of or not approve of the CBTA or any other licencing system is not the point, the point is allowing this loophole to continue to exist...

in my case its not a bad loop hole

[FJRider]

yes i realise that you need to pass both for full NZ
but if i just do the theory what licence type would i get learner or restricted) to get some practice before i do the pratical test

If you just pass the theory ... you get .... NOTHING ... simple ... eh .. !!!