Lost motorhome

**Daffyd** · 7th November 2015, 00:56

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.

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**nzspokes** · 7th November 2015, 05:40

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

**ruaphu** · 7th November 2015, 07:36

Yep what he said and try asking the various caravan/camper clubs to see if they flick on their sites, fb pages etc.

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**oldrider** · 7th November 2015, 09:14

Originally Posted by Daffyd

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.

G'day Daffyd - you say the guy lived in Oamaru - I will keep an eye out around the Waitaki Lakes area in case he has come up here.

PM me the details of where he lived in Oamaru etc and I will see what I can snif out for you. Cheers, John.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 7th November 2015, 10:57

Originally Posted by Daffyd

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.

Talk to the po po. Your vehicle has been stolen.

What takes it out of the realm of a "failed business deal" and into the arena of theft is the whole "He knew he owed me money and he flitted with the vehicle" aspect.

Why the fuck do people do this shit without talking to a lawyer? Fucksakes. Things you could and should have done: A sale and purchase agreement incorporating terms on which the loan would be made, the interest payable, and reserving title until you are paid in full. PLUS INCORPORATING A RIGHT TO CREATE A CHARGE ON THE PPSR. That way anyone doing due diligence on it when he on-sells it sees the charge and says "I ain't payin till thats cleared".

Christ on a crutch people $350 in lawyers fees and you wouldnt be sitting there scratching your balls wondering what happened to your $60k investment.

All is probably not lost (he cannot give clear title to something he does not own) and the vehicle is too big to disappear. Talk about make your life harder than it needs to be though.

I will search the PPSR on Monday for you and see if anything hits. Do you know the VIN number? PM me.

**jasonu** · 7th November 2015, 10:58

Originally Posted by nzspokes

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

and post the name of the guy too.

**Berries** · 7th November 2015, 11:15

Check out number 46, is that it ?

**Daffyd** · 7th November 2015, 11:43

Originally Posted by nzspokes

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

It is listed as stolen.

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Talk to the po po. Your vehicle has been stolen.

What takes it out of the realm of a "failed business deal" and into the arena of theft is the whole "He knew he owed me money and he flitted with the vehicle" aspect.

Why the fuck do people do this shit without talking to a lawyer? Fucksakes. Things you could and should have done: A sale and purchase agreement incorporating terms on which the loan would be made, the interest payable, and reserving title until you are paid in full. PLUS INCORPORATING A RIGHT TO CREATE A CHARGE ON THE PPSR. That way anyone doing due diligence on it when he on-sells it sees the charge and says "I ain't payin till thats cleared".

Christ on a crutch people $350 in lawyers fees and you wouldnt be sitting there scratching your balls wondering what happened to your $60k investment.

All is probably not lost (he cannot give clear title to something he does not own) and the vehicle is too big to disappear. Talk about make your life harder than it needs to be though.

I will search the PPSR on Monday for you and see if anything hits. Do you know the VIN number? PM me.

All that was done... My brother is a lawyer and he always dots the i's and crosses the t's. He drew up the agreement and is working with the police on this.

Originally Posted by jasonu

and post the name of the guy too.

The guy's name is Rangi Senior Hepi.

**Daffyd** · 7th November 2015, 11:48

Originally Posted by nzspokes

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

It is on Facebook. (See my wall, 'David Galt').

**onearmedbandit** · 7th November 2015, 12:17

Doesn't show up on your page, unless you're a 'friend' I'm guessing.

**Reckless** · 7th November 2015, 12:20

Originally Posted by Daffyd

Rangi.

Damn Rangi strikes again

Sorry mate just couldnt resist Hope you get it back.

**Daffyd** · 7th November 2015, 12:28

Originally Posted by Reckless

Damn Rangi strikes again

Funny you should say that... I had an uneasy feeling at the start, but initially he was very good. He took a hiatus over last Xmas so he could take his dying wife back to the tribal area somewhere around Taupo, then resumed payments, (actually paying more weekly to cover the non-payment period. Then, three months later... zilch!