Sick of being ripped off

[jasonu]

Doesnt sound like you have any reason to stay here so why dont you fuck off and leave all that "piss poor food quality" to us that appreciate the best food in the world.

fuckin whining cunt

Best food in the world...That's a good one:


except for snapper that is.

and pies from BP

[mossy1200]

There have been similar conversations on KB previously. Blue Wing almost always price new models too high. After some months, or perhaps a year, they drop the price a few thousand which pisses off everybody who already bought one. (There are threads here about that too.) It's a totally witless business model, but they persist. I get the impression they are really only interested in selling farm bikes.

I hate "Australasian agents" they are usually based in Sydney and the couldn't care less about New Zealand. Sometimes they don't even bother to answer enquiries. For Blue Wing I'd make an exception, if they went bung and we got an Australasian agent it would almost have to be an improvement.

I paid $28500 for a SP1 and 6months later they were $19995.
Never buying a new Honda again.
Possibly had 8 new bikes since then though.

[BuzzardNZ]

Yeah I know, low wages and extremely high prices. Piss poor food quality at astronomical prices (I ate like in king in the UK and Europe for a fraction of the price) .

Why don't you fuck off back there then!

[skippa1]

Best food in the world...That's a good one:


except for snapper that is.

and pies from BP

True story
nz beef and lamb
nz scallops
bluff oysters
crayfish
west coast whitebait
central otago cherries and apricots
nelson berries
pavalova
paua
stewart island blue cod
........

[Moi]

So what does this mean? - you're over 50 years old and you came here as a child with your family?

Didn't notice your responses at the end of my questions...

Originally Posted by Moi - see earlier post
Statements like this always raise two questions in my mind:

1. How long have you been here? 41 years, you? - I was born here over 60 years ago...

2. Why did you move here? My parents brought me to NZ. I ate like a king when on HOLIDAY in the UK/ Europe.
On "HOLIDAY" in the UK/Europe is a little different to "LIVING" in the UK/Europe...

Must start taking my anti-cynic pills again...

[Moi]

True story
nz beef and lamb
nz scallops
bluff oysters
crayfish
west coast whitebait
central otago cherries and apricots
nelson berries
pavalova
paua
stewart island blue cod
........

plus Vogel's
Whittaker's
flounder

[Big Dog]

Within the last 3 years I bought a house on a single income with dependents.
It may not be in the condition in want or where I want but nothing valuable comes without sacrifice.

True, I can't afford to live in the same city I work... but given time and diligence that will change.

Most of the can't be dunning I hear is from those who won't (not can't) give up their second latté for the day and have to have the latest toys.

The best advice I have ever had was: the time to own a nice car is when you could upgrade your house without sacrifice.

Sent from Tapatalk. DYAC

[jim.cox]

and pies from BP

Jimmy's Mince and Cheese for the win

[Ocean1]

Yep, better double up on the pills. I have lived here longer than half the population and I didn't move to NZ out of personal choice. My personal opinion in New Zealand has great scenery and nature (somewhat spoiled in recent years by dairy farming), extremely poor consumer prices, atrocious education, high taxes and an economy sliding into overall poverty. I have watched as owning a family home has gone from being possible with one wage earner, to two wage earners, to not possible on two full time wages. I see the commerce commission not prevent monopolies and duopolies but actively allow them. Every year companies want more profit while supplying the same quantity of goods (or less), all the while making sure their employees don't get more than a 2% pay rise. And after all the money has been tapped out of the buying public then what? We stop buying insurance, stop buying meat and dairy because it is just too expensive. And so greed leads to economic collapse. It is already happening.

And yet.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-brexit-blues

“a rugby team that actually plays rugby” and “affordable houses and no traffic”

Maybe you should go live there again, to recalibrate your runaway expectations.



Oh, but yes, bike prices are a rip-off, and in the absence of visible culprits I'm blaming the distributors. Why not take advantage? Set up a barely-second-hand bike import business, looks to be a few doing all right out of it.

[Ocean1]

I paid $28500 for a SP1 and 6months later they were $19995.
Never buying a new Honda again.
Possibly had 8 new bikes since then though.

Now why, for the love of god don't you, (and all of the other like-minded souls) fire off a wee missive to Honda Inc pointing out exactly that?

Complaining don't come naturally to most Kiwis, but there's a time and place...

[mossy1200]

Now why, for the love of god don't you, (and all of the other like-minded souls) fire off a wee missive to Honda Inc pointing out exactly that?

Complaining don't come naturally to most Kiwis, but there's a time and place...

Yep sent Blue Wing the story of my disappointing financial position and requested a partial refund. Even included photos of it in custom Castrol Edwards paint job with added bling.
Got a letter back complementing me on how nice my bike looked and to enjoy riding it.

[russd7]

True story
nz beef and lamb
nz scallops
bluff oysters
crayfish
west coast whitebait
central otago cherries and apricots
nelson berries
pavalova
paua
stewart island blue cod
........

what the fuck ya still doin in the naki then, most the best stuff is down here. i learnt that way back in the eighties

[russd7]

Jimmy's Mince and Cheese for the win

mmmm but a jimmies mutton pie at the factory in roxborough is bloody awesome as well

[skippa1]

what the fuck ya still doin in the naki then, most the best stuff is down here. i learnt that way back in the eighties

Like the produce, dont want to live there. Got family there, Chathams too, can get what I want when I want

[OddDuck]

Agree that NZ's got a big problem with rip off pricing and low wages for ordinary people. It's also got a problem where a lot of employers can't get staff for basic jobs. Housing market's completely out of control. We've also got a corporate culture of churning managers - they only stay in one place for a few years, make changes, pad out their CV's, leave dysfunction behind. Our economy naturally moves to monopolies or stable duopolies which then extort the market for every buck they can get.

We've been mismanaged politically for a long time.

Unfortunately Kiwi's just love to fight each other, but we're pretty bad at supporting each other... anyone proposing change had better be prepared to fight all comers, and be prepared to do it alone.

That said, I've got a few ideas:

Ban exclusive supply contracts. I'm sure that the big boys in the food and groceries trades are using these to make startup competition impossible... how can you run an alternative supermarket chain if nobody is allowed to supply you?

Limit company premises geographically. There's a head office, then there's a radius around them (say 100 - 500 km's). Outside that radius, they can't own, lease, rent, whatever... Goods can be sold outside radius of course. The idea here is to have a measureable, enforceable limit to monopolies.

No company can own another company. If they do buy one, assets transfer to the purchaser name, branding has to change to the purchaser's. Geographic limit still applies, assets outside the radius simply can't be bought in the first place.

Place a time limit on how quickly shares / derivatives / bonds etc can be sold after purchase... and make illegal the practise of selling short, ie selling it before you actually own it.

Have a good long look at the Universal Basic Income idea... and dump the dole. Keep sickness benefits. UBI to cover basic clothing, food, rent, always comes in no matter what, doesn't have a stand down period if you walk off a shit job, doesn't get clipped or reduced if you get a starter job, lets people move off the dole mentality into a more and better work means a better life mentality.

Overseas (non-citizen, non-resident) property buyers allowed to build brand new homes only (like Australia).

Tax vacant properties. Not sure how detected and enforced or how much, but land banking has got to stop.

Link immigration allowed to housing availability.

Require a minimum period of time working in a company before being allowed to enter a managerial role.

Introduce a Tobin tax: a percentage on every purely financial transaction, ie taking out a loan, purchasing investments... anything where it's money buying money.

Reduce GST. Better: eliminate it.

Right, got a few things to do, have to move on... Interested to hear what people think.