Motorcycle awareness

[Swoop]

No you can't, you can't use a BUS ONLY LANE, I think you can use a BUS LANE (motorbikes and bicycles) and definitely use a T2 or T3 lanes (buses, Motorbikes, Bicycles and vehicles with 2 or 3 occupants).

For instance you can't turn left (ie. going south) off Esmonde Rd coming from Takapuna onto the BUS ONLY LANE which enters the motorway just before the normal vehicle entry lane.

All of the bus lanes around Auckland are for bike use as well - these are mainly painted green. The motorway lanes are a grey area since they do not "specifically exclude" motorcycle use, as required by the law.

[Hawkeye]

Yes we can around Auckland. Do some reading.

And all of these comments just go to show that it is not clear cut, black and white.

The most obviously failing in the whole system is there are a different set of road codes for different vehicles FFS.

'You don't ride a bike so I don't need to know the rules for bikes' mentality of the system.

If you drive/ride, you should know the rules for ALL road users not just for the vehicle you going to use. Until cager's understand our rules as well as theirs, there will always be this debate.

Unless of course that has now been changed. Been a while since I took my test

[Akzle]

If you drive/ride, you should know the rules for ALL road users not just for the vehicle you going to use. Until cager's understand our rules as well as theirs, there will always be this debate.

Unless of course that has now been changed. Been a while since I took my test

right. so, you're au fait with the rules for 50max trucks? tracks and rollers? HT? oversize? forkhoists? horses? because if you weren't, that would be fucking hypocritical.



((i'm fully in agreeance, but i take it two steps further))

[Pontiac_Tonz]

Yes we can around Auckland. Do some reading.

Yeesh...

From the road code:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ns/main-types/

(Picture of bus) then the word "ONLY"
DESCRIPTION: Bus lane that can only
be used by buses

(Picture of bus) then the word "LANE"
DESCRIPTION: Bus lane that can also
be used by cycles,
motorcycles, mopeds

[TheDemonLord]

right. so, you're au fait with the rules for 50max trucks? tracks and rollers? HT? oversize? forkhoists? horses?

Yep - they all have to Give way to Demon Lords.

[Swoop]

From the road code:

This topic has been done to death on here. However, once again...
The road code is an interpretation of the law. The law states that "Unles Specifically Excluded", so a sign can say "Kangaroos only" on it and still mean nothing.
Have you seen those little signs at the entrance to the motorway which have a pedestrian with a red circle and bar crossing over? That is a "specific exclusion" sign.

[caspernz]

right. so, you're au fait with the rules for 50max trucks? tracks and rollers? HT? oversize? forkhoists? horses? because if you weren't, that would be fucking hypocritical.



((i'm fully in agreeance, but i take it two steps further))

Yep - they all have to Give way to Demon Lords.

C'mon now, there's the Road Code and the Code of the Road. Most of us truckers just default to Might is Right when in doubt as to the exactitude of the wording of anything in the Road Code thingamajig...

[Tazz]

The bus lane use in Auckland is very clear cut khants. That carry on comes under council bylaws I believe, not general national road laws (for lack of the correct terms).

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/b...riority-lanes/

Bikes = OK except for the one part mentioned in that link, which I'm guessing is pictured on the page as being the bus lanes physically separated from the normal transit lanes.

And all of these comments just go to show that it is not clear cut, black and white.

Yeesh...

From the road code:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ns/main-types/

(Picture of bus) then the word "ONLY"
DESCRIPTION: Bus lane that can only
be used by buses

(Picture of bus) then the word "LANE"
DESCRIPTION: Bus lane that can also
be used by cycles,
motorcycles, mopeds

This topic has been done to death on here. However, once again...

For instance you can't turn left (ie. going south) off Esmonde Rd coming from Takapuna onto the BUS ONLY LANE which enters the motorway just before the normal vehicle entry lane.

[FJRider]

If you drive/ride, you should know the rules for ALL road users not just for the vehicle you going to use. Until cager's understand our rules as well as theirs, there will always be this debate.

Knowing their RULES is unimportant ....


Knowing/understanding their capabilities (or lack thereof) ... is another thing entirely ...