MotoGP 2024

[BMWST?]

I can answer some of it. The factory - Michelin - mandate a minimum pressure which is monitored by a sensor in the rim. You're allowed a certain no of laps under the minimum before it incurs a penalty. The teams set the start pressure such that once warmed it should be above the minimum. Getting it above is predicated on being able to load the tyre enough to raise it's temp and thus pressure. If it's a cold day or changeable conditions you may not be able to get it warm enough.
This seems to be what's happened here.
It's complicated by the tyre performance falling off when the pressure goes too high. The teams will always try to run the tyres at the lowest pressure possible as this gives the best performance and rider feedback.

The minimum pressure set by Michelin is what they're happy to see the tyre used at. The aero used now is generating quite high downforce and Michelin is worried that overloading a tyre which is not up to pressure could see it come off the rim.

My own opinion is that they could safely drop the minimum a tad - but I'm not a tyre engineer, just a user.

I thought the whole tyre pressure thing was bought about by some sort of incident maybe at an early test day.It maybe involved one of the bigger riders.Just fishing here,as i say i cant remember what instigated it all

[SaferRides]

Acosta has had a big crash at Turn 7 during warmup. He's OK but the bike and that air fence will need some work. Sounds like another damp patch.

Should they be racing if damp patches keep appearing like this?

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[iYRe]

Well bugger me if that wasnt the best race of MotoGP for a long long time.

MM - "It doesnt matter what happened in the past, I will always push to the end".
PB - "You know when fighting with Mark you have to always be aggressive ... I really enjoyed it"

[pritch]

by all means offer different rubber but let the engineers sort pressures surely ???

That didn't work. The riders want the best performance and will operate the tyres at pressures Michelin consider unsafe which is why the current rule exists.

[roogazza]

That didn't work. The riders want the best performance and will operate the tyres at pressures Michelin consider unsafe which is why the current rule exists.

Maybe give it back to Bridgestone, or open it up to all Tyre makers, something has to change.
The Sport is suffering from rules.
I copied BSB Sunday interested to see how that is ?

Sad to say for someone like me who's followed GP's from about 1966 !
I followed Read,Ivy and Hailwood and a host of others.
Even had the good fortune to meet Mike the Bike, at a piss up in CHCH at the end of Marlboro Series (I think about 77' ?).
Maybe this modern world is too much for me ? lol.

Anyway off for a fang tomoro for sure,weather is great. (I'll win that GP !!!!!).

[Grumph]

Luckily club level is still pretty open as regards rules.

The most heavily regulated motorsport would be Karts. If it isn't in the book you can't do it. Period.

I used to run into a mate - now dead - who was NZ Fed President and for a while Oceania Pres too.
I always gave him a hard time about how tight the Kart regs were - but after doing it once I never again quoted
an area they hadn't touched. 6 months after I mentioned it, it was a closed loophole.

[SaferRides]

Well bugger me if that wasnt the best race of MotoGP for a long long time.

MM - "It doesnt matter what happened in the past, I will always push to the end".
PB - "You know when fighting with Mark you have to always be aggressive ... I really enjoyed it"

MM had his pressures set for leading the race and couldn't follow close for very long. It looked like he'd dropped behind slightly when Bagnaia put in the fastest lap of the race and was too far behind at the start of the final lap.

I'm sure MM wanted the win, but a 2nd in his 4th race on a Ducati is good progress. Good to see Bez is back!

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[BMWST?]

MM had his pressures set for leading the race and couldn't follow close for very long. It looks like he'd dropped behind slightly when Bagnaia put in a fast lap, and was too far behind at the start of the final lap.

I'm sure MM wanted the win, but a 2nd in his 4th race on a Ducati is good progress. Good to see Bez is back!

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not only that but Bagnaia put in the fastest lap of the whole race!

[SaferRides]

not only that but Bagnaia put in the fastest lap of the whole race!

True, I've corrected my post!

The GPOne website, which is Italian, has an interview with Gigi Dall'igna after each race. The translation to English isn't always the best, but it's worth a read: https://m.gpone.com/en/2024/04/28/mo...d=1&refresh_ce

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[iYRe]

not only that but Bagnaia put in the fastest lap of the whole race!

I think that he actually broke the lap record even (by .3 of a sec or something), and MM was only about .1 slower and would have also broken the lap record - this is from memory, it might have been the the race lap but the same applies, MM would have broken it too. That's fast.

On Crash.net they were pointing out that MM was probably being a little conservative because he couldnt afford another crash, and also he seems to be able to go faster than the other Duc's later in the race when his tyres are a bit more worn (they said)

[pritch]

Oxley has made an interesting comment. Apparently Michelin have brought tyres to the test. Oxley feels though that the teams will prioritise their own new parts and may treat the tyres as an afterthought.

[BMWST?]

I think that he actually broke the lap record even (by .3 of a sec or something), and MM was only about .1 slower and would have also broken the lap record - this is from memory, it might have been the the race lap but the same applies, MM would have broken it too. That's fast.

On Crash.net they were pointing out that MM was probably being a little conservative because he couldnt afford another crash, and also he seems to be able to go faster than the other Duc's later in the race when his tyres are a bit more worn (they said)

Well he certainly put in a few laps much faster then Bagnaia when he caught him. He doesnt really seem to block pass. If did he may have been able to get away

[BMWST?]

I think that he actually broke the lap record even (by .3 of a sec or something), and MM was only about .1 slower and would have also broken the lap record - this is from memory, it might have been the the race lap but the same applies, MM would have broken it too. That's fast.

On Crash.net they were pointing out that MM was probably being a little conservative because he couldnt afford another crash, and also he seems to be able to go faster than the other Duc's later in the race when his tyres are a bit more worn (they said)

on the motogp site under results and standings they have amazing analysis and results tables. Have a look,amazing stats

[iYRe]

on the motogp site under results and standings they have amazing analysis and results tables. Have a look,amazing stats

Thanks, I will.

Found this from Matt Oxley:

Runner-up Marc Márquez had more work to do than winner Pecco Bagnaia. The brake problem that caused Márquez’s COTA crash was still there at Jerez, but less so. Basically, he brakes more aggressively than other Ducati riders, so he’s frying the brakes and his crew are fighting to keep brake temperature under control.

“We need to be careful at the next races to get the brakes into the temperature range I like,” he says.

Link is here: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...-indycar-aero/

[F5 Dave]

Ahh. Dammit. I got the email about that but I've read too many articles within a month. Not going to buy a subscription as the rest is for car stuff I won't even skim read.