Tyre choice for adventure riding? (Mixing road and off-road)

**RGVforme** · 31st December 2015, 17:04

Originally Posted by Tazz

Aww go on, I'll hold your beer!

I'm a cheap date and like a bit of wind on the ole whistle so any excuse

Happy New Year man!

You too Tazz mate....

**RMOTO** · 18th February 2016, 10:10

Many interesting photos come through with the RemoteMoto tyre reviews but this review photo from NickW on the Heidenau K60 Scout is a classic!! Great review and great photo NickW

Review link: Heidenau K60 Scout

**Oscar** · 18th February 2016, 10:40

Interesting, but there is an inherent problem with tyre reviews like these (and it is no reflection on the great website) - it depends on what the writers definition of expressions like "off road" are, and also the bike it's being used on.

**RGVforme** · 18th February 2016, 12:33

Originally Posted by Oscar

Interesting, but there is an inherent problem with tyre reviews like these (and it is no reflection on the great website) - it depends on what the writers definition of expressions like "off road" are, and also the bike it's being used on.

And the type of rider they are and the exp they have had ect.

Perhaps if they untied that cat they might find the tyre a bit more quiet on the road lol.

**RMOTO** · 18th February 2016, 13:16

Originally Posted by Oscar

Interesting, but there is an inherent problem with tyre reviews like these (and it is no reflection on the great website) - it depends on what the writers definition of expressions like "off road" are, and also the bike it's being used on.

Hi Oscar, you have isolated two key variables that presented a significant challenge when developing the RemoteMoto tyre reviewer.

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**pete-blen** · 26th February 2016, 22:11

Michelin new version of the big block knobbly....

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-products...l-sport-tires/

**vegeman** · 27th February 2016, 09:41

Originally Posted by pete-blen

Michelin new version of the big block knobbly....

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-products...l-sport-tires/

Rider, bike power, bike weight and terrain all are factors for sure, and I think we know that. I rode a Karoo 3 in aussie on GS1200 and it went through mud, sand, hard pack rock etc and I was impressed, so when back in NZ...I put one on my 690 as a tyre generally for slabbing it and gravel stuff. The tyre is fine on the road and great in the corners, but off road and especially gravel...I hate it with a passion. Under acceleration it struggles to hook up, and under fast breaking into corners it's even worse as it slides out far more than I expected...I think this is where the chevron-esk pattern isn't working as you are effectiveyl expecting to work in the opposite direction.

I'm currently thrashing the shit out of it, so I can bin it, and about to go back to my MT21 as well as the Mitas E09....BUT now seeing this wild, I might check it. One thing for sure, 690 needs knobs...well for the way I like to ride

**Woodman** · 27th February 2016, 10:53

Originally Posted by vegeman

Rider, bike power, bike weight and terrain all are factors for sure, and I think we know that. I rode a Karoo 3 in aussie on GS1200 and it went through mud, sand, hard pack rock etc and I was impressed, so when back in NZ...I put one on my 690 as a tyre generally for slabbing it and gravel stuff. The tyre is fine on the road and great in the corners, but off road and especially gravel...I hate it with a passion. Under acceleration it struggles to hook up, and under fast breaking into corners it's even worse as it slides out far more than I expected...I think this is where the chevron-esk pattern isn't working as you are effectiveyl expecting to work in the opposite direction.

I'm currently thrashing the shit out of it, so I can bin it, and about to go back to my MT21 as well as the Mitas E09....BUT now seeing this wild, I might check it. One thing for sure, 690 needs knobs...well for the way I like to ride

Never tried a karoo3 rear, but I really really rate the front. Ran it at 15psi for the dustybutt last weekend and it was even better, even on the road.

**cold comfort** · 27th February 2016, 21:09

Happy with the MotoZ Tractionator's on my 690 so far. Haven't tried them in the wet though.

**Tazz** · 28th February 2016, 10:44

Cycletreads seem to be getting out of the Kendas

For that matter their whole range of road legal knobblies seems to be a bit lacking at the minute.

**Saarg** · 28th February 2016, 10:50

Has anyone had the hidenau k60 scouts sand/mud? I've got 3000k on mine so far and there are great, factory claims 13000k rear 15000k front, wet or dry, mud & sand

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**Woodman** · 28th February 2016, 11:43

Originally Posted by Saarg

Has anyone had the hidenau k60 scouts sand/mud? I've got 3000k on mine so far and there are great, factory claims 13000k rear 15000k front, wet or dry, mud & sand

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On my second k60 scout rear. First one would have got to 6000kms just. Happy with that. Now my rear of choice.

**Saarg** · 28th February 2016, 13:44

Originally Posted by Woodman

On my second k60 scout rear. First one would have got to 6000kms just. Happy with that. Now my rear of choice.

NICE, how much off Tarmac? I've done about 800k so far

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**Woodman** · 28th February 2016, 13:53

Originally Posted by Saarg

NICE, how much off Tarmac? I've done about 800k so far

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Probly 60/40 Tarmac. My new one was put on just prior to the dustybutt and has now done exactly 3000kms and isn't quite half worn so should be the same by the looks of it. Was running a lot lower pressures this time though.

**Saarg** · 28th February 2016, 20:11

Originally Posted by Woodman

Probly 60/40 Tarmac. My new one was put on just prior to the dustybutt and has now done exactly 3000kms and isn't quite half worn so should be the same by the looks of it. Was running a lot lower pressures this time though.

Well worth the penny spent I think
I'm running 38psi rear & 32 front. Enough twitch on metal roads for the way I ride, any higher and it feels like I'm on ice

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